Originally posted by ATH911
Nothing was shot down because no plane crashed.

Originally posted by ATH911
Plus, the shoot down evidence would only fit if a plane flew in the opposite direction.

Originally posted by snowcrash911
reply to post by shannon83

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shannon83, I don't think it will be necessary to respond to your whole comment, but I'll settle for your claim that the Pentagon was never a crime scene, which is debunked as follows:

Within five minutes of the Pentagon being hit, the first group from the FBI’s National Capital Response Squad arrives there. Due to this being a terrorist attack, the Pentagon and its grounds are immediately declared a federal crime scene.

Source



A Few Important Excerpts

Sam Danner, who had been an emergency medical technician, was driving near the Pentagon on September 11, 2001.

When he was in front of the Pentagon, traffic began to slow down. Danner noticed an airplane in the distance. He knew about the attack on the WTC, and he pulled over and got out of his car. He noticed a small aircraft in the distance coming towards him.

However, he also noticed some people on the Pentagon property watching the traffic and the aircraft:
WhiteCollarPeopleLooking.mp3

He saw a second airplane with 4 engines high up in the air above the Pentagon:
JetHighAbove4Engines.mp3

A couple seconds later the first aircraft passes in front of him. He describes it as a white aircraft about the size of Gulfstream 300. The front was like a humpback whale. It was flying very low to the ground:
HumpbackWhaleOneEngine.mp3

There was only one engine, and it was in the tail:
TailConfigurationOf727.mp3

As other witnesses have said, the airplane seemed to be under perfect control. He did not notice any windows on the plane:
LookedLikeUnderPerfectControlNoWindows.mp3

He felt the air move as the aircraft flew by, but the aircraft was amazingly quiet:
FeltAirVeryQuiet.mp3

He saw some of the light poles that had been hit by the aircraft, but they seem to have fallen in the wrong direction, as if explosives knocked them down:
LightPolesBlownBackwards.mp3

Danner walked onto the Pentagon property to help the survivors, but he didn't find any bodies or luggage:
WhereAreTheDeadPeopleAndSuitcases.mp3

He joined the people who picked up scraps (see the photo at the top of this page):
AskedToHelpPickUpScraps.mp3

One of the other people assumed they were picking up scraps only to make it appear as if they were doing something useful; ie, in order to impress somebody important:
HorseAndPonyShowNothingToPickUp.mp3

All they found were bits of shredded aluminum and some type of polymer material with fibers:
RoughOnOneSideWithFibers.mp3

He saw tiny bits of aluminum, a few large pieces, and only one engine:
BitsOfAluminumAndOneEngine.mp3

Danner's description of the airplane and the scraps supports the theory that a Global Hawk crashed into the Pentagon.





Many people started to wonder what was going on:
PeopleUpsetConfused.mp3

The people who appeared to be official government agents did not seem interested in rescuing victims:
AgentsDidntSeemToCare.mp3

Are you aware that prior to the collapse of Building 7 at the World Trade Center, the people in the area were told to move away because the building might collapse? Well, Danner said that after a while they were told to move away from the Pentagon. Some of the people in the area obviously knew that a portion of the building was about to collapse:
AgentsToldPeopleToBackAway.mp3

Most of the Pentagon employees were as confused about what was happening as Danner, which implies that only a small number of the Pentagon employees were part of this scam. This implies that a lot of Pentagon employees must have figured out that they were lied to:
LotOfPeopleSuspicious.mp3

Danner's testimony shows that there must be thousands of people who know that the official story is a lie, but they don't realize that their information is important, or they are too frightened to talk.

The suspicious government agents intimidated the innocent people who wanted to help:
WeWereIntimidated.mp3

He made a sarcastic remark to a government agent about how there was a tremendous loss of life from the airplane crash but he couldn't see any of it:
AgentsDidntSeemConcerned.mp3

Danner's final conclusion was that there was no 757; the official story is a lie:
No757ItIsBigLie.mp3


As I mentioned to Sam Danner: This was not a proper protocol crime scene by any means. What you say sir may be very spot on, but as always it does not mean a thing to us. I will not have a tit for tat childish forum here because it is just plain senseless. There is no " Boy did I tell Him/Her the right way". I do not feel I am lacking in knowledge in the Flights 93 and the Pentagon go. You and I live in the free world or so we think, but we had a go at this Rumsfeld tonuge slip thing and that went well.

I know that all of you at ATS know a lot more that I do about thermite.