Why Does the Left Try so hard to Justify Terrorists in the Middle East?, page 1
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Topic started on 22-12-2011 @ 05:21 PM by jjf3rd77
Radical Muslims are more extreme than the right wing of America FYI. They do all of their "activities" based on their religious mythology. The Jihad is strong in Muslim countries. They want to ignite a religious war against any non-Muslim believers. Now, of course not all Muslims want this just the extremists, and unfortunately there are a lot of them.

So when the "right-wing" talk about how there is a Muslim problem, or Muslims attacked us on 9/11. They are right in the context that the extreme Muslims play in this world! Of course the biggest one being that Bin Laden targeted USA in the name of Allah. But I guess that's a conspiracy theory huh?

Another lame excuse the left gives is that we shouldn't hurt the terrorists because then we should hurt all extremist groups or none at all. In America, it doesn't work that way. We don't have a "commie" problem because (today) they are a relatively small group of people with little political power. Same with any other small religious cult or political party. We can't kill an idea no and I agree with that, but we can kill the leaders of the movement and show them how wrong they were to attack our country in the name of their religion.


Die Hard Christians are just as extreme as the terrorists???



Are you kidding me? Wake up! The very people the left sympathizes with support want to kill Gays and Atheists too! At least Christians are pretty tolerant of them. Christians aren't going to kill their relatives if they find out they are atheists that argument was very weak. The jihad/extreme Muslim idea is to kill Americans to spread Islam just like we do the same thing to spread democracy. This type of rationalization terrorism will mean that everyone is extreme and thus would destroy freedom of speech. (maybe that's why we have NDAA today) Which not everyone has, especially in the Muslim world. As my father says, "everyone is crazy different."


Violence is not the answer:



The "peace-loving" "Anti-War" left insist that because these people attacked us on 9/11 we shouldn't have done anything about it? We should have studied them and figured out why they did this and sit down and talk to them about it? Muslim extremists attacked us on 9/11 in the name of their God spreading their religious mythology onto others! That is a FACT! Stated by numerous politicians, religious leaders, and International Government Agencies. To just sit around is one of the worst foreign policy practices! Lolz. Psycho-babble doesn't work on terrorists who hate our country based on their religious mythology and our ideals! You can't make extremists change their minds.


There is no simple reason for their attacks:



Are you kidding? They scream Allah at the top of their lungs and pray eight hours a day before doing such attacks. It's a religious journey for them almost because they do not want to live in the physical world anymore and they are called to give to the cause of the Jihad Holy War.

Their Calendar is backwards:



Yes, I have actually heard this excuse before. Really, If it's the year 1379 in their calendar then why was it ok to use bombs, modern technology, and planes to attack us? huh? That argument insisting that the it is ok for the Extremists to be backwards because their calendar is, is ridiculous.


Education is the answer!:



Many of the countries believe our type of education is American or European Propaganda and don't want it taught in their school systems. So, it's their own fault on that one too!

Ok if getting rid of them is not the answer what is? The left finds it difficult to reason with right wing religious Americans, how do you expect to talk to extreme Muslims who want to kill America and everything it stands for? You just cannot talk to these people. That's why we are hunting down all of AL-Qaeda's leaders with drones (which is more preferable than full out wars-- even with collateral damage).

Why shouldn't the US, go into those countries and try to "educate" them about democracy? As the left insists put it. After the wars, that's what we do eventually. Although recently thanks to the internet the people have discovered a whole different world out there and are converting to democracy on their own. (See: Egypt & Arab Spring) If we want them to grow up out of their extreme traditions, this has been pretty much the only way to do so. Force the lesser of two evils onto the people and see what happens. Of course it's not ideal, but if we were living in an ideal world, there would never be any fighting over religion. Hopefully with advances in social networking and the internet those people will begin to wake up and see the error of their ways.


It's the Dictators and Society's Fault:



The left say it's the dictators fault and then you say we shouldn't try to force them to change? Why not! Especially when their own traditions (when a majority justify suicide bombings) are harmful to themselves. You do realize how long its going to take the Middle East, which are run by terrorists and Extremists a very long time to escape from their holy war. The majority of Muslims in the west have but even then there are still those who secretly support it or can finance it thanks to American money. You do realize what hate filled propaganda is being taught in schools like Saudi Arabia and in those countries before the wars right? You are very lucky to have grown up in Europe or USA. You can't go around blaming everyone else for the extremists actions. They do what they do and there is very little you can do to change that. US tried with aggressive foreign policy and of course it doesn't work as nicely as our leaders would have us believe. If a war doesn't work what will? Surely not education lolz. But I think Iraq was the last "pointless war" as Ron Paul says. We'll see more little wars with Drones and such when we want to target a group of terrorists that want to kill us half way around the world.

I find it laughable that some people would defend the "poor terrorists" and then attack me or other right wing conservative people with past examples of ignorance and supposed propaganda based education. I guess the point I am trying to make is if you hate the way the right views Muslims and terrorists in General, why do you continue to find any excuse to justify terrorists actions?

*Again, this post is only directed towards the certain views about the Muslims Extremists--Not Muslims in general!!!
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reply posted on 22-12-2011 @ 06:05 PM by Cuervo
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If I were to look objectively at the Middle East scenario and compare the violent acts against one another, I'd say the most destructive terrorists in the Middle East are the ones with drones and an actual military.


reply posted on 22-12-2011 @ 06:16 PM by Miraj
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While I don't condone terrorism, I don't think any of us do..

Have you ever considered that we became a target, because we made ourselves ones? I know, the right wingers here will say "Oh just another liberal blaming America."

And it's not that I'm blaming America. To some degree I am, but I have a hard time finding any other logical reason for us to become a target, other than that we have consistently for the past fifty or more years involved ourselves in their affairs for nothing other than our own profit. The foundation of right wingers saying, "It's cuz we're free!" is simply insane. It's a poor rationalization offered to us by politicians who want to make us feel good while inspiring us to support their holy war.

This war between our cultures will never end until was recognize our part in it, and stop playing victims of tyrants.

So OP, I ask you. Why does the right refuse to see that we have provoked this war to our shores?

Sure, we'll never make peace with an organization such as Al Qaeda, but we can make peace with the rest of them. Perhaps if we truly made ourselves friends to the muslim world, they wouldn't be so intent on turning a blind eye to people that would do us harm, or going so far as to aid them.

In addition, look what this war has cost us. Money, rights, lives. All things we know are important, but we have thrown all of these things into a war that can never be won.


reply posted on 22-12-2011 @ 06:23 PM by jjf3rd77
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I agree that America has had a turn in helping spread the lies and the extremes but it's their own fault too. And all the excuses that i listed does not justify terrorist activities! The left needs to realize this, and I think many on the right know this because they love wars anyway. A lot of right wing Americans, study up on certain eras of American War history and realize that the Good we do usually outweighs the bad things in foreign affairs. Now, it might be coming back to bite us in the rears!


reply posted on 22-12-2011 @ 06:25 PM by jjf3rd77
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Sigh, I personally don't like titles either but everyone generalizes. I'm sorry I just think that the excuses that "peace-loving" "anti-War" people give are ridiculous.


reply posted on 22-12-2011 @ 06:40 PM by Intrud3r
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Would you please stop writing "lolz"? It just makes your arguments look more ridicilious than they already are.
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reply posted on 22-12-2011 @ 07:06 PM by Miraj
reply to post by jjf3rd77



We don't look to justify. There's no justification for murder, save for self defense. We only look to explain, and to see what we can change.

The right by definition has no wish to change, they simply want to kill all the muslims and say they won. Why wish for a victory in a war that cannot be won?


reply posted on 22-12-2011 @ 07:18 PM by CaDreamer
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i agree with everything you stated...even though you are a partisan shill
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