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Quake Watch 2012

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posted on Oct, 22 2012 @ 08:20 AM
reply to post by muzzy

great job like always appreciate the info you provide

posted on Oct, 22 2012 @ 09:19 AM
reply to post by muzzy

Alternatively if you call 4.8 ML ~5.11 Mw, and you call 5.0 mb ~5.42 Mw you can magic up a whole 0.31 points difference giving you about 3 times the power and twice the strength.

posted on Oct, 22 2012 @ 10:51 AM
We keep sucking on that long straw in our milkshake. We've damned all the rivers, drained all the swamps and when we ran out of water sources on top of the land, we then bored straight down and found the stuff hidden away in the aquifers. We keeping pricking the pincushion and poking holes in the old apple pie's crust. And if you think we'd stop at sucking, you'd be wrong. Because now we're blowing. We're pushing all our dirty secrets back down those holes. Knowing they'll never come back to haunt us.


I don't think the geologist in Italy should be put in jail. Instead, we should stop believing that our "officials" have all the answers. However, public geologists should be allowed to downplay the risks either.

However, again. Shouldn't we put the geologists in jail that have blatantly disregarded the obvious risks with injection. Because people are going to die. There will be a disaster and injection/fracking will be the cause.

posted on Oct, 22 2012 @ 01:19 PM
o/s Tolaga Bay going off again over the long weekend, and just moved onto the land this morning after the 4.7 (interactive version)

Date/Time UTC,Latitude,Longitude,Magnitude,Depth(Km),Location
2012-10-22 14:31:42, -38.230, 178.628, 1.9, 23.6, Tolaga Bay-Ruatoria Knoll
2012-10-22 14:19:39, -38.229, 178.168, 2.1, 10.0, Tolaga Bay-Ruatoria Knoll
2012-10-22 14:16:51, -38.256, 177.988, 1.7, 6.9, Tolaga Bay-Ruatoria Knoll
2012-10-22 13:55:13, -38.227, 178.172, 2.1, 11.2, Tolaga Bay-Ruatoria Knoll
2012-10-22 13:23:56, -38.223, 178.122, 2.1, 6.7, Tolaga Bay-Ruatoria Knoll
2012-10-22 13:08:12, -38.227, 178.111, 2.3, 7.0, Tolaga Bay-Ruatoria Knoll
2012-10-22 12:46:38, -38.309, 178.962, 4.7, 29.8, Tolaga Bay-Ruatoria Knoll [F]
2012-10-22 11:55:03, -38.089, 177.033, 1.9, 2.2, Tolaga Bay-Ruatoria Knoll
2012-10-22 10:24:19, -38.438, 178.555, 2.0, 27.2, Tolaga Bay-Ruatoria Knoll
2012-10-22 03:36:35, -38.495, 178.712, 3.4, 20.6, Tolaga Bay-Ruatoria Knoll [F]
2012-10-21 10:50:30, -38.860, 177.192, 2.3, 4.5, Tuahenui Bank
2012-10-21 04:52:38, -38.491, 178.597, 2.6, 37.6, Tolaga Bay-Ruatoria Knoll
2012-10-21 03:57:23, -38.552, 176.728, 2.2, 69.4, Tuahenui Bank
2012-10-20 22:16:21, -38.362, 178.440, 2.4, 16.8, Tolaga Bay-Ruatoria Knoll [F]
2012-10-20 19:42:58, -38.480, 178.645, 2.8, 23.9, Tolaga Bay-Ruatoria Knoll
2012-10-20 16:54:00, -38.448, 178.554, 2.3, 26.7, Tolaga Bay-Ruatoria Knoll
2012-10-20 14:39:47, -38.373, 178.463, 2.1, 17.5, Tolaga Bay-Ruatoria Knoll
2012-10-20 14:35:48, -38.447, 178.678, 2.6, 21.0, Tolaga Bay-Ruatoria Knoll
2012-10-20 14:24:39, -38.462, 178.567, 2.4, 24.8, Tolaga Bay-Ruatoria Knoll
2012-10-20 14:14:37, -38.421, 178.577, 2.4, 22.0, Tolaga Bay-Ruatoria Knoll
2012-10-20 13:43:05, -38.449, 178.639, 2.7, 21.0, Tolaga Bay-Ruatoria Knoll
2012-10-20 13:05:10, -38.444, 178.563, 2.3, 26.2, Tolaga Bay-Ruatoria Knoll
2012-10-20 12:57:57, -38.462, 178.600, 2.9, 24.8, Tolaga Bay-Ruatoria Knoll [F]
2012-10-20 12:55:16, -38.571, 178.850, 4.0, 20.1, Tuahenui Bank [F]
2012-10-20 12:49:11, -38.486, 178.660, 3.3, 25.1, Tolaga Bay-Ruatoria Knoll [F]
2012-10-20 12:35:58, -38.466, 178.641, 3.0, 21.5, Tolaga Bay-Ruatoria Knoll [F]
2012-10-20 12:34:22, -38.496, 178.676, 2.4, 29.8, Tolaga Bay-Ruatoria Knoll
2012-10-20 12:32:38, -38.461, 178.603, 2.4, 24.1, Tolaga Bay-Ruatoria Knoll
2012-10-20 12:26:11, -38.392, 178.505, 2.2, 19.1, Tolaga Bay-Ruatoria Knoll
2012-10-20 12:19:55, -38.544, 178.799, 3.8, 19.1, Tuahenui Bank [F]
2012-10-20 12:15:53, -38.449, 178.613, 3.2, 23.9, Tolaga Bay-Ruatoria Knoll [F]
2012-10-20 12:13:13, -38.563, 178.913, 4.1, 20.1, Tuahenui Bank [F]
2012-10-20 09:22:28, -38.394, 178.499, 2.2, 20.1, Tolaga Bay-Ruatoria Knoll
2012-10-20 08:27:07, -38.449, 178.610, 2.6, 21.7, Tolaga Bay-Ruatoria Knoll
2012-10-20 06:23:04, -38.380, 178.495, 2.3, 18.7, Tolaga Bay-Ruatoria Knoll
2012-10-20 06:12:16, -38.514, 178.371, 2.3, 23.5, Tuahenui Bank
2012-10-20 05:02:19, -38.632, 178.438, 2.3, 24.9, Tuahenui Bank
2012-10-20 04:10:30, -38.468, 178.614, 2.5, 25.1, Tolaga Bay-Ruatoria Knoll
2012-10-20 03:57:16, -38.451, 178.604, 2.5, 23.2, Tolaga Bay-Ruatoria Knoll
2012-10-20 02:17:28, -38.451, 178.604, 2.2, 25.1, Tolaga Bay-Ruatoria Knoll
2012-10-20 01:35:53, -38.450, 178.607, 2.6, 22.0, Tolaga Bay-Ruatoria Knoll
Data downloaded from Geonet using QVS Data Pro+ V1.4

41 events = 220.053TTNT = a single 4.78ML quake

*Note to Puterman, I used the Filter Phrase and Export Text (edited) for the first time

edit on 22-10-2012 by muzzy because: (no reason given)

ETA: just noticed one thing that has come out better from the SeisComP3 upgrade at Geonet has been the extra number of stations graphs available.
this is a new one, Matawai, right by that swarm as it happens (Urewera used to be the only East Cape station)

edit on 22-10-2012 by muzzy because: (no reason given)

posted on Oct, 22 2012 @ 02:42 PM
reply to post by muzzy

Note to Puterman, I used the Filter Phrase and Export Text (edited) for the first time

indeed, nice to see it getting some exercise!!

posted on Oct, 22 2012 @ 03:17 PM
reply to post by ericblair4891

I don't think the geologist in Italy should be put in jail.

That decision by the Italian court will end up causing far more panic than before because now seismologists will be issuing warnings for every little hiccup and burp the ground makes.

Scientists cannot predict earthquakes. Not only did the USGS prove that they could not do it in California but now scientists have so far proved that they cannot do it a Kamchatka either - despite issuing warnings of a fairly dire nature.

But the ICEF report’s findings also called for better public communication, not just of day-to-day temblor hazards but also by setting alert levels that take into account the advantage of being psychologically prepared for when a quake hits.

OK so let's have a continual state of panic and a bunch of people who still regrettably would have been killed because even if they had been psychologically prepared the buildings would still have fallen down.

The blame for the damage lies not with the geologists/seismologists but with the burghers of the very town that convicted these people. They failed to strengthen buildings ia known earthquake area yet blame the geologists for their own failure.

I don't love scientists as you know but this is just preposterous and grossly unfair.

Oh by the way everyone in California, get yourselves psychologically prepared because there may be a Mag 1.5 tomorrow.

I accept no liability for this warning either way or for the psychological unpreparedness of any Californian resident or visitor. The event foretold in this warning may or may not come to pass and I further accept no costs or liabilities for preparations that people may make as a result of this warning. All warnings are offered in good faith as a suggestion of what might occur and if the severity of any such occurrence within the time span stated is greater than the anticipated severity or if local geological conditions result in greater intensity of shaking than might otherwise be anticipated for the suggested size of anticipated event such increase in intensity shall be considered as having been unforeseeable and no liability shall be accepted for any increased effects from the event that may or may not come to fruition within the given time period. Any event that occurs outside the time span of this warning shall not be considered as part of the warning and may or may not be the subject of a further issuance of warnings by myself or others on condition that no liability shall be attach to such issuance or the lack thereof.

Sound to me like all our prophets on ATS might need something like this as well.

edit on 22/10/2012 by PuterMan because: (no reason given)

posted on Oct, 22 2012 @ 06:28 PM
I happened to look at my post and there's a mistake. I wanted to say that the geologists and town officials should not have played down the risk. I don't think the seven defendants are guilty of manslaughter. But the case is not clear cut. And we can't forget the physicist who was running around the region with a bull horn warning of the earthquake. The officials were not convicted because they failed to predict the earthquake. The were found to have not be consistent and responsive when it came to giving adequate warning. They need to label the coffee cup with a big bold warning that the beverage is HOT! In other words. It's all about warnings. And insurance. The scientists said it was unlikely that the many "foreshocks" would lead to a big earthquake. Because that's what the science says. Geologists state that there is no way to determine whether small earthquakes mean a big one is right around the corner. The problem was that in this case, the geologists were more vocal than normal when reassuring the public the "forehocks" and the warnings from the physicist were "nothing to worry about". Had they been vague, and if they had not been so publicly try to discredit the physicist, there would have been less evidence to use against the seven officials. But since they were so pro-active in placating the public, they appeared to be dismissive. I understand why they were discrediting the physicist. Many of the people of the region were bring their concerns to the government after they heard the physicist speaking out. The officials "had" to discredit the physicist in order to maintain authority. However, in doing so, they took too strong a contrary position. Sometimes it's better to be wishy washy. Hence, the present state of our political systems. Flip-flop. Say lots with saying anything.

Had the public officials focused on the facts. They would have been fine. They could have said that it is not possible to predict earthquakes accurately, if at all. But, since Italy is in a known seismic area, the public should assume one could happen at any moment, and therefore, it would be advisable to prepare an emergency plan.
Instead, the scientists entered the public debate and began predicting there probably wouldn't be an earthquake. I understand the geologist point of view that it is nearly impossible to predict earthquakes. But this case is much more nuanced due to the circumstances. In most cases, you don't have a scientist running around the countryside warning of impending disaster.

At the end of the day, the physicist was right and the geologists were wrong. For whatever that's worth.

posted on Oct, 23 2012 @ 04:53 AM
This one came up on EMSC as 6.1 but when I went to the page it was 5.6 mb

Here is the listing from my program

Prov,Date/Time UTC,Latitude,Longitude,Magnitude,Depth(Km),Location
emsc,2012-10-23 09:39:23, -22.396, 171.552, 6.1, 10.0, S.East Of Loyalty Isls.

Have to wait and see.

Magnitude 6.0 - Southeast Of The Loyalty Islands

Location in Google Maps
  • Date-Time: Tuesday, October 23, 2012 @ 09:39:31 UTC
  • Earthquake location: 22.316°S, 171.675°E,
  • Earthquake depth: 127.0 km
  • Distances:
    39km (24mi) WNW of Ile Hunter, New Caledonia
    482km (299mi) ESE of We, New Caledonia
    524km (325mi) E of Mont-Dore, New Caledonia
    537km (333mi) E of Noumea, New Caledonia
    538km (334mi) E of Dumbea, New Caledonia
  • Event ID: usb000dbf7

Derived from Event Data Source: USGS
Powered by QVSData
edit on 23/10/2012 by PuterMan because: (no reason given)

posted on Oct, 23 2012 @ 05:47 AM
Alaskan buoy in event mode.precursor for a quake event along West Coast of US thru Central Americas. Station 46403.

posted on Oct, 23 2012 @ 06:20 AM
reply to post by Mister1k

Where can I get that info? Interesting?

Has something like this happened before?

posted on Oct, 23 2012 @ 07:12 AM
reply to post by Doodle19815

National Buoy Data Center and yes is the answer - frequently.

Looks like one of the normal glitches to me and by the way you don't get buoys showing precursors. The buoys react AFTER an event to the tsunami and not before.

These glitches in data are common and nothing to be concerned about. They are the equivalent of the glitches you get on seismos.

That 'glitch' represents a difference in water height of 0.035 metres (otherwise known as 35mm or 1.5" in American). In a water depth of 4512 metres I am surprised that even registered.

ETA: By the way that graph is 'backwards' as the dates are top down so the earliest date is on the right.

edit on 23/10/2012 by PuterMan because: (no reason given)

posted on Oct, 23 2012 @ 07:40 AM
reply to post by PuterMan

Wow, thank you very much sir! I guess I should have worded my question better to look like this, has a buoy event ever been known to signal a quake ahead of time. But I think you got me covered anyhow.

Just one more piece of info to take in with all of the others. A person could spend all day checking solar stuff, quakes, buoys, press releases, and of course ATS. It is a vicious cycle because by the time you are done with the list you have to start over again to catch back up!

posted on Oct, 23 2012 @ 07:44 AM
Warning to Eric, may cause heart palpitations, anger, and eye rolling!

Suddenly, I like Dave all the more.

posted on Oct, 23 2012 @ 07:50 AM
reply to post by Doodle19815

A person could spend all day checking solar stuff, quakes, buoys, press releases, and of course ATS.

Alternatively you could just save a lot of time and only check ATS!

After all it will probably be here before it is out there on the MSM.


OK here you go

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posted on Oct, 23 2012 @ 07:58 AM

Still working on ATS coding.

posted on Oct, 23 2012 @ 08:03 AM

Originally posted by Doodle19815

Still working on ATS coding.

See the PDF in my signature. It may help.

posted on Oct, 23 2012 @ 11:38 AM

Don't blame me, this was in my email.

Puterman's thread about - about. This is the hard part. What the hell was it about? Oh, I guess the only thing that adequately describes the practice of fracking near nuke plants is ... nothing.

There is no word to describe the lunacy at work here. And I know I used the word lunacy. But as I stated, lunacy does not work- because I am a lunatic- and even I have periods of lucid thinking. America's energy plan, or rather energy scheme shows there's never been any sane thinking involved.

Puterman, it appears you are having the same nightmare as I. Obama and Romney were boasting they'll drill more. I can make predictions about earthquakes. I can't tell you exactly when, but it's relatively soon, and it will where they are fracking and injecting. I'm not staring into a crystal ball, I'm learned about the physics and the basic math.

When they've tapped off the surplus gas and this gas glut is over, they be back to increased production which means they'll be increasing injections and earthquakes. Sooner or later they'll be a tipping point.

Oh, as for David Letterman. Yes, he wasn't exactly clear on all his points. But then again, he's a comedian. Not a government official or expert. The industry is pushing back hard. Eye rolling. No, I wanted to. But I don't do that anymore. I did in when I was in basic training in the army and I paid for it.

That reminds me. I need to draw a chickadee.

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posted on Oct, 23 2012 @ 12:46 PM
reply to post by ericblair4891

Couldn't have said it better myself

Those local authorities need to take a long hard look at themselves and the way they run their building codes.
From memory one woman died of a heart attack but the rest were crushed when buildings collapsed.
The earthquake didn't kill them, the falling buildings did, and generally apart from landslides and tsunamis thats what happens everywhere when people are killed in earthquakes.
Without the fine details at hand its hard to say why the geologists are getting the blame, even if they alerted the authorities to the risk of a bigger quake I wonder if the authorities would/could have done anything?
Just look at Naples, 3 million people living on top of a super volcano that is predicted to erupt any time soon, why hasn't the city been evacuated? same with Mexico City, the answer is money and self interest.

Like Puterman says too, you can't have everyone in a panic and heading out of town every time there is a swarm of earthquakes, look at Le Hierro last year, the majority of residents stayed right where they were and got on with life, at the end of the day nothing dramatic happened except some "Jacuzzi" type disturbances in the sea.

In fact I would hazard a guess and say the data was available on the Italian "foreshocks" on the Internet, just happens that no one picked up on it an thought it was important.

So based what the Italian Court is saying a warning has been given for East Cape, the evacuation of Tologa Bay occurred yesterday, the town is deserted (wasn't much there anyway
) based on the swarm of quakes offshore over the weekend, Gisborne, Napier and Hastings is on high alert with voluntary evacuations to higher ground recommended for the next month in case there is a mag 7 at that swarm location with ensuing tsunami.

Of course that scenario is nonsense, not every swarm results in a big quake, in fact apart from San Andreas (eg Brawley 2012) very few swarms end in a bigger quake.

I would hope the geologists lawyers have lodged an Appeal.
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posted on Oct, 23 2012 @ 07:54 PM
Earthquake Details

This event has been reviewed by a seismologist.
Wednesday, October 24, 2012 at 00:45:34 UTC
Tuesday, October 23, 2012 at 06:45:34 PM at epicenter
Time of Earthquake in other Time Zones
10.121°N, 85.314°W
20.1 km (12.5 miles)
10 km (6 miles) NE of Hojancha, Costa Rica
11 km (6 miles) ESE of Nicoya, Costa Rica
30 km (18 miles) ESE of Santa Cruz, Costa Rica
44 km (27 miles) SW of Canas, Costa Rica
Location Uncertainty
horizontal +/- 13.2 km (8.2 miles); depth +/- 2.6 km (1.6 miles)
NST=621, Nph=628, Dmin=43.4 km, Rmss=1.39 sec, Gp= 40°,
M-type=(unknown type), Version=8
Magnitude: USGS NEIC (WDCS-D)
Location: USGS NEIC (WDCS-D)
Event ID


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posted on Oct, 23 2012 @ 08:37 PM
A powerful earthquake struck western Costa Rica on Tuesday, shaking buildings in the capital of San Jose, but there were no initial reports of damage or injuries.
Residents of San Jose ran out of buildings after the 6.6 magnitude quake hit, but many went back indoors soon afterward, a Reuters witness said.

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