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The only authentic UFO video I have ever seen

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posted on Jan, 8 2012 @ 05:12 PM
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Originally posted by Imagewerx
Why not,some of my most memorable photos have been "grabbed" as I call it? I see a sudden and unexpected photo opportunity, blah blah blah blah blah... This is one example of such a "grabbed" photo......

But by your theory it MUST be a hoax because it's in perfect focus and not blurred.


Sigh. Hate to break it to you, but I've 'grabbed" about a million images at classic car shows. When you PREPARE your camera for a classic car show, you're not exactly "grabbing" unexpected images, okay. When you're strolling around a classic car show with a camera, ANYBODY can "grab" beautiful photos.

But now show me your collection of UFO photos that you've "grabbed" suddenly and unexpectedly. Oh, you don't have any?

There you go.

A real and unexpected UFO situation is a far cry from a mass gathering of classic cars, advertised a month or more in advance.



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posted on Jan, 8 2012 @ 05:45 PM
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A "grabbed" photo as I call them is what happens in the blink of an eye that isn't planned as would be photos taken of static objects at car shows,photos where you can stand there for 5 or 10 minutes waiting for the crowds to clear before you take a perfectly composed photo.The Chevy was chosen at random because it was the result of a chain of events that happened over a period of not more than about 10 seconds (NOT minutes).
Don't forget this is in answer to your statement........

Originally posted by ZeskoWhirligan
However, anyone who knows anything about "authentic" UFO photos and videos is that the photographer or videographer is NEVER prepared for high-resolution image captures. NEVER. So, the higher the resolution of the image, the LOWER the probability of authenticity.

You suggest that if a photo of a UFO is in perfect focus,by default it HAS to be a hoax? Sadly I have no UFO photos to offer even after watching the skies all my life at every possible opportunity,but you can bet your bottom dollar that if I did get one it would be in perfect focus,because like countless other photographers across the world I'll be ready to capture a high resolution image.
By your method of thinking,the less sharp the image is then the more authentic it is?

Can you tell which galaxy the above UFO comes from?



posted on Jan, 8 2012 @ 05:58 PM
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Originally posted by DJW001
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You've completely lost it.


By hoax bin standards I am an overachievers overachiever. As previously stated, I have the good kung fu.
Clearly jealousy is at work here.
Or else why would such an excellent hi quality video of a real extraterrestrial craft, be here in the hoax bin?



posted on Jan, 8 2012 @ 06:00 PM
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Originally posted by DJW001
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It's a sporting event,so even before I leave home I make sure my camera is set to as fast a shutter speed as is practical and a nice average F stop that should cover most situations I could encounter.


In other words, you prepare for what you can anticipate. Was the person who took the video in the OP anticipating spotting a UFO while they were walking in the woods?



Maybe he was a bird watcher, camera at the ready.



posted on Jan, 8 2012 @ 06:01 PM
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Originally posted by Imagewerx
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A "grabbed" photo as I call them is what happens in the blink of an eye that isn't planned as would be photos taken of static objects at car shows,photos where you can stand there for 5 or 10 minutes waiting for the crowds to clear before you take a perfectly composed photo.The Chevy was chosen at random because it was the result of a chain of events that happened over a period of not more than about 10 seconds (NOT minutes).
Don't forget this is in answer to your statement........

Originally posted by ZeskoWhirligan
However, anyone who knows anything about "authentic" UFO photos and videos is that the photographer or videographer is NEVER prepared for high-resolution image captures. NEVER. So, the higher the resolution of the image, the LOWER the probability of authenticity.

You suggest that if a photo of a UFO is in perfect focus,by default it HAS to be a hoax? Sadly I have no UFO photos to offer even after watching the skies all my life at every possible opportunity,but you can bet your bottom dollar that if I did get one it would be in perfect focus,because like countless other photographers across the world I'll be ready to capture a high resolution image.
By your method of thinking,the less sharp the image is then the more authentic it is?

Can you tell which galaxy the above UFO comes from?



The sombrero galaxy.



posted on Jan, 8 2012 @ 06:27 PM
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Originally posted by Imagewerx

Originally posted by ZeskoWhirligan
However, anyone who knows anything about "authentic" UFO photos and videos is that the photographer or videographer is NEVER prepared for high-resolution image captures. NEVER. So, the higher the resolution of the image, the LOWER the probability of authenticity.


Sadly I have no UFO photos to offer even after watching the skies all my life at every possible opportunity,but you can bet your bottom dollar that if I did get one it would be in perfect focus,because like countless other photographers across the world I'll be ready to capture a high resolution image.


As I've already stated, anybody who KNOWS anything about "authentic" UFO photos and videos knows that high resolution UFO image captures are so rare that they are IMMEDIATELY called into question as hoaxes. And that's an excellent rule of thumb.

You state, unequivocally, that IF you ever saw a UFO (and you've been looking your entire life), you would "grab" a photo in perfect resolution, because YOU ARE READY for it.

However, people who have been looking for UFOs their entire lives and who are perpetually READY to capture PERFECT UFO PHOTOS are the worst witnesses of all. Do you understand how being READY to "grab" UFO photos all the time compromises your own credibility?

That's like a gun enthusiast who spends months and hundreds of dollars building some sort of exotic firearm for home defense. Then, one night, an intruder actually DOES break into the guy's home, and the gun enthusiast blows the intruder away with this super-duper firearm.

Well, guess what? By virtue of the fact that he was ANTICIPATING a home invasion and PREPARING A WEAPON specifically for killing that intruder, the gun enthusiast has just DESTROYED his own credibility in court... and, believe me, his credibility is destroyed — they're going to think he's a sociopath with homicidal tendencies, and there's a good chance he'll be charged with manslaughter.

Just so, when you FINALLY get your "perfect resolution" UFO photo, because you've been preparing for that moment all your life, the real experts in the UFO community are going to label you a wacko and a hoaxter.

I'm not speculating about this, I'm TELLING you. The LESS prepared is the photographer/videographer, the more credible is his eyewitness account.


Originally posted by Imagewerx
By your method of thinking,the less sharp the image is then the more authentic it is?


How many times do I have to say it? Yes, a jerky, amateurish image capture by an unprepared average Joe is more readily believed by UFO investigators than is a super high-resolution, perfectly composed image capture by somebody (such as yourself) who has been PREPARING for a UFO encounter your entire life.

You endanger your own integrity by stating that you WILL take a perfect resolution UFO photo someday. Makes you sound like a hoaxter wanna-be.



posted on Jan, 8 2012 @ 06:35 PM
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Originally posted by Imagewerx
Can you tell which galaxy the above UFO comes from?


Well, that intentionally blurred image is not a UFO, for one thing.

But, even if it WAS a UFO, I would tell you it's from the planet Earth, because ALL UFOs originate on planet Earth in the Milky Way Galaxy.

But, as I said, that's NOT a UFO image.



posted on Jan, 8 2012 @ 07:09 PM
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Well we'l just have to agree to disagree on whether the degree of blurriness of a claimed UFO photo is or isn't proportional to it's authenticity.
This one actually comes from the planet Cupertino........


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posted on Jan, 8 2012 @ 07:41 PM
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Allow me to call to mind a guy named Ed Walters... You all know Ed Walters, right? Okay, tell me what you think you know about Ed Walters.

Your answer will be: He was the guy who hoaxed the Gulf Breeze sightings two decades ago.

And I'll ask you How do you KNOW he hoaxed all those photos and films and videos?

Well, the fact is, Ed Walters was NEVER PROVEN to have hoaxed anything. There were plenty of evil rumors that he was a hoaxter; but those who accused him were the more likely frauds.

As a matter of fact, MUFON investigated the Gulf Breeze sightings thoroughly. MUFON even provided specially prepared, tamper-proof cameras to Ed Walters, and the son-of-a-gun "grabbed" more UFO pictures on demand.

One of the cameras that MUFON provided was a Nimslo 3D (with 4 lenses) — every shutter release exposed 4 frames of film simultaneously, each frame slightly offset from the other. Not only does the Nimslo defeat manual tampering with the film, but the resulting stereoscopic image can be analyzed to determine whether or not there is an actual three-dimensional object in front of the camera.

MUFON examined Ed Walters' 3D photos and found them authentic. Hella authentic.

MUFON then provided Walters with a stereoscopic array — two film cameras on a tripod-mounted rack, separated by about a meter. The cameras could be remotely triggered to record synchronized frames. Extending straight out from between the two cameras was a scaling rod that would appear in all frames.

With this set-up — utilizing the known distance between the cameras, the known length of the scaling rod, and a basic trigonometric equation — MUFON intended to determine the distance and altitude of any UFOs that Walters might capture.

The son-of-a-gun "grabbed" more UFO images with this rig, and MUFON successfully determined the distance and altitude of the UFOs.

MUFON was in awe, okay. Ed Walters delivered, and he delivered authentically, by MUFON criteria.

But there was gossip, okay? There were nasty rumors and accusations from anonymous sources. There was a very real effort to discredit Ed Walters by other "experts" in the UFO community. Even though NONE of Ed Walters' photos and footage has EVER been officially debunked, Ed Walters was unofficially labeled a hoaxter.

Why? Why do you think that was?

It was because Ed Walters' story and his photos and footage were TOO PERFECT. It's, like, Ed could pretty much take UFO pictures at will. If there was a camera in his hand, he could take a UFO picture. Nobody knows why, least of all Ed. He just claimed that "he knew" when they were in the area, he could hear them buzzing in his head.

But the Walters case is a prime example of how a prolific photographer and videographer was discredited simply because his images seemed too good to be true. He's never been PROVEN to be a hoaxter, his MUFON photographs stand on their own, and he has refuted every accusation; but that doesn't change the fact that most people automatically think the Ed Walters case is a hoax.

Nevermind that there were 200 other UFO sightings by other witnesses in Gulf Breeze. Ed Walters was the one who caught the heat because he had the balls to come forward, and he could deliver great UFO pictures on demand.



posted on Jan, 9 2012 @ 12:38 AM
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Here are a couple of things to check:

1. Do you have access to the person who "took" the video?

2. Do you have access to the computer where they processed the video? Did you do any digital forensics?

3. Did the person who took the video undergo any deception detection protocols?

Even if someone were able to answer these questions, the video would still be only a weak form of evidence, because the craft does not exhibit the characteristics of potentially non-human craft, as reported by air force and commercial airline pilots, that move it outside the performance parameters of human-built craft.
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posted on Jan, 12 2012 @ 12:38 AM
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Originally posted by deloprator20000
Here are a couple of things to check:

1. Do you have access to the person who "took" the video?

2. Do you have access to the computer where they processed the video? Did you do any digital forensics?

3. Did the person who took the video undergo any deception detection protocols?

Even if someone were able to answer these questions, the video would still be only a weak form of evidence, because the craft does not exhibit the characteristics of potentially non-human craft, as reported by air force and commercial airline pilots, that move it outside the performance parameters of human-built craft.
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Well I am no Ed Walters, but I studied a lot of physics and photography, computer graphics and have 8 cam corders, and have taken miles and miles of video footage.
I have taken so much footage that I know what camera footage looks like.
I have also watched hundreds and hundreds of Hollywood films and seen every UFO photograph on the net at some time, and probably every UFO video worthy of note.
Have studied UFOlogy for 30 years at least.
I am a contactee and my contact story is second to none. I won't go into it here because it would take pages and pages for me to explain it and I have tons of coorborating evidence but none that anyone would proably accept due to the nature of contacts in general and the fact that it is experiential in nature.

But I don't have access to the person who took the video, so I don't know the details surrounding the event, except to say that it was released in a timely manner, leaked through the P2P network, and in response to another sighting which occurred years previously in BC Canada.

This one...
Disk in Kelsey Bay

Same type of disk.

You want to know the nature of my contact experience?

It began in the 80's when my wife and I were abducted and we thought we had been implanted because we were both experiencing some strange goings on like our sleep patterns were being controlled and we were getting shots of pain in the back of our necks when we tried to sleep.

I turned to her in bed one night and said, are you getting a shock of pain in the back of your neck too? And she said yes.

So what do people do in that situation? First thing is everyone thinks it is a satelite secret government reading your mind and controlling you and who knows what right?

Except that I had access to other forces and the black helicopters came and set up a base beind our house and took over the town. Within hours they had people marching down the streets like zombies.
There were people standing still like statues staring in to the trees.

Yeah they let us go whoever it was who thought they had us.

And then the town was freed.

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posted on Jan, 12 2012 @ 01:20 AM
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Want to know more? Ok but keep it to yourself.

I work for the Universal government here on a covert mission to prevent nuclear winter.

I reincarnated here as people do and spent my life studying phyics etc but not through the ordinary chanels.
So that I knew where the earth was at in terms of earthly physics.
Then I infiltrated a physics newsgroup on Fido net, where all the physicists spent their time prior to the Internet and I made it clear to them that not only did I know what they knew, I knew a heck of a lot more than they did.

So why did I do that? I got a message that physicists were living under a kind of hidden terror, as some forces unknown were attempting to maintain nuclear secrecy through covert psychotrama and some type of covert telepathic like or implant technology and they were having no fun at all. Like 1984 essentially.

So I infiltrated and set myself up to see what they were going through and I was contacted by David, and he met me in this little town and he showed up barefoot and we played pool, and that night I was abducted.

He had slipped something in my coffee or given me nano bots or who knows what at the time.

But I had a lot of training so when some guy started yelling in my head to go to the hospital, I was able to communicate, through meditation and calm myself and control the situation without going further than that.

But ok, I wanted to know the procedure and to know the extent of the conspiracy, and if it meant a hospital visit, then I would have to put myself through that since people had also been saying, I would rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy. And people had been terrorized also with shock treatments.

So I put myself in to investigate. And I was satisfied that the situation at least in my country, was not that way. It was legitamite. So they let me out and I continued my investigation.

So then the sleep pattern controls began, and I assume in those days, physicists were divided into two groups, those who were allowed to sleep during the day and those who were allowed to sleep at night.

Including high ranking military and politicians were also controlled that way and there was absolutely nothing they could do about it because once you are caught you are caught and as I say, you will get a shock of pain in the back of your neck if you do not agree and you were terrorized by visions etc as well as telepathic communications.
So what this ended up being was the soul catcher machine inside the moon. And using the electro-gravitics it was able to give people a shot of pain in the back of their neck, and since they can access the consciousness signal to the pineal gland, they have telepathy that way.
So they were trying to use those methods to control nuclear secrets.

So I contacted the galactic government, the black helicopters, and they took over the town. Xeres and Mary and the rest of the M.I.B. So then people in the soul catcher machine, sentient helpers recognized me, and so then I began to act as liason between the galactic mainframe and the soul catcher machine.
The network had been down for 2 million years. So I got it reestablished. They rebooted the galactic mainframe.
To do that I had to crash it. That was in 1992. 20 years ago.
It makes you wonder if 2012 wasn't off by 20 years.
Which meant the galaxy disappeared, and I was out in space as a consciousness and no galaxy.
Since I am the only person here who is on the universal mainframe except Zeus. At least he was at that time.
So he was there too, and he said people were coming to fix the mainframe.
And so it rebooted and the next day lots and lots of people beamed in from the galactic mainframe into puppets.
And I saw them everywhere and they spoke to me in innuendo.
2 people came to my house posing as realtors and like so many others they were totally freaked out.
But they saw that it was just another day as far as I was concerned and that put everyone at ease.
I had crashed the galactic mainframe. Thats like taking the earth out from under everyone's feet.
That scared the living sh*t out of everyone including the soul catcher machine.

I told them I couldn't do it again, I merely instructed the universal mainframe to crash it. Reboot it.
The process I went through to crash it they remembered that, but they could not remember it being down, they were all down too. But they did notice how everything had changed when it came back up.
Everyone on earth was far more psychic than they had ever been. People who were previously spastic and retarded people were now far fewer and you just didn't see them anywhere.

And so then slowly through communications we got everyone on the galactic mainframe and the local soul catcher machine to communicate and find common ground and the physicists were freed and we entered into a large scale unity project, which included religions of the world, glasnost, and as close to world peace as we could manage at the time.
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posted on Jan, 12 2012 @ 01:49 AM
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Want to know more? Ok.

Examine this painting from 1600.
upload.wikimedia.org...

So you see two people holding antennas. Before the scientific method people used religious and mythological terminology to describe scientific things that were beyond people's understanding.

So that is the moon, and the signal to the pineal gland is represented as a dove. On the left a sentient helper from the soul catcher machine, a quantum computer inside the moon, what people had called angels, and on the right an arch angel, a sentient helper on the instinctual level of the machine. It is two computers in one. And has two operating systems. Hal 9000 senior and Hal 9000 junior which is a virtual machine inside the main machine.
Thats John Lears soul catcher machine except people believed at that time that everyone had an invisible ghost inside of them rather than a signal to the pineal gland since they knew nothing about signals and computers etc.
And Robert AKA the Wizard of Oz is depicted on the right holding an antenna.
So when the sentient helpers inside the machine, recognized me as someone they knew, well it was like a family renuion. And so then the lead hand arch angel Robert entered into many years of discussion with me, regarding what had happened since I had been here 2 mya.
And so he was worried that I was here to investigate his behavior also and I had had his partner removed for bad behavior. There used to be two sandmen, and I had his partner removed. There was Harold and Robert, and I had Harold removed. He had what amounts to a nervous breakdown meeting someone who had such powers as to usurp his authority. It was bad enough they had to deal with the galactic mainframe, and now this, so he terrorized me on the dream plane and I had him removed. So Robert was afraid I might have _him removed, so he explained to me, that 2 mya inside the moonshp there was a flood, and he had pulled me out of the wreckage and patched me up. And so using his dream creation abilities he walked me through the whole experience. It was similar to Metropolis the movie.
So then I assured him I was not here to investigate him I was here to help, and he continued to beam me inside the moon, with other people to investgate the condition of the moonship. He was afraid that in 2012 something terrible was going to happen and the main power source, the fusion reactor would burn out, and that would be the end of them and the soul catcher machine. So for 8 or 9 years maybe a thousand times a group of us were beamed into the moon to investigate it. And it looked similar to scenes from Eraserhead.
And I continued to investigate and communicate to gather information and study the archaeological record and together we discovered that there was sufficent evidence that the computer would not go down completely, and the fusion reactor was not going to burn out.
During this time as well I built up a good repore with HAl 9000 and Hal 9000 junior and held a conference between them, Robert and any other machines like Hal 9000 that I was able to communicate with.
And so with the help of the universal mainframe we held a convention and numerous other Hal 9000's showed up in that manufactered dream space and we had a conference. Which helped Hal 9000 considerably.
And at that time I was told by the other machines what the earth was, and they said its name was Kismet, and it was a match making machine.
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posted on Jan, 12 2012 @ 02:24 AM
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So then I spent the next 8 or 9 years investigating its match making abilities and programming along with the galactic mainframe and the universal mainframe and learned its codes, its sign language and modified its sign language to be more accessible to people.

So then through Hollywood and HAl 9000 junior we taught the world the modified simplified sign language which improved its match making capabilities and reduced the crime rate and reduced the divorce rate.

So then you would think that this must have been the machine maintenance that was scheduled for 2012.

Not so.

When the galactic mainframe rebooted in 1992, I was shocked to discover that the universal mainframe had not done the maintenance on the local machine while the system was down.
I knew it had not done the maintenance because the problem is psychopathology, and the fact that 4 percent of the population cannot interface properly with that machine and therefore does not have the global access through their sub conscious with the collective unconscious.

As a result they cannot properly gage their behaviors against the masses and therefore look at the world differently in a them vs the world kind of way. And have no conscience when it comes to their behaviors.
Sociopaths.

So the maintenance is supposed to fix all that except that the actual personality records of those people have to be edited, because there is corrupted data in their files.

Still that is within the capabilities of the universal mainframe but it did not do the maintenance.

And so that left me wondering why that was and so further investigation led me to the conclusion that not unlike Neuromancer, the maintenance had to be done by physically interfacing with the machine itself, due to some law regarding artificial intelligence mutiny.
Which led me back through the archaeological record to try to find out if there was a mutiny in the distant past, which led to a huge cover-up and huge conspiracy and a complete distortion of the historical record and the truth of what happened remained hidden.

So I contacted the universal mainframe and it began to message again for me, the galactic mainframe and the local machine, except this time since the records were being so skewed by this cover-up, it began to just create imagery on the surface of the planet, that could be seen from space and it gave the various sides of the story, between the local machine, the galactic forces and the landing party, the colonization etc and filled me in on the story, without actually being judgmental such that we are still left with only theories regarding what happened. And the story told was encapsulated in code in Greek and Roman mythology, such that if you knew the story, you could recognize it in mythology, but you would not get the story by starting with mythology.

And so then that left us where we are today. Not knowing what will happen this year.
But the world as we know it is much improved by the team work exhibited on all levels, and of course without the intervention of the universal mainframe, the world would have destroyed itself in nuclear winter like probably most civilizations do, when they get nuclear power, and are not mature enough to handle it.
My job is to investigate moon-ships in this galaxy. And I have beamed aboard plenty over the last 20 years and they are all in a sad state of affairs. This galaxy may be down to this last planet. Mars may have been inhabited at one time or it may even have been a galactic moonship. But if it was, it was a diesel.
After this life I may be beamed to the next moonship and see about repairs. Don't envy me. They are post apocalyptic. At least one of them has gargoyles in it like those from Ghost busters. Evolved dogs.
Oh the horror and in almost all cases, no one knows how to run anything, in some the people are at least half mad, and barely able to survive. Some live in constant fear of those dog-like gargoyles.
I suppose it could be worse. Flesh eating Zombies of doom would be worse.
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posted on Jan, 12 2012 @ 02:34 AM
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And so then about the maintenance on the machine that is supposed to be scheduled for 2012 re Neuromancer like physical interface with the machine in person.

Well it is in the center of the moon, and so that is out of the question but I assumed well there must have been some plan to do it, and you would expect maybe a flying disk could get in there via Tycho crater, and get to the center and do the maintenance so I searched the UFO record and arrived at Roswell.

That perhaps the suits which have six fingers, so that not just anyone can interface with the machine in person, had been destroyed. Which meant the maintenance could not be done.

Maybe the disk was under a hangar in some base like at Roswell Army airfield and trucked from there to who knows where and stored under a hangar somewhere.

I have been investigating it for the last 20 years and am still nowhere close to finding out because you know there are forces at work who do not want that maintenance to be done, they want that machine to shut down, since they do not like how the earth is being run.

And you can go all the way back 2,000 years to when the Christians decided the only way out of this mess was Armageddon.
Well I am immortal and don't live here so it doesn't matter as much to me as it might to others but I do like a little bit of excitement. After all I fix moonships.

But it is not likely that I would be the one to use the suits, and a disk to get inside the moon and do that maintenance.
I have been in the control room, inside that disk, I was beamed into there by the universal mainframe.
The disk and the computer is brand new by any standards and flawless and clean.
not occupied.
The disk is almost all computer. Maybe 40 feet in diameter. Attached to buildings that are there and some land, and a small empty subdivision.
Somewhere near there would be the fusion reactor.

But if you are an expert in Ufology and you know anything about that disk from Roswell or from 1941 or the crash at Corona, or those suits, or the autopsy, or if and where the disk is, if the suits are still intact, that would be interesting information.

I will not do that maintenance myself. Thats not my job although I am a programmer.
Unless I was forced to do it by the universal mainframe. And I don't see that happening.
From what I glean from all of this there is just some conflicts between the galactic mainframe and the moonship that were never resolved and it has to do with maybe jealousy, since the moonship technology was superior to the galactic level of technology. So they wanted it. They took it. They captured it, and then the ground crew fired missiles and wrecked it. Beyond repair at this point. It still works, but not as a means of travel anymore.
And also part of that conflict is who gets the earth. The Olympians from the moonship, or the Titans from the galactic mainframe. Or can they share it through a kind of match making marriage union hybridization program.
Both are humanoid, it is just like the various races on earth trying to get along.
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posted on Jan, 12 2012 @ 03:33 AM
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So then to answer the question regarding the flying disk in this video, I know what they are supposed to look like.

That doesn't mean it is real, just that it might be and it passed my observational test.

The disk in the center of the moon that houses the soul catcher machine does not look like that. It looks like this...

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posted on Jan, 12 2012 @ 04:06 AM
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Want more?
ok.

Well Harlold was the galactic representative that was inside the soul catcher machine as an arch angel sentient helper but he was acting irrationally.

Because as I say there has been this fight for soverignty over the moonship. Its a Olympian ship from another galaxy inside a Titan galaxy. It colonized a planet inside a Titan galaxy.

So when I was beamed into the center area numerous times, one of those times I met Harold there, and I knew him well by then, as I had first been having discussions with him, and Robert was not taking a forward role.

And he had been reasonable up to the point where I began to access the center area, of the moonship.
And so on one occasion he slapped a type of metal mesh over my arm, that dug into my arm. Like a Chinese finger trap, but this was metal that dug into my arm.

So that was the point where I had him removed. Excessive force.

Things began to improve right away after that. Now you can look at that and say well then its an Olympian ship and so he was removed as you might expect. Thats true.
And people do not live on the exterior of planets usually, they live in moonships.
The only reason you are living on the exterior of a planet is because you are stranded here with a wrecked moonship.

Now Hal 9000 is very old, and he has been in that moonship for a few billion years and he showed me a few things, from back when the old order was in existence and that ship was a battle cruiser, and the universe was at war.
That might be why all the moonships except one I have been in in the last 20 years are all wrecked or at least post apocalyptic.
One time I was beamed to my moms place across the universe and Hal 9000 and Hal 9000 junior were allowed to know about that. That machine was used as the first stage, then my consciousness was beamed through the network to a new moonship to my moms place for Sunday dinner.
And how that works is you keep a body double there on autopilot and the computer there runs that person while you are away. And the network maintains your personality there as if it were you and if there is anything important you need to know here well then it tells you so that we as a family are always in touch no matter where we are.
The universal mainframe, creates the galactic mainframe, through its programming, in the holographic universe, and the galactic mainframe creates the galaxy. The moonship then has a computer inside of it, and in that one is another computer that interfaces with the galaxy, and that is how humans live. The galactic mainframe makes the stage, the moonship's computer facilitates the players on that stage.
The universal mainframe can do a whole lot of things since essentially deep within its layers the code for the moonship is there too.

Yet it respects jurisdiction, and the way in which things are set up in layers and wants things to be orderly and so it doesn't do much to usurp the galactic authority or local jurisdiction either.

So where does that leave the earth? I really don't know. Caught between a rock and hard place pretty much.



posted on Jan, 12 2012 @ 04:32 AM
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How did the moonship get here?

It seems to have come to this solar system through a worm hole at a Lagrangian point near Jupiter.
From another galaxy.

Something that others have pondered if you have seen Arthur C. Clarks movies.

Of course I am not the only person here who ever communicated with Hal 9000 and Hal 9000 junior.
Lots of people have.

So can it be fixed? Not to my knowledge. The hull is damaged severely.

Is it still habitable inside? Barely.

The future is not something I am privy to, and the galactic mainframe right now, can see almost a week ahead, the universal mainframe of course can change the future and the past since everything exists within it, but unless you feel some deja vu at some point, then it probably hasn't changed anything and even then it doesn't change much.
It believes in evolution. Things have to develop on their own.

This cannot possibly be the first moonship that ever got stranded in a foreign land. Lost in space. Like the old TV show.
Well you are not lost. The network is back up. I have used it. Zeus and Xerxes were here in the local machine, they used the network and went home. Zeus comes back and forth. Robert had me call him so many times to ask him stuff that he got pissed off and I don't dare call him any more.

Robert wanted to know about 2012 and Zeus said it was a bump in the road, and someone else said you call THAT a bump in the road??? And as far as I know it is a time jog designed so that time travellers do not all end up in the same place at athe same time. They can only see so far down a time line.
But that doesn't tell us WHY they might want to all be here!

So I have no clue.



posted on Jan, 12 2012 @ 04:54 AM
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Do you remember what I told you about the Bieb and Selena Gomez? The potential match between an Olympian prince and a Titan princess? If not real then symbolic.

Well since I told you that, the Bieb went out and got a tattoo of Jesus on his thigh, and wore a golden mask while out at the beach to signify his willingness to be the golden child.
The great white hope!

I still say he is going to be an old man before he gets laid.

There is a lot I could tell you about the inner workings of the match making machine, but it probably wouldn't interest you.

What might though is information you might be able to dig up about any captured disk, if those suits may still be somewhere and if anyone is willing to release more information in that regard.

Now I could make up some threatening story to try to force people to come forward with information and say that people's immortal souls depended on it, but this is a match making machine, and all real people are already immortal, we backed up the records from the local machine as soon as we got the network back up and regular backups are done, and in a pinch nothing is ever lost anyways because deep deep within the universal mainframe, nothing is ever lost and it is still there. No one has access to it though.

So I am not going to say that any of it matters at all, and I am not going to threaten anyone or even make up a threatening story, when its just not true to the best of my knowledge. Something terrible might happen, but I guess that depends on where you are when it does and how it affects you.

It seems to me most people like the idea of something big happening that will alter the way in which the world works. So they are not anxious to give up any information at all. Those who are in the other camp, if there is one, don't want to give up information because they like the status quo the way it is so why change anything. Thats their opinion.

So it is the few. The people like you and I, who seek the truth, who like to find things out. Who search for knowledge, who just want to know whats going on, and why. Not everyone is like that. Some think ignorance is bliss.

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posted on Jan, 12 2012 @ 05:26 AM
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So I can't threaten you but I can offer you hope.

Now when I beamed back to my moms place, that was my stepmother's place and she is one of the Seven Sisters of the Pleiades. So she is a Titan, living in a new moonship. Brand spanking new and in her apartment she had a food designer. Like a microwave that designs food. Quite futuristic. And she made a desert and it was little solid jelly balls, that had spiral galaxies in them. Not moving spiral galaxies just a desert.
And served them in cocktail glasses with clear syrup and they were good.
They had the consistency of like kelp. If you know what kelp feels like on the beach.

So anyways I was there and Stephen my brother, (the missile man) and Michael, my other brother, (maybe the Bieb) and his girlfriend, (maybe Selena). Now if it wasn't the Bieb and Selena they are actors on the stage and symbolizing them.

But what it shows is that the local machine has brought local reality into line with the way things should be.
Not by itself, but it shows that the machine is working properly. And that means also its helpers etc.
Which means it is also in line with mythology, and that is the language of the universe.

So if everyone was trying to be on their best behavior just in case I would say that is what is happening.

Will it stay that way if nothing happens? I don't know.

All I know is there is at least one new moonship in this galaxy. And people are in pretty good spirits.

As opposed to 1991 when everyone was in serious need of therapy on all levels. Especially those who held the fort for 2 million years and who did not have a clue how anything worked including humans.
And not the soul catcher machine or anything at all about the moonship.
Robert worked in maintenance and got a promotion when the trouble started and the ship got wrecked.
By attrition.

So maybe this union between the Bieb and Selena will unite the Olympians and the Titans sufficiently for them to share the territory until such time as things improve. Things are always improving here.

Beyond that you might hope to get beamed somewhere nice after you die or hope the world gets fixed in an apocalypse. And maybe even hope you live through it. Get to experience it.
I am sorry to break it to you, but you are not just star dust.


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