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Iran’s war games could force U.S. to ‘respond aggressively’

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posted on Dec, 23 2011 @ 06:29 PM
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I think this could be the spark that will ignite the ME, honestly, I hope not.
Starting Saturday (a new moon, if I'm not mistaking) Iran will start a 10 day war game in international waters.



Iran’s nuclear push is rapidly turning into a game of chicken with the world’s economy.

Faced with the threat of growing international sanctions and unprecedented economic uncertainty that has seen the value of its currency halved in recent weeks, Iran announced Thursday its navy will stage a 10-day exercise in the Strait of Hormuz, starting Saturday.

The move, which increases the risk of military confrontation with the United States, has the potential to temporarily choke off oil exports from the Middle East, drive up international energy prices and damage the global economy.


And

“Iran’s military and Revolutionary Guards can close the Strait of Hormuz. But such a decision should be made by top establishment leaders,” he said.


Iran’s war games could force U.S. to ‘respond aggressively’
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posted on Dec, 23 2011 @ 06:33 PM
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We'll have to schedule our next real barn burning set of exercises around Iran to follow the exact period of Ramadan. Why not? They have absolutely 0 respect for OUR High Holy Days and are now showing it. I'll bet there are thousands of Sailors, if NO ONE else, who would have liked a rest and a bit of down time on Christmas. So much for that idea. This isn't how to work on public relations and if Tehran was trying to look good here, they missed by thousands of yards.



posted on Dec, 23 2011 @ 06:38 PM
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They just gave notice for the US to adjust their satellites for a ring side seat . That was very nice of them to mention what the heck they plan on doing .



posted on Dec, 23 2011 @ 06:38 PM
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They have the same right to hold Military excerises when and where they want as do other powers who do so on a regalar bases (to piss off neighboring countries I might add). It's an excersise plain and simple. The only thing threaening the closure of the gulf is an over zealous response by NATO/UN/US forces.
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posted on Dec, 23 2011 @ 06:42 PM
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As long as they keep a distance and do not inadvertently fire any shots over our bows things should be fine. There will probably be a few subs in the area keeping an eye on things.



posted on Dec, 23 2011 @ 06:44 PM
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Well, is Iran asking for it or what?
A very blatant plan - even speaking
of closing the canal. I would bet
this won't make it into the 4th day
before the US is in some way
forced to react.

Peaceful thoughts - we're going
to need them.



posted on Dec, 23 2011 @ 06:45 PM
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I can't say nothing will come of this. For some odd reason the Gulf of Tonkin keeps coming to mind. Only took us 40 years to learn that truth.



posted on Dec, 23 2011 @ 06:48 PM
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Originally posted by Skewed
As long as they keep a distance and do not inadvertently fire any shots over our bows things should be fine. There will probably be a few subs in the area keeping an eye on things.


Well, Baird sees it as a threat



OTTAWA - Foreign Affairs Minister John Baird says a planned 10-day military exercise by the Iranian navy on international waters near the mouth of the Persian Gulf is an act of provocation.

The exercise will take Iranian ships in proximity to U.S. vessels patrolling the area beyond the Strait of Hormuz. The area is a key shipping lane for oil and other products.


Iran naval exercise a threat: Baird



posted on Dec, 23 2011 @ 06:51 PM
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I'm beginning to think the only peace we will ever have are moments in our homes and private lives. I'm not sure the world will ever know peace again.



posted on Dec, 23 2011 @ 06:56 PM
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Originally posted by TheLieWeLive
I can't say nothing will come of this. For some odd reason the Gulf of Tonkin keeps coming to mind. Only took us 40 years to learn that truth.

If that doesn't happen during this exercise period, it won't be because the circumstances weren't all lined up very well for it.

The only difference will be a lack of literal fog in the air for confusion and all the players have much much better radar to know what is actually happening. I suppose they'll have to get creative to get around all that, but they are good at that.



posted on Dec, 23 2011 @ 06:57 PM
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Originally posted by samsamm9

Originally posted by Skewed
As long as they keep a distance and do not inadvertently fire any shots over our bows things should be fine. There will probably be a few subs in the area keeping an eye on things.


Well, Baird sees it as a threat



OTTAWA - Foreign Affairs Minister John Baird says a planned 10-day military exercise by the Iranian navy on international waters near the mouth of the Persian Gulf is an act of provocation.

The exercise will take Iranian ships in proximity to U.S. vessels patrolling the area beyond the Strait of Hormuz. The area is a key shipping lane for oil and other products.


Iran naval exercise a threat: Baird


the days when canada was abel to say something intelligent and the world listened is long gone.

canada is just an imperial mouth peice, pushing propaganda as required.

once when they were peace keepers, they were problem solvers, they had respect, today, no one would have any reason to pay attention, they are just an imperial franchise babbling.



posted on Dec, 23 2011 @ 07:02 PM
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In the article it says that Iran Will close the Straight as part of the exercise.


This month, Parviz Sarvari, a member of the Iranian parliament’s National Security Committee, said Iran would close the Strait of Hormuz as part of a military exercise.


And the article also states this about the US being forced into a conflict.


“Considering Washington’s more general — and fundamental — interest in securing freedom of the seas, the U.S. Navy would almost be forced to respond aggressively to any attempt to close the Strait of Hormuz.”


This could very well be the trigger that starts this whole thing. It doesn't sound good. I wish they would have had the common courtesy to have waited until after the Holidays, but I guess War doesn't wait on anything..



posted on Dec, 23 2011 @ 07:07 PM
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Originally posted by Skewed
As long as they keep a distance and do not inadvertently fire any shots over our bows things should be fine. There will probably be a few subs in the area keeping an eye on things.


The nice thing about "inadvertent" is that it works both ways hehehe

second line



posted on Dec, 23 2011 @ 07:17 PM
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We might make it thru Christmas
but we will most likely enter into
2012 with a war on our hands.

I think a lot depends on whether
Iran actually does close the Straight.
We can only hope they don't.



posted on Dec, 23 2011 @ 07:30 PM
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It's just a matter of time. Anybody watching the sequence of events can see what's happening. Iran is slipping away. These sanctions are going to cause a brain drain. In recent years, anybody with sense has left Iran. This is just going to continue. The only people left in Iran will be the dimwits and the hardliners. Israel is pushing for an attack. The US will be pulled into it.

Not much can be done. Iran is getting cocky. IT's all hanging by a thread.
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posted on Dec, 23 2011 @ 07:35 PM
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If they are holding maneuvers within the shipping lanes, they are wrong and action is warranted. Unless they have this kind of support they do not stand a chance if they get too cocky as one poster put it.




posted on Dec, 23 2011 @ 07:43 PM
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Fear Mongering.

Iran has every right to hold naval exercises in international waters. I'm sure the West will be monitoring them closely with Satellites.


They'd be foolish to attempt to block off the Gulf though. It's not just the US they'd be aggravating but pretty much the rest of the world that do business with all the other Gulf States to do so.



posted on Dec, 23 2011 @ 10:10 PM
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Why are you girls so paranoid? This is just an exercise. Iran has already stated the shipping lanes would remain open and safe. No big deal geeze.



posted on Dec, 23 2011 @ 10:17 PM
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Originally posted by Wrabbit2000
We'll have to schedule our next real barn burning set of exercises around Iran to follow the exact period of Ramadan. Why not? They have absolutely 0 respect for OUR High Holy Days and are now showing it. I'll bet there are thousands of Sailors, if NO ONE else, who would have liked a rest and a bit of down time on Christmas. So much for that idea. This isn't how to work on public relations and if Tehran was trying to look good here, they missed by thousands of yards.


Your gung-ho "them vs. us" leaves me all kinds of torn. Considering I'm an amerikan born muslim, do I support you or do I oppose?

The sailors you speak of, are you talkin about the US Navy? Because the entire Irani army is muslim, they don't celebrate Christmas.

Lastly, "Tehran" isn't trying to look good at all. The Irani government has been saying for years that they don't give a flip what western governments think about them, and quite frankly I don't blame them.

Lastly, what respect does the amerikan government show to ramadan other than acknowledging that it's happening at one fast breaking? Though you might think muslims all over are mad that amerika doesn't sleep for the month while we fast, the majority of amerikan muslims don't care. We do our thing, understanding that we don't live in a muslim country.

Basically, go right ahead, hold a military drill during ramadan, see how mad you make ANYBODY... lol



posted on Dec, 23 2011 @ 10:19 PM
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Christmas is traditionally the best time to attack Westerners.
Hell even George Washington did it.


David Grouchy




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