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Originally posted by Eurisko2012
reply to post by bluestreak53
I think we will learn more about the Roswell crash after Bob Lazar reopens his website.
- Bob Lazar -
No kidding. And someone involved in that project had to know that they were involved in a clear case of deception and essentially, lying to the Commander in Chief of the US Armed Forces.
Originally posted by Cosmic911
Originally posted by Eurisko2012
reply to post by bluestreak53
I think we will learn more about the Roswell crash after Bob Lazar reopens his website.
- Bob Lazar -
As much as I'd like to believe in Bob's story I just can't. Knowing what we do about government and military compartmentalization, it doesn't seem logical that the government would expose its deepest secrets to an unemployee who only worked for them for 10 days. Regardless, I'm looking forward to his reopened website.
Originally posted by Eurisko2012
Originally posted by Cosmic911
Originally posted by Eurisko2012
reply to post by bluestreak53
I think we will learn more about the Roswell crash after Bob Lazar reopens his website.
- Bob Lazar -
As much as I'd like to believe in Bob's story I just can't. Knowing what we do about government and military compartmentalization, it doesn't seem logical that the government would expose its deepest secrets to an unemployee who only worked for them for 10 days. Regardless, I'm looking forward to his reopened website.
Bob Lazar is a controlled leak. He is just another part of the disclosure process.
His company is doing well.
- United Nuclear -
Originally posted by ProfessorT
Bob Lazar may never be taken as a serious witness which is sad and unfortunate because many Ufologists believe his claims and they do seem credible enough although I seem to remember there were some issues surrounding his education claims, etc. Didn't he take a lie detector as well? He was the first person to really disclose anything from 'the inside' which you could say is the reason we're debating such a topic today - his input changed the world of Ufology for ever.
Originally posted by Eurisko2012
reply to post by Cosmic911
Have you checked out Papoose Lake on Google Earth yet?
The entire mountain range between Groom Lake & Papoose Lake is an underground base.
EG&G built it.
They picked a great hiding spot.
It's just east of the area where they set off hundreds off small nuclear bombs!
It looks like the moon with all of the craters.
Originally posted by filosophia
Good thread op, I am only sure the government is being secretive, but the truth I do not know. Imagine if instead of iran announcing they captured a u.s. drone they said it was a weather balloon? So if the u.s. Captured nazi or russian technolgy, why wouldnt they brag about it like iran did?
That is very interesting about the SR-71 tools! I knew the engineers had to create the tools to make the Black Bird but I didn't know about the destruction. That is so historically interesting!! It's interesting how we had to import all that titanium from Russia; how ironic, huh? lol.
Originally posted by ProfessorT
Bob Lazar may never be taken as a serious witness which is sad and unfortunate because many Ufologists believe his claims and they do seem credible enough although I seem to remember there were some issues surrounding his education claims, etc. Didn't he take a lie detector as well? He was the first person to really disclose anything from 'the inside' which you could say is the reason we're debating such a topic today - his input changed the world of Ufology for ever.
The strategies for dealing with those former servicemen, corporate employees or witnesses brave or ‘foolish’ enough to come forward to reveal classified information is to intimidate, silence, eliminate or discredit these individuals. This policy involves such strategies as removing all public records of former military service men or corporate employees, forcing individuals to make retractions, deliberately distorting statements of individuals, or discrediting individuals. Bob Lazar, for example, claimed to be a former physicist employed with reverse engineering extraterrestrial craft. He described the disappearance of all his university and public records indicating how military-intelligence agencies actively discredit whistleblowers.
Barry Castillio, Lazar's coworker, told the story of an altercation that took place in 1979 between the aliens and the humans at the base. Apparently, the aliens were given a location at the facility to conduct experiments. It was agreed between the aliens and humans that there would be human military guards securing the immediate perimeter. One day, due to the volatility concerns the aliens had over a certain experiment that they were conducting, they demanded that the guards not be present. The concern was that the bullets in their guns and gunbelts would cause a reaction. The guards refused and proceeded to come closer to the danger area. They were immediately terminated by the aliens, later found by two other guards to be lying dead of identical head wounds.
The actions and reactions of these events escalated until 44 military guards were killed. The aliens then killed the scientist they were teaching and left the facility and much of the alien technology behind.
Originally posted by bluestreak53
The "beings" nothing more that cybernetic robots.
The encounter happened in a cave in an abandoned gold mine out in the desert, only a few miles from the range area. Corso perceived a strange presence at the bottom of the cave. There was a humanoid figure that appeared transparent in the dark. Corso felt his mind was connected to that being’s mind. The core of the telepathic connection was reached when the being asked him, “Will you give me 10 minutes, radar free, after green time?” (Green time is a military term for a launch time window.)
Originally posted by Anunaki10
Originally posted by bluestreak53
The "beings" nothing more that cybernetic robots.
In this interview Chief Golden Light Eagle "Standing Elk" mentioned that he was in "contact" with one of the Star races who "told him" of 18 UFO crashes in the United States in 1947 from 10 different star races visiting Earth, because "she" (one of the aliens who piloted one of the crashed UFOs) lost focus for just one second that allowed the combination of Atlantean energies, the experimentation of Radars and lightning storm to cause the UFO's engine/guidance system to malfunction that lead them to crash.
Originally posted by Anunaki10
And not only that. About 41:00 in this Camelot interview with Robert O. Dean, Bob told that Philip Corso had an encounter with an alien being at White Sands who asked him to turn off the radar so he could leave with his UFO, because the radar disturb the UFO's guidance system.
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Originally posted by Cosmic911
Originally posted by A51Watcher
shhhh!
Don't make it too easy for them.
Hmmm...so are you "suggesting" the military was able to "shoot" it down?
Spill the beans! lol
Originally posted by Pimander
I am not prepared to publish all I have on ATS as that would mean I cannot claim exclusive rights to the material in negotiations with publishers. However, see also US attempts to shoot down flying disks
Originally posted by Cosmic911
It doesn't sound like there was an intact fuselage or large portions of the aircraft, that maybe they completely disintegrated? In fact, it sounds like it was nothing but debris that was transported to Wright Field. It wasn't completely obvious to the people analyzing the material what it was. And if we had any substantial portions of the craft intact, Wright Field would have been the obvious facility at the time.
Originally posted by Eurisko2012
Yes, there was the debris field about 75 miles north of Roswell, MN
but a damaged Gray Top Hat spacecraft made a controlled landing just north of
Magdalena, New Mexico. The U.S. Army showed up and threatened everyone.
The spacecraft was placed on a flat bed truck and moved to Albuquerque,NM
- Los Alamos National laboratory - The nearest, secure government facility.