reply to post by theRiverGoddess
I read someones post saying that hoarders must have experienced serious 'hunger' in the past, or gone hungry.......I want to semi agree with
Only semi, because I know straight up my mother NEVER wanted for anything, EVER in reality....... but she has a 'hunger' inside herself that is a
severe mental illness. She CRAVES 'things/food/attention' to an extreme.......her hoarded up house is not from any lack of food, its a mental
illness. She is a food addict, she is a kleptomaniac, if her mouth is moving that woman is telling lies.......
I agree with you. The idea of the "Depression Syndrome" is also perhaps one
of the sources for this disorder. But not the only one, and
there are many of us now middle-aged whose parents were raised during the depression. My father's family were unaffected by it that I know of; my
mother's was, to the extent that her father was a job-hopper, they were constantly having to "hide" when repossession agents came to their door, or
to "move" in the middle of the night.
Neither of them suffered from "hoarding", however, to the extremes of these folks on the show. Yes, my dad (Mom discovered as she was sorting
though their storage/workshop area of the basement) was a "pilferer" of tiny bits of machinery or odd tools and fixtures. He was an
engineer...those little items were important for him to have in his possession. Why? Who knows. A quirk of his personality. He had SCADS of hardware
bits and pieces in his workshop.
Mom, on the other hand, who was well-provided for by my father (who was frugal in many ways, but never withheld from her anything she wanted to do,
nor complained when she picked up a new piece of furniture or planned a trip to somewhere,etc), and as an adult never wanted for anything at all, is
overly concerned with "running out of money." She won't, but she worries at the same time that she spends.
reply to post by Sphota
And the worst part is that hoarders are just examples of the extremes, where clearly the people are not well-adjusted to the system and are
obviously major victims...depressed for some reason that is most likely stemming from the same main issue we get the consumerism from.
What I really worry about is the "normal" crowd. The non-hoarders who are still victims of this system and controlled by it. At least with the
hoarders, the social disease comes to a fester and is visible in all its horror. With the other bulk of the population, the rot is so entwined with
our way of life and out look that the same lesser "hoarding" is so common-place that you can't even identify it.
Not sure I agree entirely with this theory either. My impression is that people whose acquisition of things or food or animals or clothing or dolls
or whatever...have a deep "emptiness", an unfulfilled "need", which manifests itself in their compulsive and irresistable accumulation of
Some, yes, have succumbed to advertising and the consumer-culture. Some have a need for competitiveness, or "keeping up with the Joneses" (hence
our Generation -- the last wave of the so-called "Baby Boomers" -- is also known as "Generation Jones". The title also represents the term
"jonesing", which came to be when we were kids -- "jonesing" was "craving" something, or suffering for it's absence).
Yet others were subjected to major losses, or major withholding of affection, or hunger, or deprivation of some kind.
I do think hoarding is an addiction, just as drugs, or eating, or religion, or knitting, or ANY activity or thing that distracts one from pain even
while it prevents functioning well in terms of "normal" standards of adjustment. It is subjective, however. The people engaging in the hoarding or
whatever do not see themselves as "ill", or they might, and not know what to do about it.
In either case, it is interesting and sad. We all have unmet needs.. ALL of us, without exception, and that is, for me, the most fascinating thing
about humanity -- to see how others deal with their sense of something missing in their lives.
Recognizing the pain that others have is an important part of compassion. When their behaviors present a danger to themselves or others, it is clear
that they need help.