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Originally posted by Alfie1
reply to post by comprehension
You are just giving me meaningless speculation and your personal incredulity. After 10 years plus you must have something verifiable surely.
lol You keep saying that.Yeah,I get it.Dutch this,Dutch that..I get it!But it also says plainly Fresh Kills!
Originally posted by Alfie1
reply to post by CaptChaos
I pointed out your error about where the plane hit the Pentagon on page 2 and gave you the facts but you still ignore it and re-post the same garbage.
Most of the casualties were Navy specialists in the Navy Command Centre. They had nothing to do with finance.The Army bookeepers killed were working on Army statements for FY 2001 as set out in the March 2002 DoD document I linked you to.
Instead of just repeating something off some conspiracy site please cite evidence for what you are alleging.
Originally posted by VitriolAndAngst
And Thomas Kean, the Chairman of the 9/11 Commission, said they were "set up to fail"
LINK
IF it was so obvious that this was simply a terrorist act by Al Qaeda, and the CIA, Pentagon or Bush administration didn't HELP THEM -- then why the railroading of the investigation?
Originally posted by CaptChaos
Originally posted by Alfie1
reply to post by CaptChaos
I pointed out your error about where the plane hit the Pentagon on page 2 and gave you the facts but you still ignore it and re-post the same garbage.
Most of the casualties were Navy specialists in the Navy Command Centre. They had nothing to do with finance.The Army bookeepers killed were working on Army statements for FY 2001 as set out in the March 2002 DoD document I linked you to.
Instead of just repeating something off some conspiracy site please cite evidence for what you are alleging.
Man, if it wasn't such a serious subject, you would be a laugh riot! Your idea of "evidence" is papers put out a year after the fact, by the conspirators involved?
Can you imagine any court of law where that would fly? "Your honor, may we present this week at a glance diary written by the defendant, clearly stating that he was at the movies at the time of the murder" I don't think that would be admissible.
I don't think I'm the one spouting "garbage" here.
Originally posted by Alfie1
And the evidence for your allegations is what exactly ? Do you deny that most of the Pentagon casualties were Navy personnel ? Care to advise us why they were engaged on murky finance ? Got any substantiation at all ?
Originally posted by comprehension
Originally posted by Alfie1
And the evidence for your allegations is what exactly ? Do you deny that most of the Pentagon casualties were Navy personnel ? Care to advise us why they were engaged on murky finance ? Got any substantiation at all ?
The government needs less probable cause to impound your vehicle and break into your house. They are a lawless entity the responsibility for which can be laid in the laps of "We The People".
Aren't you even a little concerned about the people who will die today because of 911?
We have every reason to suspect the government and their media and their military were wholly responsible for 911, yet they hold all the cards and can easily hide them any time they wish.
This is an aspect of truther philosphy that I don't understand. The "government", never mind changes in President, vice-President, Congressman, Senators, officials at every level, is still seen perpetually as some monolithic entity always out to get the little guy. ( and of course to continue to cover up 9/11 but it is not obvious to me why Democrats should go out of their way to protect murderous Republicans.)
Can't any of you people vote, lobby, run for office ?
I think this angst ridden attitude says more about you than the US administration and 9/11.
Why hide behind all the verbage and legislative smoke and mirrors if what you are saying is the truth?
The truth is truth, its easy to remember and repeat.
If they can't tell the truth, then something is hidden.
Sorry to make it 3rd grade mentality Hooper but it seems its needed.
It's very apparent you are either working for the very people ats is trying to uncover or you're a blithering idiot.
Originally posted by andy1972
Originally posted by VitriolAndAngst
And Thomas Kean, the Chairman of the 9/11 Commission, said they were "set up to fail"
LINK
IF it was so obvious that this was simply a terrorist act by Al Qaeda, and the CIA, Pentagon or Bush administration didn't HELP THEM -- then why the railroading of the investigation?
Funding for the 9/11 commission - 11,000,000 $
Funding for the "Monica Lewinsky mouth wash " investigation - 30,000,000 $
Now what the # does that tell you.
A secretary gargling with the presidents bodily fluid is 3 times MORE important than the murder of more than 3000 souls.edit on 31-12-2011 by andy1972 because: (no reason given)
Hoop, of all the things you choose to back regarding the OS this one takes the cake.
What Bush and Chaney did was wrong, and you know it.
Trying to justify it by quoting 'Executive Privledge' is bs.
They both should have testified seperately and under oath.
They didn't because they had plenty to hide.
If you expect to have credibility here....
....sticking up for what they did doesn't help.
You guys all have an agenda, and it has nothing to do with truth.
TextActually I don't think either one of them should have responded at all, it set a very bad precendent.
Originally posted by comprehension
reply to post by hooper
TextActually I don't think either one of them should have responded at all, it set a very bad precendent.
Then you don't believe in separate but equal branches of government, for if you did you'd concede that Bush and Cheney acted above the law, with the blessing of the alleged lawmakers.
Originally posted by GoodOlDave
Originally posted by gunshooter
what do you think would happen to this country, and the people in it if the truth about 9/11 came out, like if we found 100% proof (which I believe is there,(that final shred of proof we need) we just haven't uncovered it yet) that our government was in on it, and did this to us to profit. does anyone think that would trigger an immediate violent revolution?
No, because it's only in the conspiracy mongor lexicon that "the government" is some single autonomous entity, like a supercomputer in the basement or or a disembodied brain sitting in a vat of fluid. In the real, non-conspiracy mongor world, the government is made of lots and lots and LOTs of people, from congressmen to unpaid interns fetching congressmen their coffee, and it's physcally, logically, and logistically impossible for EVERY person involved in the government to have been "in on it". The members of gov't who weren't in on it would conduct a witch hunt for the members of gov't who were in on it. This is becauase the gov't isn't comprised of people who march in single hive minded solidarity on their leaders' every whim. The real, non-conspiracy mongor world, everyone is really out for him/herself, and they will gladly hunt down such turncoats if it helped advance their own careers.
Ironically, your question only shows why the gov't WOULDN'T have been in on it- once the list of conspirators grew to beyond two or three people, there'd be no way to keep it secret. I suspect you know that, which is why you prefer to instead entertain these fantasies that the gov't is some single autonomous entity, like a supercomputer in the basement or or a disembodied brain sitting in a vat of fluid.