Time exist only in Universe,beyond him it's only Light...and God.The Revolving Universe.

We live in time, everything has a beginning and an end. We feel how time elapses and with it go our lives.
Universe is finite,has edges even if we can see that,but out of no time, there is only light and God.

The light outside universe has no space.Light outside the universe is static it does not have space, is light that does not move, she lives on forever with us and God.

TextAugustine of Hippo wrote that time exists only within the created universe, so that God exists outside time; for God there is no past or future, but only an eternal present; this, of course, would require God to exist only outside the present universe. One need not believe in God in order to hold this concept of eternity: for example[original research?], an atheist mathematician can maintain the philosophical tenet that numbers and the relationships among them exist outside time, and so are in that sense eternal.

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How can finite beings feel infinite?By faith.Big Bang.What if the universe does not expand, maybe we can see only the light travelling to create the illusion of expansion while the Universe is revolving around his axis and we see as an expansion .

The Revolving Universe,the only way to keep matter together,if the Universe is not revolving then everything will collapse.An Universe revolving at speed of light keeping the matter together in equilibrium through his synapses,the black holes.That's why the speed of light is the limit.

The static light of God it's the one to give the energy to Universe to revolve and also give the Time itself as a measure of material world.It's the exchange of light that make us grow old.

This is my Theory.

reply to post by diamondsmith


God exists outside of time means that he only exists presently. God knows nothing of time because time is created by thought, a mental contruct of man. Time is abstract, it is an idea that can only arise presently.

Hard to imagine, nearly went crazy.

It is possible as long as we don't know for sure like those from discovery channel.

reply to post by Itisnowagain

God knows nothing of time

God create the time to give us this great opportunity,to live this great adventure that is Life.

reply to post by diamondsmith


There is no 'created' universe as such.
All there is, is what is happening presently.
Any 'thing' that is created is no more than a thought 'construct'.
'Thinking' is 'thinging'.

reply to post by StarBoy

Hard to imagine,

You cannot imagine,you must feel it.

TextThere is no 'created' universe as such.

reply to post by Itisnowagain
"Chaos is the best order ever,and order is the best chaos "

Diamondsmith

Seeing, tasting, touching, smelling and hearing all occur now, presently. It is God who does all this, he can do it no other time because there is no other time. Past and future have never been experienced ever.
It is not that God lives outside time, humans are delusional, humans believe all sorts of things that are not true.

I can see that all that was and all that will be can be seen from a higher perspective, every possibility played out and plotted, each person guaranteed to be on one of the infinite (yet observable) lines of probability. I can see a spinning mass that is our universe, with perhaps some form of intelligence that is able to observe all the possible experiences of reality, given the pre-established constructs of the universe.

Originally posted by Itisnowagain
Seeing, tasting, touching, smelling and hearing all occur now, presently. It is God who does all this, he can do it no other time because there is no other time. Past and future have never been experienced ever.
It is not that God lives outside time, humans are delusional, humans believe all sorts of things that are not true.

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Depend of what aim you give to the words.The truth is only one ,but we don't have eyes of mind to see it.

reply to post by diamondsmith


The perciever, the seer, the knower can not be known because it is the knower of all 'things'. If it is not the 'things' then it is not a 'thing', it is then nothing percievable.
'Knowing' God is 'Being' God.

reply to post by SystemResistor

form of intelligence

That..............is like the branches of a tree,is instant observation and communication,beyond our understanding.

things

reply to post by Itisnowagain
The balance of life is given by the time and evolution,the Observer just adjust from time to time,and protects the Universe with his branches.

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Time is an appearance to the observer. Without the observer would 'time' beable to appear. The observer is always 'present'. Time appears presently.

I was watching TV last month....lol I know......and I saw a special about the formation of the universe....they argued that time didnt exist before the big bang that created everything..since there was no matter or energy as we know it....they also stated that the universe could have poped up out of no where without energy or anything as the catalyst.....so they argued no God.,.....(stephen hawking) said that

reply to post by Itisnowagain

Time appears presently.

Yes,but when we look at the stars we can see the the past and the future,in the same time.

reply to post by diamondsmith


When you look at the stars you look at them presently, saying that you can see the past by looking at the stars now, is delusional. Without the story the scientists have told you, when are you looking at the stars and when are you seeing them?

reply to post by newyorkee

so they argued no God

Life without God is like Earth without water,if you look around you you can see the harmony of the Nature and the Nature is in harmony with God and the Universe.

reply to post by Itisnowagain

when are you looking at the stars and when are you seeing them?

Up to the star that just appeared,the journey's long and so for thousands years it's light carried to reach us here.

There is nothing but God. God is the image that is seen. The image can not appear without an observer, the observer and the image can not appear separately they come as one package. It is the same as, there can be no selling without buying and no buying without selling. It is one.
'Man' is 'man'ufactured from that image. Man 'thinks' itself separate from the image of God. At no point is man separate from the image of God ever. The image of God is made of light, see it is light now, not dark, there is light 'now', presently.
The past and future are in darkness, they are not here now.
If something is not here now then it does not exist.

The human condition is to believe the darkness, to believe in things that do not exist, things like time. Come and play in Gods playground which is right here and right now in the light of presence.