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“Simply put, the Law of Attraction states that you will attract into your life whatever you focus on. Whatever you give your energy and attention to will come back to you. So, if you stay focused on the good and positive things in your life, you will automatically attract more good and positive things into your life.”
Originally posted by Kandinsky
reply to post by thruthseek3r
It'd be really nice if this type of thinking worked.
It'd mean people with Parkinson's or leukaemia could concentrate them away. It'd mean the dirt poor could be as comfortably-off as those with their own homes and cars. Kids could *will* their parents not to fight and to stay together. Lots of good stuff...
The thing is, if you believe in the 'law of attraction,' all these people must deserve what they get through concentrating on bad things right? So when Mom's dying of a terminal illness and the treatments just don't seem to be working, well...she isn't focusing enough huh? Sorry kids, your Mom doesn't want to live or she'd get better. Hey homeless people! Stop whining and concentrate more!
I could mention victims of rape and abuse, but you probably get it already.
So if someone wrote a book about this and promised results, the blame for not *succeeding* is the fault of the customer and not the seller. It used to be called selling snake-oil.
It's not a matter of deserving what you get or not. In theory, yes if you have shreds of doubt you will not receive your results. Of course, it is very difficult NOT to have any doubts. That is kind of the concept though. No doubts. If you had 100% no doubts you will, in theory, be able to achieve anything you desire. We all have doubts though, don't we?
As for disease, it is now been proven that 90% of disease is caused by stress. Stress is caused by negative thought process. Negative thoughts are a result of being pessimistic.
The rich get richer and the poor get poorer, do they not? Do the rich feel and focus on their abundance of money? Yes, and in return that attracts more. Do poor people focus on the fact that they have NO money? Yes, and in return they continually manifest their state of having no money.
Originally posted by Raivan31
If i'm filling an empty glass and i stop halfway, then i call it 'Half-full' but if the glass is full and i have a drink and stop half way then the glass is now half-empty...
It's more a matter of logic rather then having a positive outlook...
Jeebers, one look at my facebook wall and some it's profile updates is proof enough that i'm positive.
Originally posted by Kandinsky
reply to post by thruthseek3r
It'd be really nice if this type of thinking worked.
It'd mean people with Parkinson's or leukaemia could concentrate them away.
It'd mean the dirt poor could be as comfortably-off as those with their own homes and cars.
Kids could *will* their parents not to fight and to stay together. Lots of good stuff...
The thing is, if you believe in the 'law of attraction,' all these people must deserve what they get through concentrating on bad things right? So when Mom's dying of a terminal illness and the treatments just don't seem to be working, well...she isn't focusing enough huh? Sorry kids, your Mom doesn't want to live or she'd get better. Hey homeless people! Stop whining and concentrate more!
I could mention victims of rape and abuse, but you probably get it already.
So if someone wrote a book about this and promised results, the blame for not *succeeding* is the fault of the customer and not the seller. It used to be called selling snake-oil.
Originally posted by Skyfloating
Popular Misunderstandings of the "law of attraction"
In my opinion, there is a whole lot more to know about the subject than popular movies such as "The Secret" and "What the Bleep do we know" can show without falling away from the mainstream or becoming too lengthy. Here are some of the misconceptions that spontaneously come to mind:
"You can have everything you want"
This is such a simplified, mass-marketing-like statement that it can be said to be untrue. You cannot "have everything you want" since the mere act of wanting implies a seperation from that which is wanted. Make sense? There are billions of people wanting stuff all their lives without getting it. Id put "the law of attraction" this way: You can have everything you believe you already have". I´ll explain this in later posts.
"This is a brand new thing" and "This is a new new age thing"
Nope. Its not new at all. It used to be underground or "occult science" or "secret science". Take for example the 1930s book called "Thoughtforms" by Leadbeater/Besant (Theosophists) which teaches that thoughts can densify and become physical matter. But its even older than that. As far back as the 3rd Century kabbalists were talking about "visualizing things in order to create them" (see for example interpretations of the ancient book sefer yeritzah)
"All you have to do is visualize something for it to come true"
This is another simplification which, many will experience themselves, is not entirely correct. First of all, in the metaphysical-sciences, the purpose of visualisation is not to "make something happen", but to experience something as "already happening" and to get into a certain state-of-being, a certain frequency...which then attracts certain beneficial events. What most people do, however, is use visualisation of dreams out of a state of LACK of those dreams, in other words, in order to "make them happen some day". This is contradictory to the law of attraction though. Proper visualisation is not used to "make something happen later", but to FEEL the reality of something right now, to familiarize oneself with the overall vibe of a certain reality. Also, most only visualize a two-dimensional image in front of their forehead. This is much less effective than making the visualisation a three-dimensional, tactile, all-senses, whole-body ecstatic experience. It is not the visualisation that creates anything, but the energy/emotion/excitement which acts as a magnetic signal.
"Without action, none of this works"
This I have frequently read on forums and heard from people. However, "action" is not what the law of attraction is primarily about. If it were about taking action towards your goals, then this type of magical technique would not be magical at all but no different than the normal way of achieving something. Action is alright and action works because we have been conditioned to believe that action-towards-our-desires works, but the law-of-attraction does not necessarily require action (and if it does then only inspired action upon opportunities that present themselves after one has put creation-energy into motion). The law-of-attraction states that you get what you put out, that what you experience is a match to your overall energy-vibration. Therefore, everything you like and everything you dislike creates your overall energy-output (much of the two neutralizing each other before anything is created) and will reflect in your life experience.
"You have to think positive all the time"
The denial of ones and the worlds shadow sides has nothing to do with the real metaphysics of this and much more to do with immature and cheap variations of the law of attraction. A balanced being acknowledges negative and positve. The negative is used to learn what one truly feels/believes. Negative feelings for example, are an indicator of having strayed off one´s inner path, the path one´s soul has chosen. Without these negative feelings you would be without any sort of navigation in life, without any sort of free will to choose what is right and wrong for you. Suppressing negative feelings equals suppressing the very path to the positive side of the pendulum. What you resist will persist. The expert therefore allows and utilizes the negative while shifting to the positive (sometimes using the neutral zero-point as a stepping stone to the positive).
So, this is how it works
For naive and childlike beginners it works just like they say it in the movie "the secret". It works like magic until the cynical, questioning, skeptical, worried mind kicks in. After the excitement and novelty has worn off, this is how it, imo, actually works:
Focus. Something is focussed on, until it becomes familiar. The familiarity with it builds trust and the attraction of "things like it", things similar to it.
Focus can be applied in many different ways. One can look at something out there in physical reality or in here, in the mind. One can write about it (writing being even stronger than thinking), speak about it, listen to others speak about it, see it, touch it, feel it, do it, immerse oneself in it (whatever it is one wants to attract). But this is all done in the sense and tense (present tense or past tense) of it already being real, solid, substantial, important, normal, appreciated (rather than needed, wanted, longed for). Basically, one focusses for while (in this manner), and then "lets go of it". "Letting go" not in the sense of loosing interest, but in the sense of no longer requesting or requiring it (afterall, you have to pretend its already real).
And thats that.
Originally posted by Kandinsky
reply to post by ErroneousDylan
It's not a matter of deserving what you get or not. In theory, yes if you have shreds of doubt you will not receive your results. Of course, it is very difficult NOT to have any doubts. That is kind of the concept though. No doubts. If you had 100% no doubts you will, in theory, be able to achieve anything you desire. We all have doubts though, don't we?
You might not be aware of it, but you are allocating blame and responsibility to people based on their 'doubts.'
The rich get richer and the poor get poorer, do they not? Do the rich feel and focus on their abundance of money? Yes, and in return that attracts more. Do poor people focus on the fact that they have NO money? Yes, and in return they continually manifest their state of having no money.
You're joking right? You're attributing the rich/poor divide to the rich being optimists? And you're blaming the poor for sulking about being poor?
The human history of social inequality and medical research all condensed into the notion that people get what they deserve.
ATS surprises me once more!
Originally posted by Kandinsky
reply to post by ErroneousDylan
Linking a bunch of pseudo-scientific 'wellness' sites doesn't avoid the fact that stress is not proven to be the cause of 90% of disease.
It's a BS statistic with no academic source.
There are diseases that are incredibly infectious and you can't 'raise your vibrations' or 'focus' them away. Likewise there are people born into circumstances that all the focusing they can muster won't help them. To think otherwise is to ignore free will or the facts of life.
As much as some people want to believe they can change the universe by the power of their thoughts, it isn't the case. Telling someone that what happens to them is their own fault for being 'negative' or not focusing enough is lacking in human compassion and awareness. There are millions of people in hospitals and they aren't all in there because they think negatively. It's also so human-centric as to be absurd to my thinking. The universe isn't at the beck and call of a human's will to believe.
In terms of logic, there isn't any in the 'law of attraction.'
It is not their 'doubts', it is their mindset which is to blame. It is their unconscious acceptance of of their circumstance which is the cause. There is no blame, but yes it is their responsibility.
. The world abounds with rags to riches stories. What changed? In very few circumstances does it have anything to do with 'luck'. What changed was what they wanted out of the world and also how they perceived the world.
I have already commented on illness so I will not repeat unless you require further clarification. But there is no one who cannot change the circumstances of their lives for the better. I do not see how free will has anything to do with this and would be interested to know what 'the facts of life' are regarding people being condemned to forever live in the circumstances they are born into.
Once again this only goes to show how little you know about this subject. It has nothing to do with thinking 'negatively' or 'positively'. You completely over-simplify something which is not even really that complex.
What is this logic? That you cannot change your circumstances for the better? That if you are born into poor you must remain poor?
Originally posted by Kandinsky
reply to post by thruthseek3r
It'd be really nice if this type of thinking worked.
It'd mean people with Parkinson's or leukaemia could concentrate them away. It'd mean the dirt poor could be as comfortably-off as those with their own homes and cars. Kids could *will* their parents not to fight and to stay together. Lots of good stuff...
The thing is, if you believe in the 'law of attraction,' all these people must deserve what they get through concentrating on bad things right? So when Mom's dying of a terminal illness and the treatments just don't seem to be working, well...she isn't focusing enough huh? Sorry kids, your Mom doesn't want to live or she'd get better. Hey homeless people! Stop whining and concentrate more!
I could mention victims of rape and abuse, but you probably get it already.
So if someone wrote a book about this and promised results, the blame for not *succeeding* is the fault of the customer and not the seller. It used to be called selling snake-oil.
Originally posted by Kandinsky
reply to post by ErroneousDylan
It's a BS statistic with no academic source.
There are diseases that are incredibly infectious and you can't 'raise your vibrations' or 'focus' them away.
I have had some proofs in my life reaching from point A to B where without my positive thinking it would not be possible. I had a sinusitis and did not needed any drugs to heal it, only my own mind. By the way did you ever heard about the placebo effect?
Yes the dirt poor can be as comfortable as any human but if he is dirt poor I am ready to say his thinking has not been taking enough seriously in a positive manner to have it taking him out of where he is.