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Seniors and Survival

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posted on Dec, 26 2011 @ 06:22 AM
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SO many aging parents are on a boatload of medications. Other than the obvious herbal remedies to replace those meds should the need arise, I am looking for advice on caring for aging parents who are on multiple medications.




posted on Dec, 26 2011 @ 06:55 AM
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As much as you would like to care for your parents in a survival situation it is not practical to think long range care for them.

I am old. I will not leave my home if TSHTF.

I am dependent on medications and machines to keep my quality of life enjoyable and comfortable.

As much as it would hurt you to leave your loved ones behind, you younger people must do what you need to do to keep yourself and children safe.

If you can stay where you are then use what medications you have and let nature take it's course with your older family members.

That won't be easy in my case as my children will not want to leave me behind.
They will have to bury my dead body before I will allow them to drag me with them to a safer place.

Enjoy your older loved ones right now while you can.
Learn as much as possible from them and take notes too.

We oldies aren't going to live a good quality of life on the run.
When the time comes to flee say bye and run with the wind and don't look back.

On a side note, I am making preparations to take care of myself as long as I can should it become necesary.

The secret to living life is to live it with gusto until you die.
That is for both young and older folks.



posted on Dec, 26 2011 @ 07:18 AM
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i got abuse for this last time - but just accept that people are going to die , simples



posted on Dec, 26 2011 @ 07:28 AM
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Age is not really the issue. There are young people who are dependent on medication to survive. Type 1 diabetics for example. Some people are going to die when the SHTF. Some immediately and some in the weeks and months after. I am sorry, but it is inevitable. Would you prefer to continue a life in chains? From time to time the tree of liberty must be refreshed with the blood of patriots and tyrants. Unfortunately, the innocent are also caught up in this watering.



posted on Dec, 26 2011 @ 07:30 AM
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Dizziedame is exactly right, My situation is very similar to hers and even though I am a former survival instructor I cannot live outdoors on the run without medications. "letting nature take it's course" would be a horrible way for some of us to go and I would hope that someone would have the intestinal fortitude to not leave me to die a slow, miserable death. Every case is different but remember that those of us well up in years have had full lives and if we cannot contribute then we should be left behind. As Dizzie said: "Do what you must".
There might not be a harder decision to ever make but you owe it to the younger generations to give them the best chance of survival.



posted on Dec, 26 2011 @ 08:01 AM
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im 50 my husband is 57 realizing our ages we been preparing age appropriate. We are in rural area and won't go anywhere, expecting the worse hopping we can stay safe and fit. One benefit in my favor, im not on any medications, if the city dwellers don't find us I think we stand a little chance.



posted on Dec, 26 2011 @ 08:50 AM
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I have to agree with the others. You are going to have to accept that those who have medical needs, will have to be left behind.

I am med dependant myself, so I have often wondered about this.

If it is a short term disaster, some states like mine have a clause that allows you to refill meds early if a potential disaster is coming. Speak to your states insurance agency. (not one that is commonly heard of

and see if there are any directions for this in case of emergencies.

If your state does have such a plan, get the information because the insurance companies may not know about it.



posted on Dec, 26 2011 @ 09:28 AM
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While I'm constantly using prescriptions from four different specialists for pulmonary, arterial, spinal and endocrine problems - about 16+ pills a day, three injections and a couple of pin pricks for glucose testing - I don't really consider that my long term health would be significantly impaired beyond its' current state. I've stated on many occasions that we all have delusions (choose yours carefully) and this may be my personal delusion. But recently we traveled overseas and my diabetes meds were lost in the autopark for the duration of the trip. I didn't die. My glucose vitals didn't change much - my diet changed as did my exercise level so there were some natural compensations with regards to my endocrine imbalance. Many of the other prescriptions are for a heart condition that is completely stable and normal functioning, yet I still "need" blood thinners, hypertension and chlosterol drugs according to my doctors. The inhalers I use to breathe are mostly preventative and my need for steroidal immediate relief inhalers is minimal - typically I discard nearly full inhalers after a year when the prescriptions expire (just like my nitro pills for angina).

There is absolutely no question that those of us with physical impairments will expire more quickly than if we had all the advantages of technology at our disposal in a survival situation. And I have no argument that the life expectancy of many persons with more serious health problems requiring machines to extend their lives will unfortunately be greatly or immediately reduced. The thinking one carries forward into such a situation will be the determining factor in their ultimate survival or time of their own choosing in their demise.

ganjoa



posted on Dec, 26 2011 @ 06:06 PM
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I agree with this posters comments. I am 58 years of age and i am dependent on medications. Doctors have told me that I will dead within about 10 days of running out of them. But I am also fortunate in that I wil die a painless death as my heart rate will just continue to slow until it stops.

I would also go so far as to suggest that you investigage if there is a way you take your elderly parents out peacefully with an injection or pill before you have to flee. no point in leaving them to the scumbags.



posted on Dec, 27 2011 @ 04:27 AM
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wow! sad as is, I beleive most of you are right, in that very elderly, very sick and very medically dependant people will go first. I guess the only thing we can hope for is that they have a way to go as peacefully as possible and without pain.



posted on Dec, 27 2011 @ 04:56 AM
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I'm 39 and very dependent on medication to survive and there is no way id make it without them for even a week before death ..I would not be able to contribute and i expect to be left behind i would not want to hold anyone behind im also on machines to extend my life..Its sad but true its the cold hard facts my lungs would shut down and i would just die ..I would want my family to move on and take there chance for survival..peace,sugarcookie1



posted on Dec, 27 2011 @ 05:09 AM
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will it, get mad, start doing yoga, look for cheap alternatives. that's all I can say. I do not go to doctors... unless it's the ER and i haven't had to do that in a while (wreck, not my fault and not bad) that's the only time i see a doctor... if i need to prove liability or if i am seriously injured or about to die. Dentists, on the other hand, I love to go to the dentist on the rare occasion that i can.



posted on Dec, 27 2011 @ 05:18 AM
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I'm 61. I am not on meds but nor am I particularly fit. If the world goes belly up there will be a terrible cull of the old, the very young, the sick and the disabled. I count myself amongst those at risk. It will be very sad but that's the way of nature. Technology and medical advances have kept nature at bay the past few years - there are people alive who wouldn't have survived a decade ago. I have a gut feeling the pendulum is due to swing back - and how.



posted on Dec, 27 2011 @ 07:33 PM
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theres 2 choices .
1. remain with them and take care of them.
2. do both you and them a favor and put a bullet through their head.
Cold but those are the only choices in a total collapse situation.

do what you have to when the time comes.



posted on Dec, 30 2011 @ 04:26 AM
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I would have to be in some kind of very "unreal" place mentally, to put a bullet in the head of my own mom, even if I knew it was for her own good, to prevent her from suffering.. This is a state of mind that will be foreign to many people.



posted on Dec, 30 2011 @ 04:47 AM
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people can put bullets in their own damn heads.

what kind of person would think such a damn thing?

who knows, they might fair much better than you expect.... whatever happened to pure luck... could happen.

people uphold the strangest things while giving up in the last places you'd think rational.

why don't you just go out and give the elites MORE reason to think we need MINDCONTROL or something.

BRILLIANT.



posted on Dec, 30 2011 @ 05:39 AM
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I have a Hypothetical Question: "If You have Elderly Parents 80's or 90's and The SHTF would YOU save Them the Trouble and Take Them Out Yourself Knowing It's OVER ???? Hypothetical.



posted on Dec, 30 2011 @ 05:45 AM
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Originally posted by bobw927
I have a Hypothetical Question: "If You have Elderly Parents 80's or 90's and The SHTF would YOU save Them the Trouble and Take Them Out Yourself Knowing It's OVER ???? Hypothetical.


save them the trouble?.... DO YOU NORMALLY DO THAT?

They tend to die on their own when they can fair no longer. that's usually how it works... and not to mention it happens all the time, not just when the system collapses.



posted on Dec, 30 2011 @ 05:48 AM
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NO THIS IS HYPOTHETICAL NOT REAL Myself NO!!!!!!!



posted on Dec, 30 2011 @ 06:06 AM
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Ridiculous , the only way I would
shoot an old person or someone in A SHTF situation
is if it was a zombie apocalypse and they were trying
to eat me..

That is as hypothetical you will get.
edit on 30-12-2011 by popsmayhem because: (no reason given)



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