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3 year old toddler shoots and kills 5 year old-

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posted on Dec, 23 2011 @ 08:38 PM
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This is just so horrible especially right before christmas. Apparently a man was "supervising" the kids at the time of the accident. I somehow think that this is not the real story however. Im sorry but a three, even a five year old would not have the strength and knowledge of how to even cock the weapon. Anyhow details are not out yet but I will post anymore that do come available. www.kdvr.com...

TextLAKEWOOD, Colo. -- A 5-year-old boy was shot and killed by a 3-year-old early Friday morning, FOX31 has confirmed. Police say a 23-year-old visiting from Kansas was supervising the children when the accident occurred. The adult will be charged with child abuse resulting in


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posted on Dec, 23 2011 @ 08:42 PM
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absolutely nuts.
how is something like this an accident?
i'm very pro-gun, but, extremely anti- stupid human at the same time.
i think a higher price should be paid.
here kiddie, play with this!
seriously, how does something like this even happen?



posted on Dec, 23 2011 @ 08:43 PM
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Gun Locks?
Gun Safe?




posted on Dec, 23 2011 @ 08:44 PM
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Very sad. Too many unanswered questions. I'd like to know what kind of gun it was since not all guns need to be cocked prior to shooting.

Maybe the five year old shot himself. We just can't be sure, but the adult(s) should be held accountable. I'm sure some politician or anti-gun group will eat this up to push their agenda.



posted on Dec, 23 2011 @ 08:45 PM
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Yeah there is some questions that come up immediately to me...like why is the gun loaded, why is the safety not on (assuming it had one), and why was it within the childrens' reach/access???
Something just doesn't gel here and with the kid, what about kickback? Gunshot residue/burns from the firing of said gun???

Yeah there's something fishy here, I dunno...how does a three yr old have enough hand coordination and strength to pull that trigger?



posted on Dec, 23 2011 @ 08:46 PM
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I agree! How do you just happen to have some dude from kansas visiting, doesnt even say its family. And in that time this happens? I smell something VERY premeditated by the parent and something rotten?



posted on Dec, 23 2011 @ 08:48 PM
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Does anyone else catch the whiff of absentee parenting in the room?

Alcohol, sex, crack?

In other words my first question isn't who's gun is it, my first question is where are the parents.

I mean the emphasis on "supervised" smacks of pure spin.


David Grouchy
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posted on Dec, 23 2011 @ 08:54 PM
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With a baby dead and one adult
supervising I would put the blame
on the adult. Who's gun was it?
Why was it even anywhere near
the children? And then who knows
what else lurks behind this story.
Not much in details in the report,
hope this time an update is reported.

People that don't care anything
about the safety and welfare of
children are the worse in my book.



posted on Dec, 23 2011 @ 08:59 PM
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Very sketchy details - hardly anything to read. My first thought was - hoax - and I am hoping I am right. In this day and age reporters can get detailed stories out in a very short space of time. Reporters will even race to see who can get the first broadcast.

If a reporter can manage to get a news report out in the middle of a war - why can't they get a report out in the middle of a regular neighbourhood?

If this is true - it is a crying shame for all involved. If it is a hoax story then it is still a crying shame for those involved.

I find it hard to believe a three year old could hold a gun up and aim. I would like to know what type of firearm and why was it out where a Child could find it?

Much Peace ...



posted on Dec, 23 2011 @ 09:00 PM
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A five year old is dead. The parents have left a gun laying around, loaded. And the person (friend, family?) who is looking after the kids doesnt see it in time to stop it.
Well thats what i got from the article.

Am i the only one who thinks it should be the parents who goes to jail? Not the young adult whos trying to look after 2 kids, i am sure loads of you have babysat before know how hard it is and impossible to keep an eye on them at all times something like this can just take 1 second.


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posted on Dec, 23 2011 @ 09:05 PM
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No hoax I live down the street from here thats how I found out. Its VERY real unfortunately



posted on Dec, 23 2011 @ 09:05 PM
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The parents have left a gun laying around, loaded. And the person (friend, family?) who is looking after the kids doesnt see it in time to stop it.


ah, thanx for that, sometimes i get things running through my head that stop me from thinking clearly.
great point, i wish there was more info.
i automatically suspected the gun as his, the guy watching them.



posted on Dec, 23 2011 @ 09:10 PM
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I need more information before I can really say anything about this.

I own a Glock 22 .40 cal. If I do not chamber a round, the trigger stays in a depressed position. In other words, you can't pull the trigger. I have a tough time seeing how a 3 year old can chamber a round. I seriously question if a 3 year old would have the strength or the dexterity to do it.

That being said, this is MY gun. Not all guns are made the same. If this is not a semi automatic pistol, it may not work the same way. So I really need much much more information in order to understand this one.



posted on Dec, 23 2011 @ 09:10 PM
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I really hope that this story isn't true. If it is, though, the 3 year old didn't necessarily have to aim. The gun could have been on the floor, and maybe the 5 year old was there too. Pulling a trigger doesn't require much strength, but it does imply that a bullet was already in the chamber, which is a pretty clear indication of negligence on the adult, or whomever left a gun with one up lying around. I can't imagine a 3 year old working whatever mechanism was required to load that particular gun, Sad. I so hope it isn't true.



posted on Dec, 23 2011 @ 09:13 PM
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Theres no blame at all for the poor kids left alone with this mentally incapable "adult".

Its really sickening, im lost for better words.



posted on Dec, 23 2011 @ 09:31 PM
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Originally posted by Amanda5


I find it hard to believe a three year old could hold a gun up and aim. I would like to know what type of firearm and why was it out where a Child could find it?

Much Peace ...


Toddler shoots self, baby sister (Feb. 9, 2011)


A 3-year-old boy and his 1-year-old sister remained hospitalized Wednesday after he accidentally fired a pistol in their Macon, Ga., home, police say. Read more: www.upi.com...


North Carolina child, 4, shot by toddler (Sept. 25, 2011)


Charlotte, N.C., police say they filed charges against an adult in the apparent accidental fatal shooting of a 4-year-old girl by a toddler playing with a gun. Read more: www.upi.com...


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I find it hard to believe a three year old could hold a gun up and aim


Sadly all they would need to be able to do is pull the trigger- and have the misfortune to injure/kill themselves, another child or even an adult.


Child accidentally shoots mother, police say (January 13, 2011)


A northeast Nebraska woman was flown by helicopter to a Sioux City hospital today after she was accidentally shot by her young son, investigators said. According to a Dixon County Sheriff's Office statement, a Tohsia Houfek, of Emerson, was shot about 9:26 a.m. in a residence on Street Street in Emerson. Her 4-year-old got the 30.06 rifle from a gun case underneath a bed, the statement said, and it discharged while he was playing with it. Deputies believe the bullet went through a wall and a recliner chair before hitting Houfek in the right side. Read more: www.siouxcityjournal.com...



posted on Dec, 23 2011 @ 09:38 PM
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Sorry, still dont buy it, im sticking to the op. Thanx though



posted on Dec, 23 2011 @ 09:48 PM
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Do I say thank you for telling me this is real?

I wanted it to be a hoax. So sad for everyone involved - everyone is a loser in this one.

Much Peace...to the Children...



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posted on Dec, 23 2011 @ 10:17 PM
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Originally posted by Jebbaroo
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I really hope that this story isn't true. If it is, though, the 3 year old didn't necessarily have to aim. The gun could have been on the floor, and maybe the 5 year old was there too. Pulling a trigger doesn't require much strength, but it does imply that a bullet was already in the chamber, which is a pretty clear indication of negligence on the adult, or whomever left a gun with one up lying around. I can't imagine a 3 year old working whatever mechanism was required to load that particular gun, Sad. I so hope it isn't true.


Im in the Denver area. This is 100% true. It is all over the news. A man that was a guest in the home has been arrested


A 5-year-old boy was fatally shot this morning in Lakewood and police believe he was accidently killed by a 3-year-old.

Lakewood police have arrested a 23-year-old Kansas man in connection with the incident in the 1600 block of Iris Street.

Adam Dean Laham faces charges of child abuse resulting in death, and criminal negligence. Police say he was a family friend staying at the home.

Bonnie Marin, a spokeswoman for the Lakewood Police Department, could not confirm that Laham was at the apartment with the children at the time of the shooting.

Martin said police first responded on a call about a child with a gunshot wound to the chest.

The boy was transported to the hospital where he later died of his injuries.

The investigation is ongoing, but police believe the incident was accidental, Martin said.

Laham was being held Friday night without bond. His first court appearance is scheduled for this morning.



Read more: Man held in fatal accidental shooting of Lakewood 5-year-old; shot fired by 3-year-old - The Denver Post www.denverpost.com...
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