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Originally posted by MissSmartypants
reply to post by sputnik
I'm sure it's happened unintentionally with bacteria and the like but an actual seeding program would be massively irresponsible - doesn't mean it wouldn't happen though.
After all we did find that meteorite from Mars with the "alleged" fossilized bacteria in it....so who's to say meteorites from Earth don't find their way to Mars.
Most researchers surmise that the results of the Viking biology experiments can be explained by purely chemical processes that do not require the presence of life, and the GC-MS results rule out life.
Originally posted by templar knight
I remember at the time (1980s) that the news said that some experiments showed evidence, some did not. This is really interesting as you would expect the experiments to be retried in the next Mars landing (as this is massively important).
Also agree that cross contamination between Earth and Mars is not only possible but probable. given the amount of time that bacteria have been on this Earth and their virtual indestructability.
Originally posted by muzzleflash
Originally posted by MissSmartypants
reply to post by sputnik
I'm sure it's happened unintentionally with bacteria and the like but an actual seeding program would be massively irresponsible - doesn't mean it wouldn't happen though.
After all we did find that meteorite from Mars with the "alleged" fossilized bacteria in it....so who's to say meteorites from Earth don't find their way to Mars.
If a meteor could potentially come from Mars with bacteria on it (although that issue is still quite controversial), and we have proven bacteria can survive for a long duration in outer space (proven fact), and we sent multiple bacteria covered space probes to Mars (proven fact), what do you think that may possibly mean?
To me this is pretty obvious.
Originally posted by OmegaLogos
Disclaimer This is a rapid reply and possibly kneejerk and so expect me to edit this to confirm or deny what I am about to post.
Explanation: It is my understanding that there were SEVERAL experiment tests performed [3 I think ] and this blokes experiment was VERY accurate and the other 2 experiments [which this bloke now claims..] were faulty/dodgy.
Personal Disclosure: I will get back asap and edit this post [by adding below] with the real deal as soon as I have done the research!
UPDATED...
Edited to add ...
Long-time Mars Researcher Hopeful That Curiosity Rover Will Confirm Claim of Life on Red Planet (By Genalyn Corocoto | December 2, 2011 10:31 AM EST) [au.ibtimes.com]
NASA's 1976 Viking Mission experimenter Gilbert V. Levin who had written in 1997 that his Labeled Release (LR) experiment detected living microorganisms on Mars, recently said that instruments aboard Curiosity can confirm his published claim.
Contrary to the statement of NASA that its new mission to Mars carries no life detector, Dr. Levin said that the organic analyzers and the high resolution camera on Curiosity are his "stealth life detectors."
Together with Dr. Patricia Ann Straat as his co-experimenter, Dr. Levin conducted the LR experiment that produced evidence of life on Mars. However, NASA discounted the LR results because another Viking instrument failed to find organic matter, the stuff of life.
To further prove his claim, Levin has written Dr. Mike Malin, designer of Curiosity's camera, requesting for high-resolution pictures of "lichen-like" colored patches as these might be living organisms.
Please refer to article linked above for full story.
Gilbert Levin [wiki]
P.S.
edit on 27-12-2011 by OmegaLogos because: Edited to add the edit I promised.
Originally posted by muzzleflash
Oh and Spherix's logo again =
Red sphere = Mars
Thunder bolt = Fertilization
Get it?
I listed a link to Bellatrix also. War = Bella
Mars = War Deity
I could connect this in all kinds of ways.
Go reread my posts above. They are trying to tell us something perhaps?
But who is listening or paying any attention?
It's right in our face!edit on 27-12-2011 by muzzleflash because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by sputnik
Originally posted by muzzleflash
Originally posted by MissSmartypants
reply to post by sputnik
I'm sure it's happened unintentionally with bacteria and the like but an actual seeding program would be massively irresponsible - doesn't mean it wouldn't happen though.
After all we did find that meteorite from Mars with the "alleged" fossilized bacteria in it....so who's to say meteorites from Earth don't find their way to Mars.
If a meteor could potentially come from Mars with bacteria on it (although that issue is still quite controversial), and we have proven bacteria can survive for a long duration in outer space (proven fact), and we sent multiple bacteria covered space probes to Mars (proven fact), what do you think that may possibly mean?
To me this is pretty obvious.
Yeah, i totally agree.
And if there's one meteorite out there with bacteria on it, then there's probably many more in the same state.
I wonder if one day we'll be able to trace all life back to one particular 'genesis' that then spread out across the universe, or will it be that it spontaneously came into being in several different locations in the universe at once.
In reference to your OP, i'm completely sold on there being life on mars in any case. And if you accept that, then really you have to accept life exists absolutely everywhere else too.
Originally posted by MissSmartypants
Thanks so much for the updated info. Odd how it was previously stated that no life detecting equipment was being sent to Mars and now it seems there was. I guess disclosure is only coming in premeasured baby steps.
After Viking, Levin was appointed team member of NASA's MOx experiment aboard the Russian '96 Mission to Mars