Hmmmmm...well i'm stumped for now. I will re-work numbers and such in my head and then get back to work on it around noon.

Though i did have one thought. Since this is an ats game, you would have to think that Simon and the rest of the big dogs would know that not everyone has Photoshop. In order to make this a game that everyone on ATS can play they would need something everyons can do.

Thus EVERYONE on ATS has a browser, so everyone can play. I think when we start looking for hidden things in the photos we are getting off track. They will simply not be there because not eveyone has a program to edit them with. We should Focus on the math of the numbers and the Dr Jim site. I beleive that is our key. Though I could be wrong of course, Simon can be sneeky.

Ok I think my photoshop went crazy.
image 1
Screenshot from 2 days ago

image 1
Screenshot from today


same pixels different numbers.

omg I think I know why its different
I copy from the page then I goto photoshop, I say "new" and then "paste" But if I copy the image to my disk then "open" it, the RGB numbers are diffferent!
so I checked again and cutwolf's numbers (first ones) seem to be right.

these? 129-108-151 ???

Originally posted by pennyforyourthoughts
It's supposed to be
three numbers at coordinate 417/333

my guesses:

108 97 131 RGB from picture 1 pixel 417/333

129 108 151 RGB from picture 3 pixel 417/333

1 2 5 from 417/333=1.252252252252

That doc is unreadable. I just zoomed in in photoshop. Just a bunch of blurs.

Originally posted by Cutwolf
That doc is unreadable. I just zoomed in in photoshop. Just a bunch of blurs.

Does the name of the picture mean anything to you?

Nothing off the top of my head

4 hours tonight working on this and nada...I'm considering giving up. There's no structure here. We don't know if the coordinates refer to a map, a webpage, a picture...and we don't even know what to do with the numbers when we get them.

*sigh*

It's almost pointless to continue trying because it is going to come down to a "Look what I stumbled upon!" rather than true sleuthing.

I could be wrong, but that's what this seems like.

I think the numbers are the keys for the image names. The image names have a definite structure to them and I could only guess that the image names are there for something. It's the only strong point that existed when hunt_admin said you have the right idea.

When the keys are solved, I think they are to be used in BTS.

I've tried every thing I could think of with the file names.

And when I said no structure, I meant no structure in the sense that there is nothing that says"Well, these coordinates refer to a file..." or nothing that even hints at where we should be looking (files, RGB, FTPs, etc). It's all guessing.

For example, I come up with the numbers "5 10 6" (4+1, 7+3, 3+3), yet I have no way of testing if those numbers are right because I have no clue what I should even attempt to do with them.

[edit on 16-9-2004 by Cutwolf]

Most of the time in the Rings hunt, we felt the same way. But, it usually was always something obvious that we were overlooking. You have definate clues out there I am sure. You have probably just over looked something and it is probably something obvious too. I have not really read through alot and am just trying to help come up with some ideas, so mine may not be structured. Now, you should be sleuthing as there are definate clues. You are the ones that have been around, this is how detectives have to do it. Take what you got and think about it. Sometimes it is good to take a few hours away from it all listen to music, take a walk, watch tv or something to clear your head. Then come back and see if you see things differently. These are meant to be hard and it will take alot of brainpower to solve.

I think the numbers are either 177 or 117