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Lets Get Serious. How Can We Save The World, An Awake Others To Take Action? [Brainstorming Session]

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posted on Dec, 27 2011 @ 01:16 AM
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This is a serious thread. Most of us on ATS are already awakened.
We know what exactly is going on in the world. We know the Elites
Are pushing their agenda Full Throttle. Now. What can we seriously do
About it??

This is the most uncertain time in human history, ever! To know that
Your's, and families lives are at stake. The way of living will dramatically
Change if 'THEY" get there way. We could very well enter WW3, any day.
Cities could destroyed. Hundreds of thousands, if not, millions of people
Would be killed. Directly, or indirectly. Famine, Nuclear fall out, and civil unrest
Could all happen.

We the people MUST do something smart. That's why I'm posting this thread.
To the serious people that are really concerned about their country, their world,
To act fast, and smart. How can everyone play a part, to wake people up, families
And friends, and encourage them to do the same?

ITS ABSOLUTELY SCARY HOW PEOPLE DON'T THINK ABOUT IT. All my peers
Are worried about the stupidest stuff. None are hip to whats going on in local
Or Geo-politics. We have an extreme challenge ahead of us, because we have to stop
Them for a few minutes, and really have them open their mind, and sink all of this data
In.To let them know how imperative it is to act, and to act now!

I just wish the OWS movement was 'Occupy Washington D.C' . So that we could let the
Corrupt bastards know that we the people are on to their game, and we're not gonna
Go for it! We want CLEAN politics, and CLEAN politicians! We we want the politicians
To listen to their people. Their employer! I don't give a flying you know what! If the people
Want to smoke crack, hold guns, or live in any condition they want.So be it! So long, it is the PEOPLE
That have spoken, not special interest of a few greedy, evil, elitist.

NOW. What methods can we use to raise awareness, spread the word, the message? I think there
Is no better place then to start spark or help a revolution, then ATS.

P.S. If you have nothing positive to say or anything helpful to contribute, please do not post. We do not need any negativity here. This is for people that actually want to make a difference. Some way. Some how.

Best Regards,

King




posted on Dec, 27 2011 @ 01:33 AM
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You're already starting this from the wrong point.

It was never the state. Never, you hear me? The governments of man were never the problem. It was always the money holders, the money changers, the bankers, and the ones who give the bankers power.
The state is merely a reflection of the one who hold the money. Destroy the system of monetary value and you'll be able to establish true change.

I brainstormed a plan: www.abovetopsecret.com...
I never really spread it, but it would be the first real blow that the True Powers would ever take on the chin.



posted on Dec, 27 2011 @ 01:37 AM
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my friend
I totally get what you are getting at, far too many people care too much about who will win x factor or some silly reality TV show, their is far too much stuff we should really care about that it seams totally mental that the
average Joe just acts blind to what is happening

it's not funny but it makes me laugh



posted on Dec, 27 2011 @ 01:45 AM
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I hope this thread explodes.

I'm actually surprised something like this hasn't shown up sooner (maybe I just missed it
).

The first step is in ANY successful social movement is to define the problem(s) in terms everyone can agree on.

See, even in writing that I understand why people haven't made much progress.

NEVERTHELESS! We can do this. We must do this. We have to try at least ...

We just have to.
edit on 27-12-2011 by followtheevidence because: (no reason given)



posted on Dec, 27 2011 @ 02:03 AM
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Elect enough Congressmen and Senators who are for ending Usury and the rest will fall into place.

Although social injustice will never end so long as people maintain the status quo. You must change the people to change the world. To change the people you must allow them to choose an option that gives them control over their destiny. There is hope, but in all honesty it will take something 'biblical' to make that change happen.



posted on Dec, 27 2011 @ 02:09 AM
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Yes I have a idea. To start solving the problems we face on this planet it would take designing a new type of nonprofit Web site that would incorporate the power of the consumer.It would use that power to pay for the ideas to be manifested into reality.I have the outline of the program but I need the code writers to implement my concept and the servers to make it function.So I would need to put together the right coop to accomplish it.So if you have the know how and the time.let me know. I don't know about giving my email out if there are rules on this site about that so maybe just follow up with reply on this to start with.

Thanks for reading



posted on Dec, 27 2011 @ 02:15 AM
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Great Idea koodos May this be the start of something good, again great thread.



posted on Dec, 27 2011 @ 02:18 AM
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Follow the money.
Who gains from the current banking and who loses.
World trade is not fair for the poor and is more fair to the rich.
Look it not just greedy bankers its everyone who believes a bad deal for you is a good deal for me.
At the heart it is greed and jealousy.
What is needed is a change of heart.

The only mind you can change is your own



posted on Dec, 27 2011 @ 02:23 AM
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You want to get serious?

Ok. How about a worldwide uprising against all governments right now, or total enslavement?

Any other solution leads to global enslavement/world war 3/economic collapse/humanity dying in mass.

There's serious for you.

It's already too late, enjoy what's left of the "good times".



posted on Dec, 27 2011 @ 02:33 AM
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The moment you accept defeat is when your defeated... untill then.. your winning.

Never give up! never surrender!

we are only in our current situation because we dont have faith in our selfs as a collective.

WE CAN MAKE CHANGE, GREAT THREAD!! S+F



posted on Dec, 27 2011 @ 02:47 AM
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Originally posted by ConspiraCity
reply to post by thejlxc
 


The moment you accept defeat is when your defeated... untill then.. your winning.

Never give up! never surrender!

we are only in our current situation because we dont have faith in our selfs as a collective.

WE CAN MAKE CHANGE, GREAT THREAD!! S+F


That is just not reality. Reality is they're literally putting the last bricks in the wall, have tech that makes guns laughable, and are making illegality Legal! So at what point do you feel you, or anyone, is winning in any way shape or form. Millions of brown people have died as Americans began to "awaken". The US govt ignore the Constitution and Bill of Rights, but they WONT do (insert whatever you like here)

I'm not giving up. If we did what I suggested we could win. If we sit around we're done done done. Occupy isn't even real enough by far. Nothing less than open worldwide rebellion against the Central Banks and all their bought off politicians around the world will stop this, and I think that even that will be seen coming a mile off, and they will simply use other means.

We have already lost so very much, so many people, so many lives, so much terror and suffering and starvation. You may imagine now that people in the 1st world are feeling the pinch that it's an awakening.... it's been a way of life for much of the world under fire. It's all wrong, it's all linked, it's all working towards our end.

There is no talking. There is no debating.

We need actual change, but don't sweat it. People will talk and talk right up until they're done for. People want to believe some magic solution to world problems will be found. That someone, somewhere else, will fix it.

Until we all grow up and realize each of us is needed, and right now, and in a life altering end of the current society kind of way. We're all important, and we need to change this.

Most people I talk to, and I talk to more people than most because of my job, don't even know what the NDAA was or cared at all when they found out. Awakening? LOL

They've been using us as tax sheeple for all of our lives, and they have been removing freedom all of our lives, and they have been bombing brown people for so long nobody really cares enough to end it, and so on and so on. They've already sold us out. It's already happened I don't know how anyone can rationally argue against that.

We're waiting for the Axe to fall, while the "awakening" grows. Well until the Awake take direct and meaningful action outside of what is considered "ok".... it's game over anyways. You gonna yell at their released bioweapons?

This is more directed to everyone who thinks we have time, not just ConspiraCity.



posted on Dec, 27 2011 @ 03:18 AM
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Make our own government, dont trust or vote for anyone they give us, whether he speaks the truth (RON PAUL). They know exactly wat we wanna hear whether he's been doin it for a long time or not, it COULD all be planned.
So reject everything from them, EVERYTHING

let that system go completly down the drain, have some new "founding fathers"

But as far as the plan goes, we gotta hijack our mass media back... somehow..to educate the ones that still care about the stupid stuff they get fed thru the TV

GangBangers are our best actual army right now, they have already been living the anti-gov lifestyle jus misguided
they have been living under the NDAA for along time, so they already go tthat survival instinct that the masses needa catch on to..

we need everyone we can get so lets take all the educated ones, criminals or not and work together
especially the criminals, they can appeal to the people who glorify the "bad boy" mentality and thats exactly what we need.

Just a start....



posted on Dec, 27 2011 @ 03:24 AM
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Again ...

The first step in any successful social movement is to define the problem in terms all participants can agree upon.

Sooooo ...

I say a debt-based economy/fiat currency/fractional reserve banking is the true culprit and as good a place to start as any.

What say you?

edit on 27-12-2011 by followtheevidence because: (no reason given)



posted on Dec, 27 2011 @ 03:31 AM
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Originally posted by ThinkinJo
Make our own government, dont trust or vote for anyone they give us, whether he speaks the truth (RON PAUL). They know exactly wat we wanna hear whether he's been doin it for a long time or not, it COULD all be planned.
So reject everything from them, EVERYTHING

let that system go completly down the drain, have some new "founding fathers"

But as far as the plan goes, we gotta hijack our mass media back... somehow..to educate the ones that still care about the stupid stuff they get fed thru the TV

GangBangers are our best actual army right now, they have already been living the anti-gov lifestyle jus misguided
they have been living under the NDAA for along time, so they already go tthat survival instinct that the masses needa catch on to..

we need everyone we can get so lets take all the educated ones, criminals or not and work together
especially the criminals, they can appeal to the people who glorify the "bad boy" mentality and thats exactly what we need.

Just a start....



but you have to be careful because the most successful movements are ones done by those who know how to walk a straight line.

you have to remember networks developed by those who have already experienced some things first hand often become very careful to observe and self preserve to be able to tell the tale of what they learn and they might not interact well with open chaotic gestures from socially aggressive types... but i do agree that some are just not able to direct their energies in a way that makes sense to them instead of opting for the broken system.... because there is not a wide choice there... and to put them to work on something different is a big step.... but when it's critical that those on the bottom do not turn against each other, they need to be able to step in line with those who have lived through more history and experienced things in the world and are careful of that system... because it has bitten some back pretty hard.



posted on Dec, 27 2011 @ 03:48 AM
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FLAG THIS THREAD!

One thing that I think we need to do is spread the word.

How many ATS members do we have around the world?

Imagine if we constructed a document or dvd or powerpoint email and sent this to every one we personally know. Email, post, flyers, stickers, graffiti, whatever.

And if we do do this, we need to unite with GLP and the rest of the forums. It should be a unified, world-wide effort.


 
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posted on Dec, 27 2011 @ 04:00 AM
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As for America. Is there anything in the constitution that says you have to choose between Republicans annd Democrats?

Why not form a third choice, a We The People party? I'd like to hear your thoughts on this.


 
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posted on Dec, 27 2011 @ 04:04 AM
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I have an idea. In the UK we have to be paid through the banks by our employer. What if all working peoples demand payment in cash from their employer?
No Banks Needed Now.
I still believe it's we the people that have the actual physical cash, not the bankers! They have many numbers on a computer screen that gives them a false value all based on speculations that effect their false values.
They get credit & create debt from their false values.
We the people actually have the physical cash.
Demand payment in cash from your employer & take your money out of the banks.
Please continue to pay your bills & debts.
I know this idea may sound kind of base, but we have to do something to save ourselves & this is a completely non violent protest.
Without our money the banks can't play their games & squeeze our balls when they get it wrong.
Just an idea.
You are welcome to pick holes in it or improve it if you can.



posted on Dec, 27 2011 @ 04:23 AM
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The problem is us, mostly everyone of us.
This theory came to me by a fellow ATSer, cant remember the name but this quote was in his sig.
\"Specialists must be despots; men must be specialists. "
from

What's Wrong With The World.
by G.K. Chesterton.
free book here
www.fullbooks.com...

This quote as been running in my head since the day I saw it. Its so true.
Democracy does not exist individualy since we dont care, real busy, trying to be a specialist ourselves.
As a whole, democracy exist but individualy but we all know its a sham, we all know theres no justice with the wars, the corruption, child abuses.
But what can we do, we always say.
I say we stop accepting it.
How?
Protest, go in the street, contact ppl.
Got job an kids, how the hell ima protest.
If i quit, Jimbo is gonna take my place at the shop.
And my wife, me thinks shes already sleeping with Jimbo.
Because Jimbo is despot.

If you end up being a politician, if what it takes to be on top is to lie, after all the efforts you did, with wife n kids the house and everything, you gonna lie.
Behind every politicians theres a despot, no matter how democratic the process is. Its eff up heh!

btw brainstorm for ideas is a good thing, i applause the will.



posted on Dec, 27 2011 @ 05:24 AM
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I honestly think this is a very, very sad thing to say - but its a lost cause.
Almost everyone I know - doesn't care about the real world, or the scary things that are happening in it.
They live in a cocoon of XFactor, I'm a Celebrity, Dancing with the stars and spouting their lives out in short bursts on twitter, or slightly longer bursts on Facebook.
Brain dead - completely.
I have touched on this briefly, but you post anything even remotely not related to how many beers were consumed or such like on FB, and see the zero responses you get. I have several times posted about things like the deepwater disaster, crime, corruption, and nothing.
When MPs were exposed - I was outraged, but the apathy from most people I knew was shocking, and people wonder why they get away with it. Because the unfortunate truth is not enough people, really, really care.
Throw a picture of you staggering out of a bar at 3am and you will get 45 comments and likes!
People, generally are dumbed down to the point of being unable to care beyond those things.
These shows are so clever, they suck people in by basically being on almost the whole year round, when one finishes the next one starts..and people cannot help themselves.
Unless this inane garbage can be cut from our screens and people be relied on to engage the world around them - you can formulate whatever plan you like but people will never get on board.

FB has a lot to answer for - an evil invention that finds people more interesting in writing about their mundane lives, than actually getting out and living it!



posted on Dec, 27 2011 @ 06:11 AM
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thx for participating, since i cant edit my post ill shamelessly bump this thread

The real problem again is
are we ok with loosing freedom of choice for the greater good of a society?
Its highly unlikely, Its not the TVs fault, even if it doesnt help, we are not willing to sacrifice some of our rights.
Like the rights to have firearms or to buy a cars that goes at 300kph even if its both are super dangerous for you.
We simply cant decide for ourselves.
I may sound negative but we need to focus more on ourselves first then the society after.
Not the system, us.



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