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Originally posted by mysterioustranger
They could be millions of years ahead of us. You missed the obvious:: that they dont "use radio-waves" for communicating. Thats YOUR understanding and technology and very limited.
Youre assuming they have to communicate on our ancient level...but its all you have to compare to. Not your fault...but widely un-realistic.
Originally posted by gimme_some_truth
Very good point. Would WE try to communicate with aliens using a smoke signal? I really doubt it. Our radio waves, coulde be there smoke signal, so to speak.
Originally posted by CharonIncarnate
reply to post by fuserleer
Or because they are here and have been for a long time...
Originally posted by miniatus
We evolved our technology for communication in our own way, in our own time, with our own needs and with knowledge we picked up along the way .. This I think is the biggest problem we face with talking about alien species.
We don't even fully understand how animals on our own planet communicate with each other yet we know that they do, and especially in the case of whales and dolphins who communicate with actual structured language ..
We can't even conceive what other possible means of technology, or even physical communication they've developed.. Maybe they've evolved beyond the need for using technology to communicate? how could we even intercept that? .. and would we ever understand it anyway? Perhaps quantum science is silly and archaic to them? or perhaps they've evolved along a path where quantum isn't even a consideration..
Ultimately I think we just make far too many assumptions that life will have evolved in a similar way on an alien world as it has here, same with technological evolution.. we assume too much.
An advanced civ would be smart enough to still use simple radio waves in the event an inferior species on another planet couldn't communicate or receive with anything better. You're assuming said advanced civ will be "Elvish" enough to figure they're above inferior species and not worth their time. Also how could you not want contact with peoples of a different planet no matter who you are? It's the biggest planet shattering infos you could ever learn to be true without a shred of doubt. If they're mean you're in trouble but if they're nice it could mean everything to you. It's up to said advanced civ(assuming they even exist)whether or not to take the risk of contact but just to know? I imagine it's as important to them as it is to us.
Originally posted by mysterioustranger
reply to post by WingedBull
Im not assuming anything what-so-ever. I know about I Love Lucy returns still churning out in space.
My point if you'd have understood it...was that to assume they are trying by "radio" waves...is widely pessimistic. And also widely unrealistic in the vastness of space, time and distance.
Radio is very primivite among all the means available...even those we have no idea or knowledge about...as they will see when they catch a few episodes of "Sanford and Son" and "American Idol".
All your points too were valid...but ones I assumed was understood by you already. Perhaps not. Going forward, its obvious there are other means more advanced than simple radio waves. And why would they want to contact us when they are so far advanced that they really dont need too?
was that to assume they are trying by "radio" waves...is widely pessimistic. And also widely unrealistic in the vastness of space, time and distance.
Originally posted by steveknows
why is it that people with no evidence and only guesses( pro aliens visitng earth) call other people with no proof only guesses (anti aliens visiting earth) ignorant? Mind you the second group have that fact that no aliens have landed in a city for all the world to see.
Why is it that the pro alien mob assume that an advanced alien race( if there is one and you've not a tad of proof)
wouldn't think to use basic communication to try to find less advanced races?
Why are we always classed as the cave man when we may very well be the most advanced in our galaxy alone.
I think that the pro alien people are very down on the human race due to something wrong in their life.