The Federal Reserve's Covert Bailout of Europe , page 1
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Topic started on 29-12-2011 @ 11:24 AM by rubbertramp
i've been hearing and reading about how the u.s. is not at all involved with a bailout of europe.
i call b.s., just because the majority of the msm tells you no, we are not bailing out europe it does not make it so.
just like the excuse used to bailout the banks, europe is too big to fail.
i'm posting 2 interesting wall street journal articles.


When is a loan between central banks not a loan? When it is a dollars-for-euros currency swap.



BY GERALD P. O'DRISCOLL JR.
America's central bank, the Federal Reserve, is engaged in a bailout of European banks. Surprisingly, its operation is largely unnoticed here.


wsj article

lets also not forget the u.s.'s role in the imf.



Who's on the Hook for the IMF's Greek Bailout?


WASHINGTON—Some lawmakers and other commentators are arguing that the U.S. will be handed a big bill to rescue Greece from default because the U.S. is the International Monetary Fund's largest shareholder.
But as with much concerning the IMF, an international financial institution based in Washington D.C., it isn't that clear-cut.

"It is simply unfair—as a matter of principle—to force American taxpayers to use their hard-earned money to prop up failed policies in relatively wealthy nations," wrote Rep. Todd Tiahrt, a Kansas Republican, opposing any U.S. participation in a Greek bailout.

But the U.S. participation in the €110 billion ($145 billion) loan to Greece is relatively modest compared with the huge commitment by Greece's fellow euro-zone governments, and their taxpayers. Those 15 nations are in various stages of approving a total of $106 billion, divided according to their stake in the European Central Bank. Germany would loan $29 billion, followed by France with $22 billion.

The U.S. role comes from its obligations to the IMF, which is lending an additional $39 billion as part of the Greek package. The U.S. pays roughly in proportion to its stake in the IMF, as do other countries, if the IMF's board votes to approve the package on Sunday, as expected.



wsj article


reply posted on 30-12-2011 @ 03:30 PM by Droidinvoid
Why are the Fed and the ECB doing this? The Fed could, after all, lend directly to U.S. branches of foreign banks. It did a great deal of lending to foreign banks under various special credit facilities in the aftermath of Lehman's collapse in the fall of 2008. Or, the ECB could lend euros to banks and they could purchase dollars in foreign-exchange markets. The world is, after all, awash in dollars.

The two central banks are engaging in this roundabout procedure because each needs a fig leaf. The Fed was embarrassed by the revelations of its prior largess with foreign banks. It does not want the debt of foreign banks on its books.”

Some quotes from around the net on the subject,

There are $707 trillion in unregulated derivatives. The Fed has no choice but to bail out European banks as every US major bank has large derivative exposure to European banks.

$1 trillion may not be enough though - not for long anyway.

The Fed has lost its ability to support politicians. A new year is around the corner. God damn Mayans.

So let me understand this...The FED will print a large some of monopoly money and give it to their European gang members at the ECB, so that they can then hand it out to the fools that run the in debt Euro nations. They will then in turn spend it like drunken sailors until it is gone in say..... a year? Maybe? Then what? Oh yeah that's right now I remember! Then all of us tax payers can bend over and take it in the ass. Hope they provide us all with the local rape crises 800 number so we have someone to talk to after this happens.


2012.......... get the beer and popcorn in ........and pull up a comfy chair ONE hell of a ride is to commence.

2012 ATS was made for this do you guys have a back-up emergency fibre optic internet generator


reply posted on 1-1-2012 @ 02:36 AM by korathin
reply to post by rubbertramp



I don't know if I am really, really smart/psychic or just perpetually ahead of the curve slightly..... I could say I told you so, but I already did that once today in this forum....


reply posted on 1-1-2012 @ 12:46 PM by rubbertramp
reply to post by korathin



i'm not at all surprised by any of this.
like i said already, europe is too big to fail.
they just needed a way to do it that wouldn't draw much attention.
little did they know, we'd discuss it here.
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