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Originally posted by Zanti Misfit
reply to post by undo
Oh , Sorry Maam . All Life is Sacred , but sometimes the Needs of the Many Outweight the Needs of the Few . it's Called the LAW , both God and Man Recognize this. Order From Chaos , the Selfdefense of a Society also has a God Given Right to Protect itself even if the End Result causes Human Death ...C'est la vie .......edit on 24-12-2011 by Zanti Misfit because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by undo
Originally posted by antonia
Well, welcome to ATS OP, in between shouts of "UR A SHILL" and death threats (which i get whenever I question the Paul) I hope you find something worthwhile.
He didn't show up to gig, so I don't see why we are discussing it?! However I will not be voting so don't think I am biased. As George Carlin once said "At least when I'm done masturbating, I'll have something to show for it."
i offer my promises not to kill you for disagreeing with ron paul.
whew, are you really getting death threats??
Originally posted by ltinycdancerg
reply to post by antonia
George Carlin also said-
"Personally, when it comes to rights, I think one of two things is true: I think either we have unlimited rights, or we have no rights at all. Personally, I lean toward unlimited rights - I feel, for instance, I have the right to do anything I please. But, if I do something you don't like, I think you have the right to kill me. So where you gonna find a fairer f*ing deal than that? So the next time some asshole says to you, "I have a right to my opinion," you say, "Oh yeah? Well, I have a right to my opinion, and my opinion is that you have no right to your opinion." Then shoot the f* and walk away!"
RIP Mister Carlin-
I hope that where ever you are out there in the ethereal starlight, you're able to see what's going on- I know it would bring a genuine smile to your face
1. The sheer amount of vitriol and bigotry that appeared under his name, while doesn't necessarily mean he believes the same, shows a deep lack of executive skill. It is simply inexcusable to allow such garbage to be printed under your name.
2. This is more personal, but I believe one of the hallmarks of being a man, is to call out injustice and bigotry when you see it. Dr. Paul, whether he subscribes to the ideas himself, has been associated with people that espouse disgusting ideas. My father (and mother) raised me in a manner to stand up for what is right, and that entails speaking out when those around you are being bigoted. Yes, you may agree with 99% of what a group says, but when they stand for evil, you must call it out.
Originally posted by TsukiLunar
I think all these people defending Ron Paul are paid shills.
edit on 24-12-2011 by TsukiLunar because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Rockpuck
reply to post by TsukiLunar
Paul is the only candidate outside of the system. So call us shills. I think anyone who openly supports anyone other than Ron Paul is a dumbass with their face glued to MSM for a source of information.
Originally posted by eLPresidente
reply to post by TsukiLunar
When ATS did the presidential election poll, I believe Ron won with 60-70% PLUS, it may have been even more.
Are you saying if these people came to the defense of Ron Paul, they would all be paid shills?
Originally posted by Rockpuck
reply to post by LordOfArcadia
Only one thing occurred under his name and that is the news letter. Of which the candidates have no specific control over the writings that their staffers do (I've worked in the past and will in the future on more than one campaign..)
For years, Ron Paul published a series of newsletters that dispensed political news and investment advice, but also routinely indulged in bigotry. Here's a selection of some especially inflammatory passages, with links to scanned images of the original documents in which they appeared.
“A Special Issue on Racial Terrorism” analyzes the Los Angeles riots of 1992: “Order was only restored in L.A. when it came time for the blacks to pick up their welfare checks three days after rioting began. ... What if the checks had never arrived? No doubt the blacks would have fully privatized the welfare state through continued looting. But they were paid off and the violence subsided.”
The November 1990 issue of the Political Report had kind words for David Duke.
This December 1990 newsletter describes Martin Luther King Jr. as “a world-class adulterer” who “seduced underage girls and boys” and “replaced the evil of forced segregation with the evil of forced integration.”
A February 1991 newsletter attacks “The X-Rated Martin Luther King.”
An October 1990 edition of the Political Report ridicules black activists, led by Al Sharpton, for demonstrating at the Statue of Liberty in favor of renaming New York City after Martin Luther King. The newsletter suggests that “Welfaria,” “Zooville,” “Rapetown,” “Dirtburg,”and “Lazyopolis ” would be better alternatives—and says, “Next time, hold that demonstration at a food stamp bureau or a crack house.”
A May 1990 issue of the Ron Paul Political Report cites Jared Taylor, who six months later would go onto found the eugenicist and white supremacist periodical American Renaissance.
The January 1993 issue of the Survival Report worries about America’s “disappearing white majority.”
The July 1992 Ron Paul Political Report declares, “Jury verdicts, basketball games, and even music are enough to set off black rage, it seems,” and defends David Duke. The author of the newsletter—presumably Paul—writes, “My youngest son is starting his fourth year in medical school. He tells me there would be no way to persuade his fellow students of the case for economic liberty.”
A March 1993 Survival Report describes Bill Clinton’s supposedly “illegitimate children, black and white: ‘woods colts’ in backwoods slang.”...
Originally posted by WaterFasting
To those who even consider voting for anyone other than Ron Paul - YOU ARE IGNORANT. Ignorant for not seeing that all other candidates work for Wall St and Federal Reserve. Ron Paul is ACTUAL change, Romney and Obama are slime bags who work for the elites, seriously, why is this debate even going? It's either Ron Paul, or you're just stupid. And there are a lot of stupid people out there, so don't feel bad. You are not alone.edit on 24-12-2011 by WaterFasting because: (no reason given)