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believers in jesus...please explain this..

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posted on Jan, 2 2012 @ 10:58 AM
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Why did you quote my post? The person I quoted with that said: "who we worship we become property of".

What can be better news to a Christian than to be property of Jesus Christ?




posted on Jan, 2 2012 @ 11:09 AM
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Originally posted by NOTurTypical
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Why did you quote my post? The person I quoted with that said: "who we worship we become property of".

What can be better news to a Christian than to be property of Jesus Christ?


The ACTUAL quote was


When you accept jesus or any other deity as your lord and savior you become the property of same.
You should not give your soul to any tinpot god, you should keep it as your own.


Notice that second sentence you left out?
It now becomes clear your remark was sarcastic, and unkind.



posted on Jan, 2 2012 @ 11:21 AM
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Notice that second sentence you left out?


I "left it out" because I never responded to that line in the first place. My response was directed at the first sentence. If you'll go back to the previous page you'll notice I only quoted the first line of that member's post.



It now becomes clear your remark was sarcastic, and unkind.



No, no, no! What that member meant as ridicule they didn't realize was a badge of honor for a Christian.

The greatest news in my life is that I'm the property of my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.

Again, HalleluYAH!!!



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posted on Jan, 2 2012 @ 11:29 AM
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all religion aside.....perhaps the decent thing to do would be to apologize?



posted on Jan, 2 2012 @ 12:04 PM
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Originally posted by vogon42
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all religion aside.....perhaps the decent thing to do would be to apologize?


Apologize for what? Your offense?



posted on Jan, 2 2012 @ 01:44 PM
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Originally posted by NOTurTypical

Originally posted by vogon42
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all religion aside.....perhaps the decent thing to do would be to apologize?


Apologize for what? Your offense?


No, not me. Simply suggesting the decent thing to do would be to apologize for your intentionally sarcastic reply to another member on this thread.

I have heard others say
"treat others like you would like to be treated"

Does your religion include any ideas like that?



posted on Jan, 2 2012 @ 09:44 PM
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Originally posted by 547000
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Keep reinterpreting His words like that to suit your pantheistic fantasies. I think you will be shocked when judgement time rolls around.


I AM judged everyday my friend.

And for this, I AM shocked.

With Love,

Your Brother



posted on Jan, 2 2012 @ 11:10 PM
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Originally posted by vogon42

Originally posted by NOTurTypical

Originally posted by vogon42
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all religion aside.....perhaps the decent thing to do would be to apologize?


Apologize for what? Your offense?


No, not me. Simply suggesting the decent thing to do would be to apologize for your intentionally sarcastic reply to another member on this thread.


Oh, there was no sarcasm I assure you. The most comforting feeling I have as a person is the knowledge that I'm the property of Jesus Christ.


I have heard others say
"treat others like you would like to be treated"


Yes, that's the golden rule. If I attempted to ridicule someone and I actually made them happy I'd expect them to shout for joy. What's the issue here? The member I quoted was trying to ridicule us who worship God, it failed. It wasn't a ridicule at all, it's a badge of honor for me.

Are you angry because that person's attempt to offend caused me to shout for joy? Are you mad my feelings were in no way shape or form hurt by their post? That's kinda what I'm getting from your complaints to my shout for joy.


Does your religion include any ideas like that?


Yep.



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posted on Jan, 2 2012 @ 11:13 PM
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I AM judged everyday my friend.


We all are. Join the club.



posted on Jan, 3 2012 @ 08:37 AM
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Originally posted by NOTurTypical
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I AM judged everyday my friend.


We all are. Join the club.


Not by me.

You are just the product of your experience. What is to judge?

With Love,

Your Brother



posted on Jan, 3 2012 @ 10:49 AM
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Originally posted by IAMIAM

Originally posted by NOTurTypical
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I AM judged everyday my friend.


We all are. Join the club.


Not by me.

You are just the product of your experience. What is to judge?

With Love,

Your Brother


I never said "by you".

I said we all are judged daily, join the club. Someone, somewhere, someplace makes judgment on all of us on a daily basis.



posted on Jan, 12 2012 @ 04:42 PM
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It reminds me of a song that was popular in 1970, by Grand Funk.... I can feel him...... go to youtube and watch it all you atheists



posted on Jan, 12 2012 @ 05:46 PM
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Originally posted by k1k1to
according to many religions...mostly christianity


the way to avoid damnation and eternal punishment in hell....is to accept jesus christ as your lord and savior.

my question is? what about the mayans? the ancient egyptians? the incas? cavemen etc...what about them? how were they to accept jesus christ as their savior when he wasnt even born yet? are they to live in eternal hell for this?

how were the natives living in north america supposed to know jesus was born? why was he born in a certain part of the planet, and not the other? that doesnt seem fair..


i hate paradoxes



People with no knowledge of god was judged on their deeds. And what was in the true nature of their hearts. If they were worthy of heaven they were sent to paradise. Paradise is a place in HELL where all saints that died prior to Jesus Christs birth. Paradise was a place that was safe from the tortures of hell. The heat, stench, torment was not felt by the ppl in paradise. When Jesus died on the cross he descended to hell for 3 days. To gather the saints in paradise. And also preached to the ppl that never had knowledge of god during their earthly lives. For it is written that Jesus is THE WAY. No one will get to heaven unless its through him. Hope that answered ur question.



posted on Jan, 12 2012 @ 06:00 PM
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Originally posted by HangTheTraitors

Originally posted by dominicus
Its not a paradox, God wil judge those of other religions acccording to those religious biases since they knew nothing else.

However after Christ arrived, he left the blueprint on how to arrive at Enlightenment and Union w God. The easy path. So really its not that confusing. God is pure fairness and just understanding that many will be born into a biased upbringing.


Hmmm, and you know this, how?? Did you have a conversation with some 'god' who told you this? Or are you going by a fairy-tale book that had copied all predating myths into a single flavor to swallow whole? Because when you look at earlier beliefs, you will see that the christian faith is nothing unique at all. So why believe a book that is the work of plagiarism.

Now if you spoke to 'god' directly then, and 'he' 'she' or 'it' confirmed this info with you, please provide this 'gods' contact info (phone number, address, email addy) so that we also can have a similar convo with this 'god' to verify this.

Otherwise, believing in a fairy-tale book is NOT gonna cut-it!!





I know not of any fairy tale books that have had over 500 prophecies already come true to exact letter. There is about 2500 total in our fairy tale book. Not to mention how it describe the earth as round centuries before Galieo was even born. So really why dont u reveal ur source on how the bible is plagerized. And is not unique at all. Or maybe i already know ur source. U are ur own source right? It came straight out ur mind based on uneducated and ignorant beliefs. I mean it would totally be illogical to pick up and read the bible in order to know whats wrong with it right? Ur a very very typical athiest. U spout lies about our religion to support ur beliefs. Which makes perfect sense. U cant fight truth with truth for there is only one truth. Therefore u fight our truth with boldface lies.



posted on Jan, 12 2012 @ 09:16 PM
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Paradise is a place in HELL where all saints that died prior to Jesus Christs birth.

Where do you get this from because I don't remember any Bible verses like this?
1 Peter says something about Jesus through the eternal spirit going to preach to the people during the time Noah was building the Ark, so it would have been a sort of time travel.
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posted on Jan, 21 2012 @ 01:28 PM
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First off Hell is not for enternity! People have misunderstood that in the bible. 

Rom 6:23 For the wages of sin is death but the gift of God [is] eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord. 

"The wages of sin is death" that is the final punishment of the non elect,death. God is merciful,it is only the cruelness of man that such a creature would want a fellow human to suffer such great agony for ever. 

Remember the rule God set up in the bible when paul was beaten. A person could only receive 40 stripes save one. So 39 stripes(because 40 stripes is almost enough to kill someone) Throughout the bible you will find that when a person suffers it is only for a short while. The two thief's at the cross both suffered for a short while then the one on the left entered death he is non existence no suffering in a place called hell. (In fact the word for hell actually means grave). 

The thief on the right entered into the greatest joy a human can receive he entered into paradise. 


Luk 23:40 But the other answering rebuked him, saying, Dost not thou fear God, seeing thou art in the same condemnation? 
Luke 23:41 And we indeed justly; for we receive the due reward of our deeds: but this man hath done nothing amiss. 
Luke 23:42 And he said unto Jesus, Lord, remember me when thou comest into thy kingdom. 
Luke 23:43 And Jesus said unto him Verily I say unto thee , Today shalt thou be with me in paradise. 



But anyways to the point 

You said that baby could be saved because the can't accept Jesus . Well first off John the baptist was saved in the womb,before he was even conceived. Secondly accepting Jesus doesn't mean anything this is a false teaching. No one accepts Jesus. Jesus accepts you. 

Tts 3:Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost; 

Everyone is evil there is not one person better than the other I'm just as wicked as Hitler or as Martin Luther king we are all sinners. 

Rom 3:23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God; 

There are many people in the bible who believed on Jesus but were not saved for example judas iscariot is one,Saul believed in God but wasn't saved. There was a great multitude following Jesus that turned away because they loved the things of this world! 

There is a verse that says that says something like this " you believe then you do well. The devils also believe and tremble! So just because you believe doesn't mean your saved. 

So yes hitler COULD have been saved or Could have been unsaved. Only God knows the heart. And to many people this would make them mad that hitler might be saved, but people must remember ALL HAVE SINNED AND FALLEN SHORT OF THE GLORY OF GOD! 

You are almost right about the last thing you wrote we are not saved by works but by grace that is the Grace of God. But we can't accept Jesus Jesus accepts us. Accepting Jesus is a work. 

Sorry for the long post but I hope this answers some or all of your questions/comments. 

Remember God is a merciful God we always tend to look at all the bad things that happen and say "Gods not merciful) but it's our sin that has caused all the bad in this world. Just look at all the Mercies of God. Start with every single heartbeat. For his mercies are more in number than the sand that is by the seashore or the stars in the heavens!




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