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Christian Persecution by Jews in Israel and the US

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posted on Dec, 24 2011 @ 03:44 PM
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O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, the one who kills the prophets and stones those who are sent to her! How often I wanted to gather your children together, as a hen gathers her chicks under her wings, but you were not willing” (Matthew 23:37)





Brethren, my heart’s desire and prayer to God for Israel is that they may be saved. For I bear them witness that they have a zeal for God, but not according to knowledge. For they being ignorant of God’s righteousness, and seeking to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted to the righteousness of God. For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to everyone who believes. (Romans 10:1-4)


When we think of Christians being persecuted, we normally think of countries such as Afghanistan, China or North Korea but seldom do we think about Christians getting persecuted in the holy land itself. I went to Israel a few years ago (by the way, I would recommend every Christian go there at least once in their life) and went down to the Wailing Wall where many of the orthodox Jews gather to pray. Even though there was a part of me that had the utmost respect for these Jews, the other side was sad that they were still blind and waiting for the Messiah when he has already come in the person of Jesus (Yeshua) Christ.

Below are some videos to give you an idea of what some of the Jewish Christians have to live with in Israel



This is a video of a New York Hasidic cop that beat the living snot out of an American woman because is a woman, therefore, unclean according to Hasidic Talmud belief. It is a little bit of east Jerusalem on the Hudson.





This next video is a beaut and it exposes the intent zionist Jews have for Christians

[video removed by staff]


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posted on Dec, 24 2011 @ 03:52 PM
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There is a bigger picture here.

The problem is not specific to christians or jews, it is the same with most religions really, as soon as these simple-minded people get in contact with each other, conflict is inevitable.

Yes Religions in itself is bad, these conflicts are unavoidable as long as we have religions, they will always interfere with each other, especially since simple-minded people like to start conflicts, and they are also the most religious.

This world would be so much better off without any religions at all.



posted on Dec, 24 2011 @ 03:57 PM
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It's horrible isn't it?

I've been quoting this one quite often lately:


Revelations 3:9

I will make those who are of the synagogue of Satan, who claim to be Jews though they are not, but are liars--I will make them come and fall down at your feet and acknowledge that I have loved you.


I'm with you my friend.

If you get the chance please check this thread as it has many links that pertain to your thread topic:

Christmas in the Holy Land

Star and Flag


Keep up the good work!
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posted on Dec, 24 2011 @ 03:59 PM
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Well, what can you expect? ALL three of the Abrahamic religions instill this kind of DESPICABLE human behavior and extreme HATE into its cult members.

The "other faiths" are always said to be the "enemy" of their particular cult's people and their particular so-called alleged "true god", and the others are always the "evil ones" and are to be "put to death" or sent to some miserable "hell'"in the afterlife and a lot of other nonsense that BREEDS nothing but HATE and VIOLENCE and WAR.

Bottom line: the Abrahamic faiths BREED HATE and DESPICABLE HUMAN BEHAVIOR and its all over complete MAN-MADE FICTION. A CANCER to this planet that needs to be eliminated ASAP.

Abrahamic faiths.
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posted on Dec, 24 2011 @ 04:02 PM
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Originally posted by NeoVain
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There is a bigger picture here.

The problem is not specific to christians or jews, it is the same with most religions really, as soon as these simple-minded people get in contact with each other, conflict is inevitable.

Yes Religions in itself is bad, these conflicts are unavoidable as long as we have religions, they will always interfere with each other, especially since simple-minded people like to start conflicts, and they are also the most religious.

This world would be so much better off without any religions at all.


I differ to your opinion; Jews and zionists make a big hoopla about the Holocaust and religious persecution and the moment they have the upper hand over Christians, they attack. The funny thing is that it is the Christian tax payer that keeps the zionist enclave in Palestine afloat.

The ultimate irony is that it was Muslims in the Middle East that befriended the Jews and protected them from the Crusaders and European progroms throughtout the ages. Now these Jews, mainly zionists that subjugate, slander and kill Muslim at will.

When the time comes, Christians will get the same treatment. Simply dismissing injustice and religious suppression as part of human nature insults humanity.
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posted on Dec, 24 2011 @ 04:05 PM
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Christian Persecution by Jews in Israel and the US,




This isn't what Netanyahu just said
in his Christmas address.

He even said Jesus' name and kept his lunch down.


David Grouchy




"I want to wish the Christian citizens of Israel, as well as Christians around the world, a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year. Israel is proud of its strong and growing Christian community, and we are proud of the deep and passionate support of so many Christian friends of Israel around the world."

"We are living in a time of great uncertainty and instability in the Middle East and Israel, throughout this instability, remains a beacon of religious freedom and pluralism. In a region where Christians are routinely persecuted and where there is little tolerance for the faith of others, Israel safeguards the holy places of the great religion and ensures freedom of worship for all."

- Netanyahu


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posted on Dec, 24 2011 @ 04:09 PM
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Putting lipstick on a pig comes to mind.

I think Netanyahu needs to apologise for what zionists did to Christian Palestinians and the murder of Jesus Christ.



posted on Dec, 24 2011 @ 04:17 PM
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Israel is a very difficult thing to debate, because even when you mention it you got to think of 3 main religions, and also the religions in mention conflict against each other especially when they are all compacted into one country. I find it hard to back one religion and not feel bad for the other in that region in that respect, TBH yes it was our fault "The Brits" for giving land away that wasn't ours to being with, but TBH i think they would of gone back to the holy land anyway.

But considering the title in mind "Christian Persecution by Jews in Israel" I think it is due to the nature of religious people being so stupid especially heavily and fundamentally or extremists, that they think the only thing they need to learn in life is religious values and combat anyone who opposes them because there wrong! to me this isn't the problem of religion, this is a problem of simple minded religious folk who think the only thing needed to get by in the world is religion, and there religion only cos there one is the right one! full stop! maybe if these fundamentalist and extremists got a decent education of care humanity and the struggle of other people lives and religion maybe they would be a bit more considerate towards other people religions and well-being...



posted on Dec, 24 2011 @ 04:20 PM
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Putting lipstick on a pig comes to mind.


Netanyahu praising Christmas is a twisted thing to watch. As you said, he even kept himself from vomiting. He is a true Zionist, and any Christian sympathies from this man are purely political gestures with the intention of fooling the fools.

That flag behind him is a depiction of evil.



posted on Dec, 24 2011 @ 04:20 PM
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This isn't really a political issue i don't think. According to some jews they think christians, muslims and pretty much everyone else will be their slaves in heaven for eternity. There's not even any scripture to be had that supports any of this either.

I highly doubt the zionists are the real Israelites. One would think God would have beaten whatever pride they had left in them out long ago with all those times they had been enslaved, conquered, exiled, hunted down and turned into gypsies without a land to call home.

Then again if you read accounts in the bible, specifically the books of Acts and Romans, even in Jesus' time they were a prejudice and racist lot. In Jesus' time on earth it was illegal for a gentile (non-jew) to approach or even initiate dialogue with a jew and a jew wouldn't allow the shadow of a Samaritan (Samaria, province in nothern Israel, former capital of the ten "lost tribes" before their assyrian exile) to fall on his person. Jesus was actually the first account of a jew allowing a gentile to be in his presence and speak to him (the Romans didn't apply because they didn't care, they did whatever they wanted and the jews just had to deal with it).

There was an account where Jesus and his disciples were passing by a village in Samaria and the towns people hid and wouldn't come watch them pass for fear and one of his disciples (not sure of who but i think it was Andrew) asked Jesus if they should call down fire onto them and destroy them and Jesus rebuked them and said to them that he came to save all men.

It's sad to see with his coming so very near, still they reject him and still they reject us. Precious few are messianic believers, but you can see a colossal difference in how they treat us versus the orthodox jews. It is amazing the change your spirit undergoes once you believe in our Messiah. The proof is right there of you being saved, the old you falls away and is replaced by him.



posted on Dec, 24 2011 @ 04:23 PM
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I differ to your opinion; Jews and zionists make a big hoopla about the Holocaust and religious persecution and the moment they have the upper hand over Christians, they attack. The funny thing is that it is the Christian tax payer that keep the zionist enclave in Palestine afloat.

Big hoopla about Holocaust and religious persecutions ,you say? Upper hand and attack Christians,you say?
So - how many Christians did Zionist enclave Jews killed because they were Christians? 1,2... millions?
How many churches did Zionist enclave Jews burned? 1,2...many?
The funny thing that you show 3 cases ,of which only one has anything to do with religious persecutions and it is a Jew who is persecuted,by other Jew. As in - single person.
Other two are completely pointless - policeman did what he did because she was a Christian. Right. Do you even know if she is a Christian, never mind the persecution bit?
And the third one is an offending site, true. But where are persecutions?
You want to see what religions persecutions look like:


A man who converted from Islam to Christianity is facing the death penalty in Iran for refusing to return to his former religion.

www.dailymail.co.uk...
Frankly, i get an impression that you do not understand what a religion persecution means. It is not about finding an individual who happens to be a Jew that does a bad thing to non-Jew. Nor it is about Jews who show bunch of stupid pictures on their internet forum. It is about person or a group of people being constantly opressed due to their religion.
Since you visited in Israel, i assume you did not encounter something that limited you due to you being a Christian.



posted on Dec, 24 2011 @ 04:26 PM
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I think Netanyahu needs to apologise for what zionists did to Christian Palestinians and the murder of Jesus Christ.

Hahahaha...
He is not a Roman, is he? And even if he was - he surely did not murder Jesus because he was not alive then.
And when Arab leaders will apologize for 1948 war, i want to hope that Jewish leaders will follow.



posted on Dec, 24 2011 @ 04:32 PM
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I think Netanyahu needs to apologise for what zionists did to Christian Palestinians and the murder of Jesus Christ.


I have a feeling youre going to be waiting a long time for that, barring Christ's second coming i don't see that happening.

I'd be happy with more jews recognizing that God has already been here so they stop rejecting Jesus. They can know true peace when that day comes. World peace can happen with Jesus being the light in the darkness, if only people could believe in him.



posted on Dec, 24 2011 @ 04:34 PM
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Netanyahu praising Christmas is a twisted thing to watch. As you said, he even kept himself from vomiting. He is a true Zionist, and any Christian sympathies from this man are purely political gestures with the intention of fooling the fools.

So - there are no Christian Zionists or you finally accept that when you say Zionist you mean a Jew. He did not praise Christmas, he congratulated Christians with their holiday, as any normal person and any politician should do. If you feel like vomiting when you congratulate someone it is not Netanyahu's problem. Fooling the fools is the current "campaign" to show that Israel persecutes Christians. But you guys are doing even this impossible task.


That flag behind him is a depiction of evil.

To you - maybe. To me it is flag of hope. I am sure that flags of Egypt and Nigeria and Somalia where lots of Christians were killed because they were Christians look much better to you. But it is not about it, right?



posted on Dec, 24 2011 @ 04:42 PM
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Originally posted by ZeroKnowledge


So - there are no Christian Zionists or you finally accept that when you say Zionist you mean a Jew.


My feeling is that you are trying to stuff words into Expose Corruption to clumsily maneuver him to a corner. Perhaps you ultimately want to deploy the Zionist Jew libel of "antiSemite". Nobody buys that schlock anymore and I personally couldn't care an iota if called an antiSemite by a zionist whether they be Jew, Christian, atheist or communist.
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posted on Dec, 24 2011 @ 04:43 PM
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The fact of the matter is even without religion man would find something else to kill each other over whether it be skin color,location, language and so on. It is like man has been born with this innate twisted notion that they are somehow better than others. It is really disheartening.



posted on Dec, 24 2011 @ 04:51 PM
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Christians look much better to you.

Actually, i have no problems with any group as a whole. I would however like to know, before i deploy the super weapon of Zionist Jew antisemitic libel schlock, why cannot Netanyahu congratulate Christians with their holiday?
Why it is automatically "vomit, pigs lipstick" from you guys?
Isn't coexisting a good thing. Netanyahu,who is a Jew and Zionist, congratulated Christians in Israel and abroad. Netanyahu never ,to my knowledge, said anything bad against Christians or Muslims. Then why you start to shoot at it straight away, what is it other then the above-mentioned schlock libel?
Show me where my thought process took a wrong turn, be my guest, but when i see Christian congratulating Jews with Hanukah somehow i do not think about pigs with lipstick - but maybe it is because i do not have problems with any group. If this is the case - then you clearly do.



posted on Dec, 24 2011 @ 04:59 PM
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Neither do Christians, Muslims, nor Jewish people have a respect for human life.


If they get the chance to slaughter, they slaughter. For their deity doesn't exist otherwise he'd have held them accountable over the centuries.


We're a species of conquest and the puppet masters take great pride in sending their serfs to slaughter.


We're at the pinnacle in time where 1 group in the world is about to take control. They lose no sleep at night knowing Billions will die and vast portions of the Earth will be uninhabitable. It's a Chess game to them. Religion was a cover for their idiotic serfs to "have something to believe in".



posted on Dec, 24 2011 @ 05:00 PM
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Brethren, my heart’s desire and prayer to God for Israel is that they may be saved. For I bear them witness that they have a zeal for God, but not according to knowledge. For they being ignorant of God’s righteousness, and seeking to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted to the righteousness of God. For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to everyone who believes. (Romans 10:1-4)


I think people fail to realise the wisdom and insight of those words. We now live in a world where a religion has become a race.

"For they being ignorant of God’s righteousness, and seeking to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted to the righteousness of God."

There you have it. When one's race supercedes God in righteousness (worthiness) and they call themselves both a race and a religion, then the figure of worship has become the person. This is self-worship and the ultimate form of supremacy, godhead for a race in place of a real but diminished God.

Jesus described these self-worshiping creatures in Rev. 3:9:, "Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee."


Jesus will make them worship God whether they want to or not.

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posted on Dec, 24 2011 @ 05:05 PM
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Originally posted by ZeroKnowledge
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Christians look much better to you.

Actually, i have no problems with any group as a whole. I would however like to know, before i deploy the super weapon of Zionist Jew antisemitic libel schlock, why cannot Netanyahu congratulate Christians with their holiday?
Why it is automatically "vomit, pigs lipstick" from you guys?
Isn't coexisting a good thing. Netanyahu,who is a Jew and Zionist, congratulated Christians in Israel and abroad. Netanyahu never ,to my knowledge, said anything bad against Christians or Muslims. Then why you start to shoot at it straight away, what is it other then the above-mentioned schlock libel?
Show me where my thought process took a wrong turn, be my guest, but when i see Christian congratulating Jews with Hanukah somehow i do not think about pigs with lipstick - but maybe it is because i do not have problems with any group. If this is the case - then you clearly do.


I think the moral of the story here is that not all men are the same. We christians don't like being lumped into a group with Hitler when none of us would condone what he did anymore than a jew would. Same as not every muslim wants to be lumped into the same group with that murdering lunatic Osama Bin Laden. Not all men are the same, some jews are christians, and some muslims are christians. Jesus is the tie that binds us all together because he was God walking amoung us and all of mankind being united under God is his will. We believe in God the same as any jew or muslim claims to, we just have different beliefs concerning what we believe and why we believe it. God didn't give the laws of Moses to the rest of us, only Israel. Enoch was saved by his faith, Abraham was saved by his faith with both men having different believes, rituals and customs yet God saved them both because they believed in him. There is a valuable lesson to be learned from Enoch and Abraham, that lesson is that it doesn't matter what you have done, God is our savior we just have conflicting ideals.



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