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Do Most Members of ATS Have Any College Education?

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posted on Dec, 23 2011 @ 11:30 PM
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reply to post by Jebbaroo
 


Well, here's one that only has four replies, when the OP linked to an archive of articles on everything from how to open a coconut, to starting a fire using only your cell phone.

Again, if it don't bring the trolls, it doesn't matter to ATS




posted on Dec, 23 2011 @ 11:36 PM
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school of hard knocks. class of '98. also graduated egregia cum laude (with outstanding honor) from kick ass academy.



posted on Dec, 24 2011 @ 12:10 AM
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I'll weigh in..

BA in Liberal Arts, Political Science (general)
Plus a semester of grad school in the same.
Pi Sigma Alpha (Poli Sci Honor Society).


Originally I was going to emphasize in International Relations, because I was also an ROTC cadet and was interested in military intelligence. When a medical condition caused me to not be able to gain a commission I switched to pre law as I was thinking of going to law school. Because of the variety of classes I could probably get a second bachelor's in history with in a year if I wished.

While my degree has checked the box on some job apps, it's hard to say it's gotten me somewhere. I have entertained the idea of getting a masters, but never really committed. I currently work as a Training Manager for a major company, making about 50k a year.

Honestly, some of the best education I got was in the Boy Scouts (2nd class) and as a Civil Air Patrol Cadet (completed the entire program cadet/LtCol, but aged out before getting my Spaatz Award.

In particular, CAP taught me basic management and leadership, public speaking, survival skills, advanced first aid, basic aviation and aerospace knowledge, basic military skills, etc. I spent my teen summers on Air Force bases, learning about military careers, including attending the international AIr Cadet Exchange, sending me to Germany and Belgium.

I agree with Dave Ramsey, the financial planner, that a college education is a semi farce raised on the American People....putting them in more debt and enriching universities for degrees in "underwater basket weaving". Unless you are going to college for certain professional degrees (law, medical, certain engineering programs, nursing, etc) It's probably a waste of your time and money.


On the flip side. I think this site has some very intelligent posters. Some officially educated and some not. I also though have noticed in the past 5 to 10 years (had a previous screen name) that the discussions in years past were much more civil, much more technical, and much more "educated" then today. I think there are to many teens on here that have little or no education, formal or life.

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posted on Dec, 24 2011 @ 12:18 AM
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Not to offend teens.......When I was a CAP cadet I worked with some of the best teens I have ever known, and the cadets today are just as good if not better. We had several cadets in my squadron that had soloed an aircraft by 16. 2 were EMT's before 17. 1 of our cadets was accepted to the Air Force Academy. About 10 of us were certified to be on a disaster relief/search and rescue team by age 16.

I guess when I was saying teens I meant more of the "I don't study, I don't work, I just sit on the net all day types" I run into.. Several of them I train at work. No thinking skills or work ethic...ugh!



posted on Dec, 24 2011 @ 12:24 AM
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6 ? pages later...LOL

yes i went to College..

had a Scholarship to a FINE School.....

i was a music major
Quit before Graduation .. but would have graduated

Musthave cum loudly..

i SANG my way through 3 years..FREE..-. flew around the world...- and BUSSED around the continent..lol

never learned anything of "substance" but learned self reliance,,, which i find MORE useful...


i own my own biz.. and make a good living...

self plug time~~~~(how i earn $200.00 an hour)~~~ www.abovetopsecret.com...

did you answer you questions with All the response???


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posted on Dec, 24 2011 @ 12:34 AM
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Thanks for a good question OP.

I have a degree in digital filmmaking e.g. editing and motion graphics, photography and various graphic based programs such as Photoshop. I also know audio production pretty well, since my girlfriend is an audio engineer.

I am constantly surprised at the amount of lens flare photos I see on ATS... but, it's always better to ask and get an answer then never to ask at all.

Later,
covermind



posted on Dec, 24 2011 @ 12:42 AM
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I attended Purdue Calumet University and three years currently at Devry-so far-I can make a home page for my dog. We all are thinkers on ATS-well most of us anyway.



posted on Dec, 24 2011 @ 12:49 AM
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Exactly my thoughts....you do not need a piece of paper to think.



posted on Dec, 24 2011 @ 01:51 AM
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I have very little formal education i made it to 9th grade..I own a farm and make a decent living selling cattle .. I have learned that one of my goals for life is to be generous and not selfish. I feel that this is important because I am very fortunate with all I have and some people are a lot less so, so I should share what I have with them and help make the world become more balanced.
I have learned that you need to believe in yourself to be able to reach your goals and that college degree really does not determine how smart someone is...Peace,sugarcookie1



posted on Dec, 24 2011 @ 01:57 AM
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Hi,

I have to agree that education doesn't make intelligence. It mainly pushes one form of development and greatly needs to be rethought on many levels. It also pushes a certain point of view and sells it as fact even when it is not the case. School often measures your ability to memorize instead of your comprehension of the topics at hand..... in other words even idiots could pass.

Having said that I have a college degree, and I have to say that on more than a few levels it opened my mind... mostly about some of the cruel stuff happening all over the world.

I just started University in Environmental Studies, which encompasses a few different disciplines, this is something good. Now I'm not going there assuming that everything they tell me is absolute truth, but to say that you don't learn at school is also wrong... for someone that looks at the information with an open mind can distinguish the bull**** from the interesting. Maybe this open-mindeness I owe to ATS?!?!

When you reach a higher level of schooling you realize that not all professors are the same and some actually are there to open your horizons.. EXAMPLE: One biology prof, also doing research in evolution, stated over and over that evolution is not a hard fact, but a way of interpreting evidence, he also mentioned the way in which research is conducted. You give yourself a guideline... a theory... to guide your experiments... if the experiment corroborates the theory, you try again and again to make sure. If it does not corroborate (AND HERE IS THE PROBLEM), you put it aside and work on something else... waiting for us to understand better how it fits. I say it's about time we stop trying to "fit" everything and actually look at all those pieces of the puzzle that we tossed aside... who knows maybe we'll gain better understanding of the world.

Although you don't need a scholar degree to be smart or get informed, the degree is seldom important... since you still gain knowledge... instead of shunning it... and build on that using alternative sources.... no need for school to change the world in your own way... but that all depends on which aspect of life you want to make better.... me, I chose to work for the environment sinve it's our home and can't really live withour it... hoping to eventually work on projects to make our cities more efficient and eco-friendly.... plus a nice touch of "feels good to be home" feeling that we could draw if we used our potential and technology in a better way.....

sorry for ranting...lol



posted on Dec, 24 2011 @ 03:42 AM
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Originally posted by NeoVain
While i have done 16 years in school here in sweden (University as well as College), i must agree with some previous posters that you learn more in a day at the library than in those lectures. Also i would add, the internet, is the "library of today". Between wikipedia, all the free documentaries and vast amounts of websites specialised in various topics, i would say the internet is even better than any library, today. One day online can get your more information and certainly is a lot more pedagogic way of learning than reading a book, in many cases.

The scholars of tomorrow are full-time internet ninjas.


I'd have to disagree - on principle

In Denmark every book in a public or university library has been chosen to be there. We have laws regarding the quality of works we put in the library simply because 1) it is tax money and 2) we do not want to present our patrons with false information.

And the databases to which we grant access are under constant scrutiny and we weed out false or wrong information when we find it.

It has been established more than once that the way we find information on Google is accepting one of the links on the first or second page because they support the idea you already have. And Google put sites up front for two reasons - Have they paid to get there or do many other sites link to it (nothing to do with quality).

Wikipedia has been shown to be false on many occasions. People deliberately plant false information which is then quoted on other sites. These quotes end up on page one or two in Google even if the false information has been removed from Wikipedia.



Also i would add, the internet, is the "library of today".


The Internet is an information bucket where the "waters get murkier as you stir it".

A library is a collection of information gleened from reputable sources,



The scholars of tomorrow are full-time internet ninjas.


Wrong again.
The scholars of tomorrow are the ones who have learned to find trustworthy information. Probably in printed material. Printed material stay as it is. On the internet data can become corrupt by omission, choice or by accident.

And to stay in ATS paranoia - Once we find reliable information we need to print it. That way no one can change facts by changing a website or database.



posted on Dec, 24 2011 @ 03:47 AM
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On the nose.
Unfortunately your post will go the way of the quality threads.



posted on Dec, 24 2011 @ 04:20 AM
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I was just quickly skimming over this thread, and realize that I am seeing a lot of [color=AD835E]BS.

You can find [color=AD835E]BS on every page of this thread.

It's not surprising though. I already assumed that most of you had a Degree in [color=AD835E]BS.



posted on Dec, 24 2011 @ 07:47 AM
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I have a black belt in Google-Fu?

I went to college and dropped out because I wanted to earn money instead. And party



posted on Dec, 24 2011 @ 08:43 AM
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Originally posted by BrokenCircles
I was just quickly skimming over this thread, and realize that I am seeing a lot of [color=AD835E]BS.

You can find [color=AD835E]BS on every page of this thread.

It's not surprising though. I already assumed that most of you had a Degree in [color=AD835E]BS.


It is difficult for you to accept that other people on ATS are educated to degree level and beyond. Do you have terciary qualifications? If not, it is never too late to go to university and there is plenty grant-in-aid funding available but you will have to get accustomed to living on a student's income.

You can of course get vocational training as an EMT or aircraft mechanic, etc. and an employer may pay while you work for them. In my opinion, these skills are just as good as a BSc. degree.

Do not begrudge ATSers of their successes. It comes across as mean spirited.
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posted on Dec, 24 2011 @ 08:52 AM
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I graduated from high school in 1973.I did "graduate" from
a floral design school in 2004.I have a diploma from high
school and a certificate from the floral school.
You can take courses and get a certificate to prove you
passed.I know that it's not the same as attending college
and getting a degree but you still learn something.



posted on Dec, 24 2011 @ 09:24 AM
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Really? You should read the entire thread instaed of "skimming" before you make such a comment. It's not very flattering to you.... and as the above poster said, comes off as rude.



posted on Dec, 24 2011 @ 09:41 AM
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I was "forced" to quit high school in 2002 at the age of 15
Joined the military at 20 and they proceded to give me college credit...if that counts

would be on my way to a degree in electrical engineering until the military decided to "downsize", I became victim to that. i was "seperated" for being tardy 15 mins to muster, Lost my job, Lost my house, lost my GI Bill and lost unemployment benfits, all for showing up for work at 0700 as opposed to 0645. For all you young people looking to the military for college benifits DONT #IN DO IT. It will not take long to feel the long, dry, spiked phallus that is the US Military



posted on Dec, 24 2011 @ 10:28 AM
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L/CPL USMC
Bachelor of Science, Northeastern University (Boston) 1993
President of my class, Federal Law Enforcement Training Center, Glynco GA 1999
Songwriter/Publisher (BMI)



posted on Dec, 24 2011 @ 10:55 AM
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That's very strange. My son joined the Army in 1998 and finished his tour in 2004 and then got his math degree paid for by the Army. Now he is in law school and they are paying him for that as well. Seems like a good deal to me. I still have $50,000 left to go on my own school loans. Guess I should have joined the military.



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