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What Really Happened in Roswell 1947?

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posted on Jan, 7 2012 @ 02:13 PM
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You need to get your calculator out.


1991 was 20 years ago.

Just think it through.



posted on Jan, 7 2012 @ 02:39 PM
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Originally posted by Eurisko2012
1991 was 20 years ago.

Nope. 1991 is 21 years ago. And if you go back to the previous page you will see i wrote 1981


And may i ask, what is so special about the year 1981 for you, since you mention it?

I'm waiting for your answers for the questions i asked you, and i'm sure there may be others who also are waiting for your answers as well...

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posted on Jan, 7 2012 @ 02:56 PM
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Originally posted by Eurisko2012

Let me guess, since you don't bother to answer my questions you're just wasting your time here for nothing!



posted on Jan, 7 2012 @ 03:27 PM
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Originally posted by Anunaki10

Originally posted by Eurisko2012

Let me guess, since you don't bother to answer my questions you're just wasting your time here for nothing!


It's all disinformation.

I'm just doing my job.

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Had you going there.

For more info watch StarGate SG-1.



posted on Jan, 8 2012 @ 10:13 AM
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Originally posted by Eurisko2012
It's all disinformation. I'm just doing my job.


So your job is to do disinfo job, cool job you have!
Are you hired by the United States Secret Shadow Government ?



For more info watch StarGate SG-1.

SG-1 series or Stargate movie , or Project Stargate case from the real world? Do you prefer to talk about Stargate? How about Roswell, are you not interested to talk about what really happened at Roswell ?
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posted on Jan, 8 2012 @ 03:56 PM
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Originally posted by Anunaki10
How about Roswell, are you not interested to talk about what really happened at Roswell ?
Please, can we?


I think you might have scared a few off. I'm not sure whether it was the Zetas, Jimmy Carter, Dulce or what. I can't remember where we got to about actual Roswell. Lost that.



posted on Jan, 8 2012 @ 07:48 PM
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I know the GAO reported that all records pertaining to the incident had been inappropriately destroyed, but has there been any mention of flight manifests for the transports to Ft. Worth and Wright Field?



posted on Jan, 8 2012 @ 08:14 PM
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I have read and researched on the Horton Brothers for a few years, and recently I purchased the new "Area 51" book by Annie Johnson and the subject about Roswell and the Hortons come up frequently in that, as well as a ton of other interesting things. I wanted to start a thread on some parts in the book as soon as I rise up in rank here at ATS and am able to start threads. What's your opinions about this. reply to post by Anunaki10
 



posted on Jan, 8 2012 @ 11:19 PM
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Could the Grey Aliens craft be suitable for the moon? Any correlation for the description of the craft and what we know about the moon? Or do you think the Roswell craft came from a different Star or Galaxy?



posted on Jan, 8 2012 @ 11:46 PM
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What happened at Roswell?....exactly what was printed in the news the next day ALiens crashed, up until that pivitol point the press was not as censored as they are today. The Media told the truth because they were told the truth by goverment officials. That mistake will never happen again, the Govt must be pullng there hair out becuse thats one story they cant sweep under the bead away to be forgotten.



posted on Jan, 9 2012 @ 02:53 AM
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Originally posted by game over man
Could the Grey Aliens craft be suitable for the moon?

Zetans on the Moon


Some of these star wars were fought on Earth in ancient times when colonies from different planets fought for our planet to try to take control. The Pleideans from planet Erra, humans from a spaceport on Venus, Sethians, Centaurians and beings from the reported 12th planet in our system were involved in these battles on Earth and were mostly driven off the planet (except for remaining secret underground cities and bases all of those civilizations still have on Earth). The Zetans now have a spaceport on the hidden dark side of the Moon, and many underground cities there too. They also have scientific, military, and mining stations on the surface of the Moon. So Americans and Russians can’t just fly up there and plant their flags and say, “hey, this is ours!” (like they are used to doing after invading other countries on Earth).

Government agents have been forced to do everything they can theorize or scam on, to make it look like the Moon is a dead world impossible to inhabit. What they do not tell you is that ZETANS do not need an atmosphere like ours to breath because ZETANS do not have lungs. They do not need to irrigate and grow crops because Zetans have no digestive systems. They do not need to worry about being too hot or cold because they have incredibly thick tough skin... like reptiles only more extreme and much tougher... and are cold-blooded... the sun, heat, and cold on the Moon do not damage their skin.

In fact, they would DIE IN OUR EARTH ATMOSPHERE without a space suit, like they did after emerging from those crashed flying saucers... because our Earth atmosphere is poisonous to Zetans. The atmosphere in one of their planets, orbiting a dying red star sun, is composed of elements like sulfur and carbon monoxide... described by some scientists like the runaway greenhouse effect of out of control pollution Zetans would like on Earth for themselves. They cannot live on the surface of Earth without creating genetic sub-human hybrids in laboratories... part them and part us. So they live in underground cities in the United States, Soviet Union, Moon, Mars and certain asteroids off Jupiter.



Any correlation for the description of the craft and what we know about the moon?

Lunar surface 1969, Neil Armstrong: >>God, what is that out there?... What is that???... But this is unbelievable!...Whats there? Mission Control calling Apollo 11...>Whats there? Mission Control calling Apollo 11...>These "Babies" are huge, Sir! Enormous! OH MY GOD! You wouldn't believe it! I'm telling you there are other spacecraft out there, Lined up on the far side of the crater edge! They're on the Moon watching us!>What REALLY happened out there with Apollo 11?>It was incredible, of course we had always known there was a possibility, the fact is, we were
warned off! (by the Aliens). There was never any question then of a space station or a moon city.>How do you mean "warned off"?>I can't go into details, except to say that their ships were far superior to ours both in size and
technology - Boy, were they big! and menacing! No, there is no question of a space station.>But NASA had other missions after Apollo 11?>Naturally - NASA was committed at that time, and couldn't risk panic on Earth. But it really was a quick scoop and back again.



posted on Jan, 9 2012 @ 07:00 AM
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By the way, the 1994 TV movie Roswell, in which Kyle MacLachlan played Jesse Marcel, is on YouTube in nine parts. Here's the link to part 1, and the rest will be there to click on. Total running time is 90 minutes.

www.youtube.com...



posted on Jan, 9 2012 @ 08:36 AM
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Originally posted by xpoq47
By the way, the 1994 TV movie Roswell, in which Kyle MacLachlan played Jesse Marcel, is on YouTube in nine parts. Here's the link to part 1, and the rest will be there to click on. Total running time is 90 minutes.
www.youtube.com...

And from about 3:10 in that "Roswell - The UFO Cover up, Part 1" it states >This is based on events that happened near Roswel, NM



posted on Jan, 9 2012 @ 08:43 AM
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Originally posted by Cosmic911

I know the GAO reported that all records pertaining to the incident had been inappropriately destroyed, but has there been any mention of flight manifests for the transports to Ft. Worth and Wright Field?
Even if they do still exist, they will be pretty meaningless if you think about it. Documents from 1947 flights aren't going to say the payload was the "one fuselage of a flying disk" or "several 4 foot humanoid corpses - hairless, oversized heads - definitely not shaved chimps, handicapped Japanese people or crash test dummies from the future." LOL

There were probably regular flights to other Army Air Force bases so the fact that planes flew to those bases will have little value anyway.



posted on Jan, 9 2012 @ 10:21 AM
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Originally posted by Cosmic911
I know the GAO reported that all records pertaining to the incident had been inappropriately destroyed, but has there been any mention of flight manifests for the transports to Ft. Worth and Wright Field?

There was unusual military activity at Roswell at the time, like the whole place was on alert. I doubt they would use transport airplanes to transport Mogul material to Fort Worth and Wright Field.


1st Lt. Chester P. Barton: A crypto specialist and assigned to an MP unit, Barton said he was ordered to the crash site 45 minutes north of town to check on the cleanup, saw a football-field-size burn impact area heavily guarded by MPs, scattered metal debris, was told radiation was at the site, heard archeologists had first discovered it, and also heard bodies were taken to base hospital and then to Fort Worth. Because of what he saw, he knew that the balloon explanation was ridiculous and there had been a cover-up.
Chester Lytle: The nuclear engineer who built the first A-bomb implosion detonator revealed being told by Roswell base commander William Blanchard, a personal friend, that Roswell was an alien spacecraft crash and four bodies had been recovered. All were eventually taken to Wright-Patterson for study in a highly secure facility. He personally knew the general in charge. He also learned from other sources who had seen the bodies results of the autopsies done.
Brig. Gen. Thomas Dubose: Gen. Ramey's Chief of Staff in 1947, Dubose handled the high-level phone communications between Roswell, Fort Worth, and Washington. Dubose went on record many times about the high secrecy involved (including the matter going directly to the White House), receiving direct orders from Washington to instigate a cover-up, Gen. Ramey's weather balloon cover story, and a highly secret shipment of debris from Roswell to Fort Worth, Washington, and Wright Field.
Sgt. Robert Slusher and PFC Lloyd Thompson: Crew members on a mysterious B-29 flight from Roswell to Fort Worth on July 9, 1947, transporting a large wooden crate in the bombbay surrounded by an armed guard. Upon arrival, the plane was met by high brass and a mortician. This is probably the flight referred to in the Ramey memo that would ship whatever was "in the 'disc'" to Fort Worth by a B-29 Special Transport plane.
Henderson was one of the senior pilots at Roswell. When the first public stories of a Roswell saucer crash began circulating in 1981, Henderson confided to family and friends of being the pilot who flew bodies of the aliens and crash wreckage to Wright Field. He also claimed to have seen the craft and bodies, and provided a description of the aliens.
Sgt. Robert E. Smith: A member of an air transport unit at Roswell, Smith said he helped load crates filled with debris for transport by C-54's, including one flown by Henderson and his crew. Smith was also among the witnesses to describe the mysterious "memory foil" which he said was in the crates. He further described strangers to the base dressed in plainclothes and flashing ID cards for some unknown project, perhaps part of the special CIC-team mentioned in the Ramey memo and by Frank Kaufmann. Finally he claimed that distant cousin of his was with the Secret Service and was there at the base representing President Truman.
Lt. Robert Shirkey: Then the assistant operations officer, Shirkey witnessed the loading of the B-29 that took Major Marcel to Fort Worth to see Gen. Ramey. He said he saw boxes of debris being carried on board, including an I-beam with raised markings and a large piece of metal, brushed stainless steel in color, obviously not part of a tinfoil radar target. He was told it was from a flying saucer.
Sgt. Robert Porter: Was on Marcel's flight to Fort Worth and was handed wrapped packages of debris samples. Said that flight was piloted by Deputy base commander Jennings. He was told on board that the crash material was from a flying saucer. Later, they told him it was a weather balloon. Said debris was loaded onto another plane.



posted on Jan, 9 2012 @ 01:04 PM
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I know the GAO reported that all records pertaining to the incident had been inappropriately destroyed, but has there been any mention of flight manifests for the transports to Ft. Worth and Wright Field?


Those flights were reported in the press. Such as the story featuring the pics of the guys around the weather balloon debris.



posted on Jan, 9 2012 @ 02:01 PM
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Originally posted by Ops4Ops
I have read and researched on the Horton Brothers for a few years, and recently I purchased the new "Area 51" book by Annie Johnson and the subject about Roswell and the Hortons come up frequently in that, as well as a ton of other interesting things. I wanted to start a thread on some parts in the book as soon as I rise up in rank here at ATS and am able to start threads. What's your opinions about this?

First, are you sure Annie Johnson made any book about Area 51?
What can i say about Horton Brothers? Or is it Horton or Horten? Not much, i guess, hmm... The Nazis reportedly recovered a crashed alien spacecraft and tried to make copy of it... And Dr. Wernher Von Braun reportedly witnessed one of the crashed UFOs and the alien bodies with reptilian like skin at Roswell, also similar reptilian like skin described in the Roswell movie as well...



posted on Jan, 9 2012 @ 02:05 PM
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Originally posted by RigZoomAlaska
Those flights were reported in the press. Such as the story featuring the pics of the guys around the weather balloon debris.

'RigZoomAlaska', the movie "The Fourth Kind" (based on real events about some people at Alaska reportedly abducted) is a good movie.


Do you mean Jesse Marcel Sr. posing with the false "debris" on the photos? Yeah, Marcel Sr. was ordered to pose with that false "debris" of ordinary tin foil against his own will.
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posted on Jan, 9 2012 @ 06:49 PM
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Originally posted by RigZoomAlaska
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I know the GAO reported that all records pertaining to the incident had been inappropriately destroyed, but has there been any mention of flight manifests for the transports to Ft. Worth and Wright Field?


Those flights were reported in the press. Such as the story featuring the pics of the guys around the weather balloon debris.


I'm talking about official military transport documents. Flight manifest and flight paperwork is required every time an aircraft takes flight and must be recorded by the pilot.



posted on Jan, 10 2012 @ 12:10 AM
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Originally posted by Anunaki10

Originally posted by RigZoomAlaska
Those flights were reported in the press. Such as the story featuring the pics of the guys around the weather balloon debris.

'RigZoomAlaska', the movie "The Fourth Kind" (based on real events about some people at Alaska reportedly abducted) is a good movie.



No, "The Fourth Kind" is not based on anything real. It was a totally fictitious story. They were actually charged for using false and misleading information to promote this crappy "Blair Witch" wanna be movie. There are people who disappeared in that Alaska town, but none of the disappearances have in any way been connected with "alien abductions".

You won't look so gullible if you try to exercise the slightest bit of discretion in vetting your source material. As it is, you are effectively operating as a disinformation agent as you mix so much unsubstantiated material with what are the more reliable facts involved in the original Roswell case.

Of course, I must apologize if that is in fact your intention.




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