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Did Anonymous make donations to charity using stolen credit card info?

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posted on Dec, 27 2011 @ 06:28 AM
Then you wonder why the banks hike up thier CC fees and the CC companies hike up their fees.

No, Can't condone this action because I think it affects everyone in the end.

They have to replace the money lost somehow and what better way to do that, then through fees of using the CC or fees for using the ATM.

posted on Dec, 27 2011 @ 06:32 AM
reply to post by Manhater

they don't care because the cc's dont care. i guess they figure we're just here to be robbed, so might as well jump on the bandwagon. good thing i don't have much left to rob anymore.

posted on Dec, 27 2011 @ 07:45 AM
reply to post by LiveEquation

hahahaha i hope they did, not like the credit card a-holes will lose money anyway it's a 100% profit business it's about time somebody fleeced them in stead of them fleecing us.

posted on Dec, 27 2011 @ 07:54 AM
Groups that would use an "ends justify the means" mentality are not a group worthy of recognition (yes, I am looking at you Republicrats).

posted on Dec, 27 2011 @ 12:46 PM

Originally posted by babloyi
With all this repetition about "stealing from the average joe", I think it might do good to clarify (what many people have already said here, although their words may be falling through the cracks,) that...

The "Average Joe" isn't going to lose any money. Since all the names stolen from were reported, the cardholders AREN'T the ones who will pay. It'll be the credit card companies.

It's a little more complex than that. First of all, the average Joe (that would be me) has to realize the problem, cancel the card, get any erroneous charges reversed, and undergo the hassle of getting a new card. Secondly, not having a card is not an option on the Internet. There are many places where a card is the only option for payment. You can't just send a check, or if you can, you undergo a lengthy delay. Third, it is NOT the credit card companies who will pay. They will reverse the "donations" these jerks made so that the charities will wind up without the money.

This is a really important point that some folks obviously don't get. The credit card companies will reverse these charges. The Red Cross doesn't get to keep this money they fraudulently received.

If you have ever had your card compromised, you will know what a hassle it is. It's not just the sums involved. It costs money to fix this stuff, if not in $$ then in time spent squaring everything away. I don't know about you, but my time is worth money. Obviously the consumer can take steps to minimize risk.

1) Never store a card. This is easier said than done. For some toll roads, for example, if you want a "Good to Go" Pass, a card is required, or you will spend twice as much on tolls to do it manually.

2) get a very low-limit card. This limits your liability. You don't want to use a card with a $25,000 limit.

3) Get online access to your card information. I was able to call up my card account and verify the latest charges made to it. If you don't bother with online access, you really don't have access to real-time information. I was able to cancel my card before "anonymous" got a chance to dictate which charities they decided I should donate to.

Ironically, this kind of attack will make security stronger. Certainly Stratfor will not make this kind of mistake again, and ATS has been very stable these last few years since they were taken down by someone who basically just didn't like ATS.

Frankly, it angers me when some young punks try to dictate to me that I should not use a credit card because that benefits the banks. If you want something so badly that you have to have it before you can afford it and use a card to get it, i.e.: Borrow monery to get the latest iPod, then the bank DESERVES a cut because you can't seem to restrain yourself to wait until you have the money to buy it. But people are quite capable of using credit wisely. Wanna know how much interest I've paid to credit card companies in the last, say, ten years? Zero.

I think it is a serious mistake to just say Stratfor is a Bad Guy(tm) because you say they are, therefore they deserve this. As a customer I can make this case because they didn't do a very good job of protecting themselves and me, but the bottom line is that this is a small business that employees a couple dozen people. If this kind of small business is to "deserve" attack, what about you? You work for someone, don't you? If not, your Daddy does. How about let's take you down next? I'll just sit out here and make a 'moral judgment' about you because I don't like your attitude, which you've expressed here. In other words,

you are next.

posted on Dec, 27 2011 @ 12:51 PM
These people need to be locked up and put in jail cells with big hairy dudes named Bob or John...for atleast 20-30 years.

Thanks to anonymous be prepared for a new "cyber security" laws..

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