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Are the stories of 911 "jumpers" true?

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posted on Dec, 26 2011 @ 11:34 PM
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Originally posted by septic
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Thanks, any thoughts on the topic or is our session just about up?

You tell me dude. Look at the response you are getting... are we learning yet?




posted on Dec, 26 2011 @ 11:34 PM
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Originally posted by curious7

Originally posted by jeichelberg
I do not know where all these videos are surfacing from...When I watched the coverage that day, all I saw was one person jump from the buildings...


I watched from the moments before the second plane hit and I definitely saw more than one person jumping.

Are people really trying to argue that those jumpers were holograms to instill fear now?

Dear lord, the depths people will sink just to cope with what happened that day.

Net you'll be trying to say the Japanese earthquake was a psy-op so we can all invade Tokyo by February...


More glittering generalities? Can folks just stick to the topic please? If you think you saw something, fine...but the nature of propaganda is to manage perception, and since the topic deals with propaganda, please try to provide something other than more propaganda...

Okay, some people say they saw people jump, I'm asking for proof...any single genuine image will do. So far all I've seen are fakes, which somehow really makes people angry at me...why, I don't know; I didn't fake the pictures. I also don't know how faked pictures make the jumper meme more believable, but then this is America.



posted on Dec, 26 2011 @ 11:37 PM
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Hooper, I believe you hit the nail on the head. Fear causes frenzy. They do a better job controlling with lies. How are you supposed to control someone when they are scared and erratic? You can't. Fuel them with a sense of security and hope, and they'll be putty in your hand.

Good Ol Dave, I agree that a lot of people get too wrapped up in the excitement of a good conspiracy. I believe that people jumped...I would have. However, you got to give people a break. I mean, we are all here on a CONSPIRACY WEBSITE. Even if it's an outrageous claim, people like the excitement of a conspiracy.



posted on Dec, 26 2011 @ 11:39 PM
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I believe that 9/11 was a set up, but not everything was a set up that day, the jumpers, and there is an entire movie on this posted in this thread on them, was a spontaneous act of desperation. I remember very clearly the couple the joined hands and jumped together, it was seen by other office workers in adjoining buildings.

I even agree with "goodoldave" for once, denying that people were jumping that day makes the truthers look insane.
Don't waste your time with the minutia of idiocy for 9/11, concentrate on the stuff like WTC7.



posted on Dec, 26 2011 @ 11:39 PM
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You tell me dude. Look at the response you are getting... are we learning yet?


Yes, I've noticed. Its positively dogmatic.

So, nothing to add then...I get the feeling you wouldn't want me to speak for you.



posted on Dec, 26 2011 @ 11:40 PM
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Son, you have lost sight of the truth.

I hope that someday you see the error of your ways, and it is not too late to fix it.

Whether you allow me to 'be horrified' or not, your pretty youtube video does not negate the terrifying and nightmarish experience that we lived through on that day, and your whole demeanor is the epitome of disrespect to those who didn't.

Good luck.



posted on Dec, 26 2011 @ 11:41 PM
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Originally posted by Blue_Jay33
I believe that 9/11 was a set up, but not everything was a set up that day, the jumpers, and there is an entire movie on this posted in this thread on them, was a spontaneous act of desperation. I remember very clearly the couple the joined hands and jumped together, it was seen by other office workers in adjoining buildings.

I even agree with "goodoldave" for once, denying that people were jumping that day makes the truthers look insane.
Don't waste your time with the minutia of idiocy for 9/11, concentrate on the stuff like WTC7.


So you're saying I'm crazy for not believing the jumper stories in spite of all the evidence the claim is a fraud.

What a world, eh?



posted on Dec, 26 2011 @ 11:42 PM
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Originally posted by septic

Originally posted by curious7

Originally posted by jeichelberg
I do not know where all these videos are surfacing from...When I watched the coverage that day, all I saw was one person jump from the buildings...


I watched from the moments before the second plane hit and I definitely saw more than one person jumping.

Are people really trying to argue that those jumpers were holograms to instill fear now?

Dear lord, the depths people will sink just to cope with what happened that day.

Net you'll be trying to say the Japanese earthquake was a psy-op so we can all invade Tokyo by February...


More glittering generalities? Can folks just stick to the topic please? If you think you saw something, fine...but the nature of propaganda is to manage perception, and since the topic deals with propaganda, please try to provide something other than more propaganda...

Okay, some people say they saw people jump, I'm asking for proof...any single genuine image will do. So far all I've seen are fakes, which somehow really makes people angry at me...why, I don't know; I didn't fake the pictures. I also don't know how faked pictures make the jumper meme more believable, but then this is America.



Why is it more important for you to see pictures of what somebody saw rather than the story from the witness who observed it? Nobody has pictures here okay? But if you listen with your heart you will hear truth in their words as they relive the memory to tell you what they saw. Where is your heart??? Your militant denial here is getting old and your pissing a lot of people off with your disrespect. Im not sure you can even understand where we are coming from. We are real people typing these words on screen. We are not fake. We are not robots like you appear to be...Soooo we do not have what you want so now what do you do? Do you become flexible with your thread or keep pounding away and continue to ruin your reputation?



posted on Dec, 26 2011 @ 11:43 PM
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posted on Dec, 26 2011 @ 11:47 PM
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Originally posted by jimnuggits
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Son, you have lost sight of the truth.

I hope that someday you see the error of your ways, and it is not too late to fix it.

Whether you allow me to 'be horrified' or not, your pretty youtube video does not negate the terrifying and nightmarish experience that we lived through on that day, and your whole demeanor is the epitome of disrespect to those who didn't.

Good luck.


Son, what was it about the images that were genuine? What does it say about someone who needs to believe in mass suicides in spite of the volumes of evidence that disprove the claim?

All I get is the outrage I say WAAAY back in the OP was the very intent of the jumper story to begin with.

None of you with the crocodile tears have been able to figure out that your outrage supports my premise. YOU are so sure of yourselves you don't even glance at the evidence of fraud, in fact the fraud doesn't even matter. All that matters is that someone dared to point it out, is that it?



posted on Dec, 26 2011 @ 11:53 PM
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What in the h3ll are you talking about?

I, me, personally, saw people jump out of their office windows and hit the ground.

I don't need some third party to deconstruct some video a decade after the fact to know this particular aspect of what happened that day.

What part of that are you not getting?



posted on Dec, 26 2011 @ 11:53 PM
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Originally posted by septic

Originally posted by jimnuggits
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Son, you have lost sight of the truth.

I hope that someday you see the error of your ways, and it is not too late to fix it.

Whether you allow me to 'be horrified' or not, your pretty youtube video does not negate the terrifying and nightmarish experience that we lived through on that day, and your whole demeanor is the epitome of disrespect to those who didn't.

Good luck.


Son, what was it about the images that were genuine? What does it say about someone who needs to believe in mass suicides in spite of the volumes of evidence that disprove the claim?

All I get is the outrage I say WAAAY back in the OP was the very intent of the jumper story to begin with.

None of you with the crocodile tears have been able to figure out that your outrage supports my premise. YOU are so sure of yourselves you don't even glance at the evidence of fraud, in fact the fraud doesn't even matter. All that matters is that someone dared to point it out, is that it?



So it's x because it couldn't y?

www.abovetopsecret.com...
www.abovetopsecret.com...
www.abovetopsecret.com...

And you wonder why you piss people off? Read those threads real good. Point is, YOU are so sure of yourself that you don't even glance at the truth that hits you in the face. You really are 100% sure that the things you've been told are the truth and that none of the actual truth is real. You need medical help. It's called paranoia and now you're boasting about your paranoia. It's annoying. It's pissing not only me, but many others off too.



posted on Dec, 26 2011 @ 11:56 PM
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Originally posted by Starwise

Originally posted by septic

Originally posted by curious7

Originally posted by jeichelberg
I do not know where all these videos are surfacing from...When I watched the coverage that day, all I saw was one person jump from the buildings...


I watched from the moments before the second plane hit and I definitely saw more than one person jumping.

Are people really trying to argue that those jumpers were holograms to instill fear now?

Dear lord, the depths people will sink just to cope with what happened that day.

Net you'll be trying to say the Japanese earthquake was a psy-op so we can all invade Tokyo by February...


More glittering generalities? Can folks just stick to the topic please? If you think you saw something, fine...but the nature of propaganda is to manage perception, and since the topic deals with propaganda, please try to provide something other than more propaganda...

Okay, some people say they saw people jump, I'm asking for proof...any single genuine image will do. So far all I've seen are fakes, which somehow really makes people angry at me...why, I don't know; I didn't fake the pictures. I also don't know how faked pictures make the jumper meme more believable, but then this is America.



Why is it more important for you to see pictures of what somebody saw rather than the story from the witness who observed it? Nobody has pictures here okay? But if you listen with your heart you will hear truth in their words as they relive the memory to tell you what they saw. Where is your heart??? Your militant denial here is getting old and your pissing a lot of people off with your disrespect. Im not sure you can even understand where we are coming from. We are real people typing these words on screen. We are not fake. We are not robots like you appear to be...Soooo we do not have what you want so now what do you do? Do you become flexible with your thread or keep pounding away and continue to ruin your reputation?


Why does your need to believe this story override the necessity to answer the question why any single image would be fraudulent, much less every single one?

The images are fraudulent, and yet they were plastered all over Life Magazine with the intent to horrify and traumatize.

And I'm the bad guy.



posted on Dec, 26 2011 @ 11:57 PM
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Jumpers were photo shopped? Guess you had to pay off the fireman too, along with everyone who was at ground level. Some pretty good holographic technology

www.liveleak.com...

www.liveleak.com...

*Graphic videos



posted on Dec, 26 2011 @ 11:58 PM
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I've read through this whole thread and I can't figure out what the OP is trying to say. Are you saying that the people shown jumping from the towers were fake?

If that is the case, then do you believe that no one jumped?

Did anyone, in your opinion, actually die on September 11th?



posted on Dec, 26 2011 @ 11:59 PM
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Were there real jumpers?

Yes.

Are the photo's of the jumpers photoshopped.

Yes.

Can we move on now?



posted on Dec, 26 2011 @ 11:59 PM
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Originally posted by jimnuggits
reply to post by septic
 


What in the h3ll are you talking about?

I, me, personally, saw people jump out of their office windows and hit the ground.

I don't need some third party to deconstruct some video a decade after the fact to know this particular aspect of what happened that day.

What part of that are you not getting?



What part of the OP are you not getting, or the post where I was asking for any images that have not been proved fraudulent?

Fine, you say the jumper story is true, but you'll forgive me if I don't believe you...you see, every image I've seen has been a fake so I'm trying to find something more substantial than more hearsay.



posted on Dec, 27 2011 @ 12:00 AM
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Originally posted by septic

Originally posted by Starwise

Originally posted by septic

Originally posted by curious7

Originally posted by jeichelberg
I do not know where all these videos are surfacing from...When I watched the coverage that day, all I saw was one person jump from the buildings...


I watched from the moments before the second plane hit and I definitely saw more than one person jumping.

Are people really trying to argue that those jumpers were holograms to instill fear now?

Dear lord, the depths people will sink just to cope with what happened that day.

Net you'll be trying to say the Japanese earthquake was a psy-op so we can all invade Tokyo by February...


More glittering generalities? Can folks just stick to the topic please? If you think you saw something, fine...but the nature of propaganda is to manage perception, and since the topic deals with propaganda, please try to provide something other than more propaganda...

Okay, some people say they saw people jump, I'm asking for proof...any single genuine image will do. So far all I've seen are fakes, which somehow really makes people angry at me...why, I don't know; I didn't fake the pictures. I also don't know how faked pictures make the jumper meme more believable, but then this is America.



Why is it more important for you to see pictures of what somebody saw rather than the story from the witness who observed it? Nobody has pictures here okay? But if you listen with your heart you will hear truth in their words as they relive the memory to tell you what they saw. Where is your heart??? Your militant denial here is getting old and your pissing a lot of people off with your disrespect. Im not sure you can even understand where we are coming from. We are real people typing these words on screen. We are not fake. We are not robots like you appear to be...Soooo we do not have what you want so now what do you do? Do you become flexible with your thread or keep pounding away and continue to ruin your reputation?


Why does your need to believe this story override the necessity to answer the question why any single image would be fraudulent, much less every single one?

The images are fraudulent, and yet they were plastered all over Life Magazine with the intent to horrify and traumatize.

And I'm the bad guy.


But you have no legitimate proof they were fradulent do you?



posted on Dec, 27 2011 @ 12:00 AM
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posted on Dec, 27 2011 @ 12:02 AM
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Originally posted by septic

Originally posted by jimnuggits
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What in the h3ll are you talking about?

I, me, personally, saw people jump out of their office windows and hit the ground.

I don't need some third party to deconstruct some video a decade after the fact to know this particular aspect of what happened that day.

What part of that are you not getting?



What part of the OP are you not getting, or the post where I was asking for any images that have not been proved fraudulent?

Fine, you say the jumper story is true, but you'll forgive me if I don't believe you...you see, every image I've seen has been a fake so I'm trying to find something more substantial than more hearsay.


And were is the proof that the photos you've seen were fake? All I've seen was real photos with real people. Not to mention I was there. Easy for me to believe. Not just me but for all that were there, and watched the live coverage too. What? Are you going to try to debunk live broadcast too? Is this what it's about? You're another media fakery troll too?



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