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reply posted on 29-12-2011 @ 05:51 PM by sweetnlow

Our Ace in the hole would be the dollar collapsing and the government being forced to shut down.

Lets just consider by chance that someone really smart and extremely wealthy on the side of the Constitution that had the forethought to stockpile enough gold and silver to bypass the fed and reissue gold and silver certificates that can stop any collapse with the masses, and put an end to washington...how would that ring with the citizens???

reply posted on 29-12-2011 @ 05:53 PM by OnceReturned

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The part you posted there is in reference to custody. That section (1032) says that anyone detained under section 1031/AUMF (i.e. without due process, but legally justified by the AUMF and the 2012 NDAA) is to be held "in military custody until disposition under the law of war." This section does not apply to US citizens, so there's not a requirement that US citizens detained under this law be held in military custody (i.e. they could be held in the custody of some other agency). Legal resident aliens may or may not be required to be in the custody of the military, depending on the circumstances.

My point was that the 2012 NDAA doesn't grant any new powers as far as detaining people without due process. The AUMF, passed in 2001, is what those powers are derived from. The 2012 NDAA describes the powers and their implementation in greater detail, but it says explicitly that it doesn't expand or change them. They won't be able to do anything new after this passes - they've been able to do the bad stuff for a long time now.

reply posted on 29-12-2011 @ 06:09 PM by govspy911

Originally posted by OnceReturned
reply to post by govspy911

The part you posted there is in reference to custody. That section (1032) says that anyone detained under section 1031/AUMF (i.e. without due process, but legally justified by the AUMF and the 2012 NDAA) is to be held "in military custody until disposition under the law of war." This section does not apply to US citizens, so there's not a requirement that US citizens detained under this law be held in military custody (i.e. they could be held in the custody of some other agency). Legal resident aliens may or may not be required to be in the custody of the military, depending on the circumstances.

My point was that the 2012 NDAA doesn't grant any new powers as far as detaining people without due process. The AUMF, passed in 2001, is what those powers are derived from. The 2012 NDAA describes the powers and their implementation in greater detail, but it says explicitly that it doesn't expand or change them. They won't be able to do anything new after this passes - they've been able to do the bad stuff for a long time now.

They have been ABLE to do the bad stuff, but it seems that they are gearing up to actually begin implementation. With the FEMA camp authorization, use of predator drones, and TSA using Tennessee as a proving ground for unconstitutional checkpoints, there is definately a scent in the air. We all must be diligent in watching what is really going on and being able to wade through the falsehoods. We cannot work alone. We must organize our communities and have a plan. It will NOT be easy. Our founding fathers knew this, and were willing to put their own lives in peril for the sake of this nation. We all must be willing to do the same.
Hopefully with the upcoming elections, we can all get behind a candidate that will have enough backbone to stand against his or her "handlers" and reinforce the constitution.

reply posted on 29-12-2011 @ 06:11 PM by govspy911

Originally posted by sweetnlow
Our Ace in the hole would be the dollar collapsing and the government being forced to shut down.

Lets just consider by chance that someone really smart and extremely wealthy on the side of the Constitution that had the forethought to stockpile enough gold and silver to bypass the fed and reissue gold and silver certificates that can stop any collapse with the masses, and put an end to washington...how would that ring with the citizens???

Unfortunately, anyone with that much wealth is likely part of the problem.

reply posted on 29-12-2011 @ 06:14 PM by thehoneycomb

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Northcom is a different breed than most of the US military.

en.wikipedia.org...

The support that USNORTHCOM provides to civil authorities is limited by the Posse Comitatus Act which limits the role of the U.S. military in civil law enforcement. However, in case of national emergencies, natural or man-made, its Air Forces Northern National Security Emergency Preparedness Directorate will take charge of the situation or event.[1]

Headquarters
USNORTHCOM headquarters has approximately 1,200 uniformed and civilian members, and few permanent forces. Forces from all branches of the U.S. military may be assigned to the Command as needed to complete its mission.

The Military Commissions Act of 2006 lifted many restrictions placed on the military to support civilian administration by the Posse Comitatus Act, however the US Supreme Court ruled in June 2008 that significant portions of the MCA were unconstitutional. The "John Warner Defense Authorization Act of 2007" H.R. 5122 (2006) effectively nullified the limits of the Insurrection Act[8] when it was passed; however, the bill was amended in 2008.

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