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Originally posted by Signals
There's plenty of countries committing atrocities against their people. Why should Syria be next on our list?
We don't fix anything by intervening, Libya is worse off, arguably so is Iraq...
I hope Russia puts its foot down this time.
(And I say all of this with extreme loyalty towards the USA, we need to stop the wars now!)
Originally posted by Misoir
Now, this is not to say that al – Assad is a peace – loving democrat, because he is not, nor would I expect him to be. There are revolutionaries wanting to take down his regime, and if I were him there would be nothing stopping me from killing each one of them without mercy.
Do not be fooled into thinking several thousand angry protesters represent millions of Syrians. Al – Assad is demanding they halt their actions, they refuse, so he will stomp them out. I doubt he wants to harm civilians but the fact is, in any armed engagement inside cities, there will be innocents lost. Being a military vet, you know that even more than I do.
What are they using torture for?
Originally posted by scratcher
reply to post by MacDonagh
yeah, death and destruction gets boring after a while. Just find it hard to believe this can still happen , where are the UN troops, where is the humanitarian aid?edit on 23-12-2011 by scratcher because: and a merry xmas to you too
Originally posted by SLAYER69
What's next?
How should the growing situation be resolved?
In recent months, dissident soldiers have broken from the military to side with peaceful protesters and have attacked government forces. But Friday's attack was qualitatively different, adding new and ominous dimensions to a conflict that has already brought the country to the brink of civil war.
Originally posted by scratcher
reply to post by Misoir
So let me get this in perspective, a few murders and bombings , a dictatorship government, the economy going down the toilet, but everythings fine, sounds familiar.
Originally posted by nenothtu
ALSO: A word to the wise - when two brothers are pounding hell out of each other in a barroom brawl, DO NOT try to step in and break it up. The usual result is that they BOTH turn on you, and just start pounding hell out of you.
Originally posted by Misoir
A woman I know that emigrated here from Syria about 20 years ago just came back from visiting family in Syria, she told me that there was nothing going on like what is being reported on the news here. The people, according to her, have never been as united as they are now. She had nothing very negative to say about al – Assad; it was not like she was praising him either. Her family apparently owns a successful store in Syria and they are doing fine.
She even said that once her youngest child finishes schooling here that they are moving back to Syria because, as she said, the United States is not what they want you to think it is. The economy is horrible, something is ‘very wrong with the people’, and our government/media are compulsive liars. Then she asked if I wanted to kill her family and people, I said “why would I want to kill any of you? You are a very nice person, and I assume your family is much like you”. Which was honest on my part, I despise the wars and military intervention in the Middle East.
Then it led to her asking if I would like to go to Syria when she returns, I could help run the store. Obviously I kindly said no, I do not know much about the country nor can I speak Arabic. But my point here is that, much, if not all, of what you hear from the media are outright LIES. I would trust someone who has been there within the past month, who has firsthand experience, to give me a more honest review, even if slightly biased, than our US warmongering media and government.
Agreed and discussing the atrocities being carried out in these various countries should be open and honest. What can be done to reduce it? Can we come up with any solutions other than intervention?
Originally posted by Signals
reply to post by SLAYER69
There's plenty of countries committing atrocities against their people. Why should Syria be next on our list?
We don't fix anything by intervening, Libya is worse off, arguably so is Iraq...
I hope Russia puts its foot down this time.
(And I say all of this with extreme loyalty towards the USA, we need to stop the wars now!)