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Topic started on 23-12-2011 @ 02:13 AM by wutz4tom

Four ex-players sue NFL alleging brain damage

www.reuters.com

(Reuters) - Four former National Football League players, including two Pro Bowl players, sued the league over brain injuries that they say left them facing medical problems years after their careers ended.
Dorsey Levens and Jamal Lewis, both named to the annual All-Star Pro Bowl, as well as Fulton Kuykendall and Ryan Stewart, filed the lawsuit against the National Football League and NFL Properties LLC on Wednesday in U.S. District Court in Atlanta.The suits are the latest in a series filed against the NFL in recent months by former players who say the league did not do enough to protect the

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reply posted on 23-12-2011 @ 02:13 AM by wutz4tom

Whatever happened to being responsible for your own choices?
You can't tell me that after getting slammed to the ground and battered by 300lb professional athletes, they didn't know there was some serious potential for brain damage.
Appears to me while the money is coming in they ignore the obvious.Then when the funds dry up they are looking to cash in..
Don't they sign contracts?

www.reuters.com
(visit the link for the full news article)

reply posted on 23-12-2011 @ 02:21 AM by HumanoidX

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sports.yahoo.com...
here is another link
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reply posted on 23-12-2011 @ 03:03 AM by Manhater

Excuse me, but they are the ones who choose the career.

In all reality, whose fault is it really?

They get paid all these big bucks, and after a life of partying it up,they want more because they spent it all?

Not saying they don't have brain damage, but what did you think you were going to get playing football? Scraps and bruises?

You know the sport is dangerous and you knew the risk when you went in.

No sympathy here.

reply posted on 23-12-2011 @ 03:10 AM by BadBoYeed

how long before it becomes the N.F.F.L.

National Flag Football league

give it a few years....total B.S.

reply posted on 23-12-2011 @ 03:15 AM by wutz4tom

reply to post by Manhater

yeah thats my thought as well. When did suing become a professsion? could we sue them for unreasonable salaries?

reply posted on 23-12-2011 @ 03:16 AM by wutz4tom

reply to post by BadBoYeed

dont they think that far ahead to what the end result might be.

reply posted on 23-12-2011 @ 03:34 AM by Manhater

Originally posted by wutz4tom
reply to post by Manhater

yeah thats my thought as well. When did suing become a professsion? could we sue them for unreasonable salaries?

I should sue them for giving me brain damage from reading the news article.

reply posted on 23-12-2011 @ 03:45 AM by Wrabbit2000

I have a question that makes all the difference between a valid lawsuit and frivolous garbage. Did the NFL compel them to return to the game or did they simply allow it by not medically dropping them from the game? If they'd just said no after getting their bell rung, would they have suffered any sanction of any kind?

If they weren't essentially forced to rejoin the game, it's a grab for more money by has been's, IMO. I have little to no sympathy for people who made millions playing a game and then complain about going right back in to play after only they could truly know how hard they got rung, and still walked back out themselves.

reply posted on 23-12-2011 @ 04:02 AM by PhoenixOD

Wheres the conspiracy ?

reply posted on 23-12-2011 @ 04:02 AM by ReadyPower

Originally posted by Wrabbit2000
I have a question that makes all the difference between a valid lawsuit and frivolous garbage. Did the NFL compel them to return to the game or did they simply allow it by not medically dropping them from the game? If they'd just said no after getting their bell rung, would they have suffered any sanction of any kind?

If they weren't essentially forced to rejoin the game, it's a grab for more money by has been's, IMO. I have little to no sympathy for people who made millions playing a game and then complain about going right back in to play after only they could truly know how hard they got rung, and still walked back out themselves.

That's a good question- I hope this gives some answer-

The NFLPA declined comment until it receives more information. There's an inquiry into Dielman's concussion because of some unusual circumstances surrounding the injury. He was concussed with about 12 minutes left in last Sunday's game against the New York Jets, after which he struggled to maintain balance. He finished the game despite the head injury and was not assessed until after the loss to New York. The Chargers announced the injury shortly before the team boarded a plane for San Diego.

www.nfl.com...

So this player (Kris Dielman) got hit, and he stood up, then fell down again.. nobody on the Chargers noticed- or even checked him out and he finished. On the flight home he had a seizure.

In another case-

BEREA, Ohio -- Although James Harrison's devastating, illegal hit on Colt McCoy was witnessed by millions on television and thousands at Heinz Field, Cleveland's medical staff did not realize the severity of the blow when they treated the Browns quarterback.

During a nearly one-hour news conference, Holmgren explained that McCoy was not checked for a concussion on the sideline after the hit because he wasn't showing symptoms. Also, the team's medical and training staffs were unaware of the impact of Harrison's helmet-to-face mask hit because they were on the sideline working on other injured players.

espn.go.com...

Here are two cases where the placers had concussions and continued to play- for one reason they did NOT get proper medical attention on the field.

So.. to counter those saying "oh its a dangerous game they should know the risks"
Well, you can't always blame the players who are under major pressure to play and perform, even when hurt. Put it this way, if you are coaching a high school team, and you notice a player limping but ignore it- are you not as responsible if he damages it more?
These are just 2 cases.. now I am not defending the players who are suing because I don't know their deals. Just trying to point out that some guys are allowed to play hurt, or soon after getting a concussion because the pressure to win is so high.

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reply posted on 23-12-2011 @ 04:19 AM by Bob Sholtz

if they've heard of mike tyson, then they have no excuse.

yeah, brain damage sucks, but did they really not know that hitting your head repeatedly with lots of force does damage?

i think their multi-million dollar salaries are fair enough compensation, considering they already knew the risks.

reply posted on 23-12-2011 @ 04:22 AM by OwenGP185

Originally posted by wutz4tom

Four ex-players sue NFL alleging brain damage

www.reuters.com

(Reuters) - Four former National Football League players, including two Pro Bowl players, sued the league over brain injuries that they say left them facing medical problems years after their careers ended.
Dorsey Levens and Jamal Lewis, both named to the annual All-Star Pro Bowl, as well as Fulton Kuykendall and Ryan Stewart, filed the lawsuit against the National Football League and NFL Properties LLC on Wednesday in U.S. District Court in Atlanta.The suits are the latest in a series filed against the NFL in recent months by former players who say the league did not do enough to protect the
(visit the link for the full news article)

Did not do enough to protect them? They should be glad they were born in the US, in Eurpoe its rugby and no huge pads and helmets as protection.

reply posted on 23-12-2011 @ 05:13 AM by Wrabbit2000

reply to post by OwenGP185

You're mistaking American football for a real game where men really mix it up. It's a commercial enterprise for entertainment these days.

reply posted on 23-12-2011 @ 09:21 AM by chasingbrahman

Originally posted by Wrabbit2000
I have a question that makes all the difference between a valid lawsuit and frivolous garbage. Did the NFL compel them to return to the game or did they simply allow it by not medically dropping them from the game? If they'd just said no after getting their bell rung, would they have suffered any sanction of any kind?

If they weren't essentially forced to rejoin the game, it's a grab for more money by has been's, IMO. I have little to no sympathy for people who made millions playing a game and then complain about going right back in to play after only they could truly know how hard they got rung, and still walked back out themselves.

This is a critical point that surprisingly took this long to make. If a player's livelihood were threatened if he didn't return to the game, then there's definitely a case here. There isn't an employer in the US who can knowingly endanger an employee and still have a legal leg to stand on when the employee is permanently injured. Anyone who sincerely believes that an athletic coach doesn't have a responsibility toward his players' well-being would do well to coach themselves through a basejumping competition.

reply posted on 23-12-2011 @ 02:32 PM by justsaying

I agree with the sentiment of everyone here. It's their choice to play. They know the risks. Next thing will be anyone wanting to play pro football will have to sign a waiver not holding the NFL responsible for their injuries.

reply posted on 23-12-2011 @ 07:34 PM by ReadyPower

Um, hello.
I posted two examples of 2 players, 2 teams, THIS season who had concussions and their teams did not even notice, so they let them play... hell, one team let one of these guys (their rookie QB) play next week!

In one example, a QB got DRILLED... and in the other a guy got hit hard and stood up, and feel down again.. nobody noticed or cared. (well all the fans in the stadium and millions watching on tv noticed the QB get drilled) but somehow the Browns coaching staff and trainers didn't)

So please somebody explain how the teams or the league is not at least partially responsible for allowing players with concussions to play?

(Oh they know the risks!!!) So if you work on a boat, and fall in the water... if nobody saves you, its your fault you drown because "you knew the risks?"... your employee has some responsibility to not let injured people work.

For evidence:

YouTube Link

or www.youtube.com...

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reply posted on 23-12-2011 @ 08:34 PM by kaylaluv

Originally posted by ReadyPower

(Oh they know the risks!!!) So if you work on a boat, and fall in the water... if nobody saves you, its your fault you drown because "you knew the risks?"... your employee has some responsibility to not let injured people work.

But falling in the water is not part of the job of working on a boat. An essential part of your job in football is to smash into another human being with all the force you can muster; the risk of getting hurt is directly tied to performing the job.

Football is the most asinine sport on the planet. I have never understood the attraction to it.

reply posted on 23-4-2012 @ 11:27 PM by flimzytrek

The 62-year-old former Atlanta Falcons star was suing NFL amid claims it covered up links between football and brain injuries He is thought to have developed chronic traumatic encephalopathy - or 'punch drunk syndrome' after repeated blows to the head during career

Originally posted by wutz4tom

Four ex-players sue NFL alleging brain damage

www.reuters.com

(Reuters) - Four former National Football League players, including two Pro Bowl players, sued the league over brain injuries that they say left them facing medical problems years after their careers ended.
Dorsey Levens and Jamal Lewis, both named to the annual All-Star Pro Bowl, as well as Fulton Kuykendall and Ryan Stewart, filed the lawsuit against the National Football League and NFL Properties LLC on Wednesday in U.S. District Court in Atlanta.The suits are the latest in a series filed against the NFL in recent months by former players who say the league did not do enough to protect the
(visit the link for the full news article)

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reply posted on 29-8-2012 @ 12:17 PM by A51TR3B

reply to post by wutz4tom

I know myself playing at the High school level, playing football is taking a big risk. It should be common sense to anyone who plays that its possible to get injured, and possibly even killed. On our high school football helmets there is a paragraph posted on a sticker on the back saying how football is a dangerous sport, and it is our choice to play and accept the chances of receiving a head injury. It also goes on to say how the helmets are NOT designed to prevent brain damage, concussions, and possibly even death. The helmets ARE designed to help lower these chances, and create a safer piece of equipment for the player.

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