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Topic started on 28-12-2011 @ 07:22 AM by curiousrb
I believe the book authored by Suzanne Collins ''The Hunger Games'' is very much based on a totalitarianism perspective which if a NWO was established could be very similar.

Basically for those that haven't read the book, I'll tell you what it's about to focus on this subject. What you need to know is there is a country called Panem which is a futuristic America. The country is broken in to 12 districts which is pretty much a ranking system. 1 being the best district and 12 being the worst - Living standard and resource wise. The districts are fenced off from one another and from the outside world, to keep the citizens ''safe'' as the Panem Government (Dictators) say there is something they are keeping them safe from. What I find interesting is that there was once a district 13, which had to be destroyed due to rebellion.

The country also has a capital which has all the government workers (dictators) which receive what the workers in the districts worked for as each district has to obtain a certain resource or work in a certain industry.. So basically, the people in districts are slaves and work for the people in the capital for basically little return as they are black mailed in to doing so. If you have read the book you will know what I mean and if you don't already know there is a movie coming out in around mid 2012. If you haven't read the book then I encourage you to as it is a very well thought out book and is a great read.

Comment your thoughts or views on whether you think there is some perspective of NWO in the book.
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reply posted on 28-12-2011 @ 07:43 AM by curiousrb
reply to post by Unrealised


I guess it really depends on whether we believe a NWO is beneficial or not.. And that will give us our perspective on things.



reply posted on 28-12-2011 @ 07:52 AM by LightSpeedDriver
reply to post by curiousrb

The story does seem to have a similar feel to others I have seen in movies. Dystopian views of a future world. Well, some of it feels quite current. Slaves? Who us?

I think many here subscribe to the idea of the NWO/Illuminati types existing and I for one do not think their intentions are honourable. I don't get the chance to read books anymore as they are just too expensive here. Foreign language books cost a little more than the Dutch ones usually so I just read sites like this. Reading a book on the PC is not my favourite thing. I did re-read 1984 recently but it's tiring on the eyes.


reply posted on 28-12-2011 @ 07:56 AM by curiousrb
reply to post by LightSpeedDriver


Yes I don't enjoy reading a lot from the computer screen. But now that you mention it, I've realized that we are seeing more and more tyrannic based movies and books.. Maybe influential in a way? Who knows?


reply posted on 28-12-2011 @ 09:58 AM by Xcalibur254
reply to post by PISMO


It would be interesting if Koushun Takami didn't do the exact same thing in 1999 with Battle Royale. From what I can tell the Hunger Games series is simply an attempt to cash in on a story that has proven popular by Westernizing it.


reply posted on 28-12-2011 @ 10:28 AM by Jiggyfly
reply to post by Xcalibur254


....and Battle Royale was clearly derived from The Running Man (except with felons) and The Long Walk (a cash prize and with volunteers.)

You can't pick and choose what is derivative and what isn't.

That said, there are a number of differences that make Hunger Games different from Battle Royale, though they clearly belong to the same sub-genre.

1. The series goes into much deeper detail about the nature of government and control of the populace. There is nothing groundbreaking here, since she just ripped most of it from Roman history, but Battle Royale doesn't touch on this at all, other than to say that the government is ruthless.

2. The series does much more to blur the lines between good and evil. A central theme in the series is that good and evil are often indistinguishable, as evidenced by the leader of the resistance and by what Katniss is forced to become in order to survive. This aspect of morality is not developed at all in Battle Royale, other than to deal with the occasional feeling of remorse.

3. Age warfare is not a concept at all explored in Hunger Games, yet it is central to Battle Royale.

4. In Battle Royale, the battle is not for entertainment. There is no social commentary regarding pop culture and the desensitization towards violence that is present in Hunger Games.

Battle Royale is a good read, for sure. However, it's not as developed intellectually as Hunger Games, and trust me, I never thought I'd say that about a Scholastic Co. commissioned book.

If you want to be blatantly cynical about Hunger Games without facing an intellectual challenge, just say she ripped off The Lord of the Flies and set it in a future dystopia which she ripped off from The Roman Empire. To say she ripped of Battle Royale, aside from the plot similarities present in the entire sub-genre, means you probably weren't paying enough attention to either book.


reply posted on 28-12-2011 @ 09:05 PM by curiousrb
reply to post by Xcalibur254


Like I said. Now that I think about it many books seem to have a NWO perspective or a tyrannic perspective in the plot.


reply posted on 29-12-2011 @ 07:27 PM by TheLiesOfEden
The Hunger Games is a fantastic series, I most definitely would suggest it to anyone looking for a good series of novels to read. I read the books long before they announced the film and I am very pleased to say, it looks like they didn't f**k up a good book in the movie representation the way they did with Cirque Du Freak, which is an amazing book series that could have been fantastic in theatres but they went about the film the entirely wrong way. There are an awful lot of Dystopian novels being published as of late, it is a genre fast gaining popularity along with Steampunk fiction, one of my favourites. There are some really good ones out there, and it's a genre worth exploring. The goverment described in the books is a bit NWO-esque, although of course all the advances made in technology and fashion are most likely a long ways off. I do see what you mean, though, OP. It's got that Totalitarian feel to it. The key part of the series is, of course, the Hunger Games that two children from every district are forced to participate in, a girl and a boy. The entire process leading up to the initiation of the games is a grand affair, the contestants ride to the capital, their procession into the center in all their costumes, the banquets, all up until the enter the arena for the first time, and the fight for their lives begins. When that begins, that's when s**t get serious, but even then it doesn't really set in until the first murder is commited. That's when it starts to get raw.


reply posted on 27-1-2012 @ 10:59 AM by SunnyDee
reply to post by Neysa


I am on the second book. I never really watched the running man movie, other than small scenes here and there, but that was my first thought on this story.

The first book sets the futuristic storyline, but the second book seems to really ring so many bells for me of what may be a future in America. The whole military (peacekeepers) situation reminds me of what we talk about here regarding our own military being used in an uprising or civil war.

The constant lies told through the media in the story, and the glamorizing of cruelty remind me of what we see every day on television, but when you read about it in this story, it sets off bells of "that is so similar to what I just saw on television, just a different angle!"

These books are considered young adult, but I enjoyed the first and am into the second. I hightly suggest you read them, if for nothing else that a really good read.

My teen son couldn't put it down either. I actually think these books would make good high school english whole class assignments. There is a lot to dissect in them and meaning to be learned from them.


reply posted on 27-1-2012 @ 11:55 AM by Neysa
reply to post by SunnyDee




The whole military (peacekeepers) situation reminds me of what we talk about here regarding our own military being used in an uprising or civil war.



The constant lies told through the media in the story, and the glamorizing of cruelty remind me of what we see every day on television, but when you read about it in this story, it sets off bells of "that is so similar to what I just saw on television, just a different angle!"

It's sad that some people CAN see the writing on the wall but others can''t even see the wall until they crash right smack into it.


reply posted on 14-3-2012 @ 04:43 PM by Neysa
reply to post by MissPoovey


if the districts would co-ordinate against the Capital, and not kill eachother in the games, there would be no sport. Just like in the first book when Katniss would not kill Peeta and visa versa. No winner, no sport.

I'm pretty sure that in book 2, Katniss considers trying that and then recalls that the game makers would find a way to make them kill one another or just randomly start killing the contestants.
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