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A Paradoxical Dilemma Concerning The Size Of Ufo's And Aliens

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posted on Dec, 23 2011 @ 09:50 AM
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reply to post by RavenSpeaks
 
The electromagnetic spectrum is the range of all possible frequencies of electromagnetic radiation and i have read about a theory which stated the possibility that hell/eternal death/where evil dwells is literally one end of the spectrum,radio waves and heaven/eternal life/where good dwells is literally the other end of the spectrum,gamma rays...Something very much like that anyways and i looked for a half an hour for a link but couldnt find it,but i do have it copied somewhere...


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posted on Dec, 23 2011 @ 10:14 AM
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Why are we not seeing ufo's and flying saucers 1 inch big or even a little smaller?...We should be...


Complex organic lifeforms need to be a certain size at minimum. At least carbon based lifeforms...

Also, if they were that small, we would hardly ever see them because they're so small...


Why are we not seeing ufo's and flying saucers 100 miles across or even much larger?...We should be


The moon is a vessel.
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posted on Dec, 23 2011 @ 11:47 AM
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i think it would have to do with how much oxygen was present in a planets atmosphere,as for carbon based life,which is one fairly solid theory about why most dinosaurs on earth were so large and one of them, thats been confirmed,the huge Argentinosaurus weighed around 100 tons and was 120ft long,so aliens could easily be that big and even more...

Others not proven but for which evidence does exist are the...

Bruhathkayosaurus,which weighed between 175-220 tons and was around 144ft long...

Seismosaurus,which was around 148 ft long...

The 10 largest dinosaurs > dinosaurs.about.com...


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posted on Dec, 23 2011 @ 01:47 PM
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Originally posted by blocula
reply to post by avatar01
 
i think it would have to do with how much oxygen was present in a planets atmosphere,as for carbon based life,which is one fairly solid theory about why most dinosaurs on earth were so large and one of them, thats been confirmed,the huge Argentinosaurus weighed around 100 tons and was 120ft long,so aliens could easily be that big and even more...

Others not proven but for which evidence does exist are the...

Bruhathkayosaurus,which weighed between 175-220 tons and was around 144ft long...

Seismosaurus,which was around 148 ft long...

The 10 largest dinosaurs > dinosaurs.about.com...


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You forgot the ones with very bad eyesight...............

The doyouthinkhesaurus



posted on Dec, 23 2011 @ 11:55 PM
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Its possible that our moon is an ancient space ship,a mother ship.A noahs ark that rescued enough of humanity from a dying world to start again on a new planet they named earth.The ancient spaceship moon, similar in size to the death star in star wars,may have been built in orbit around mars,when humanity,who once lived there,realized that their planet was becoming uninhabitable.The martian atmosphere was going to be altered beyond repair by perhaps massive solar flares,a prolonged gamma ray burst,or even from some long forgotten interstellar war and it was the only way to salvage some of themselves...


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posted on Dec, 24 2011 @ 03:58 PM
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What about the Dilemma of life span? Could the same Grey Aliens been visiting mankind for millions of years? Maybe we are the small ones, do you know how much larger Earth like planets are compared to us, and how much larger stars are compared to our star? Do you know of any Earth-like planets that are significantly smaller than us, that could theoretically house tiny intelligent beings?

5 mile tall aliens would be in a very large space ship.. it's approximately about 50 miles from the ground to space here on Earth. Say us humans are on average are 6 feet tall and stories in buildings are usually ten feet. So doing some brainstorming an alien space ship for a 5 mile tall creature would probably be 10 miles high, and who knows how long/wide.

A mile is 5280 feet, our largest oil tanker is 1503 feet long. So it's not even close to being a mile long. So giant aliens would have to be in a gigantic space ship!

Wiki - World's longest ships

There could be tiny species or giant species attempting to visit us, but it seems like the Grey aliens are the ones who make direct contact with us, according to conspiracy anyways.



posted on Dec, 24 2011 @ 09:36 PM
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We are 6 ft tall and built a ship thats 1,503 ft long.So we built a craft thats 253 times as big as we are and that ship,the seawise giant is almost 1/3 of a mile long...

There could be 1 inch tall aliens living on an earth like planet thats 50 times bigger than earth.1 inch tall aliens would seem normal sized to eachother,only when compared to us would they seem so small and would we seem so much larger...

We only see ufo's,flying saucers and aliens that are within our size range and It Should Not Be That Way...

People the world over see flying saucers that are always between around 20ft across upwards to one or two ufos that were reported to have been 1 mile across.We should also be seeing them and seeing them just as often,15 miles across and larger and 5 inches across and smaller,theres no reason why we should'nt be,yet we dont,no one does...Why Not?

People the world over encounter alien beings that are always between around 4ft and 10ft tall,with a few cases of encounters describing alien beings who were 3ft tall up to around 12ft tall.We should also be seeing them and seeing them just as often,6 inches tall and shorter and 50ft tall and taller,theres no reason why we should'nt be, yet we dont,no one does...Why Not?..

Somethings or someones playing with our minds and our lives,orchestrating a great deception and a grand charade upon us that shows us what it thinks we want to see,or what it thinks we should be seeing...


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posted on Dec, 25 2011 @ 12:12 AM
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Originally posted by blocula
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I hear and understand what your saying,but thats still putting "an earthly stamp" upon something thats other worldly,something we really dont understand...

We exist 6ft tall,so aliens shoud exist 6ft tall and 1 ft tall and 100ft tall,theres absolutely no reason why they shouldnt...

Not just the 3 to 8ft tall aliens that are seen 90% of the time,the other 10% comprising sightings and encounters with alien beings who are around 3ft tall upwards to around 15ft tall...


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I would guess....and this is a guess based on scientific logic of how cellular evolution from a single celled organism....which by it's very definition shows it does not have a brain and simply reacts to eat and multiply....that the smallest intelligent life form in our Universal Constant would be of a size limited to a volume....because we are talking size and absolute finites on how many single cells that can exist as small as physically possible in their comparison to base Elements and Molecules....minimum volume for intelligent life....about the size of a beer can.

Maximum size.....about the size of two to three Blue whales in volume. This is so because if it were life that was larger...and THAT IS POSSIBLE....it probably would not be intelligent. A Blue Whale is intelligent....but because of it's shere size....the majority of it's time is used on searching and eating to support it's vast bulk...thus it has no time for other higher reasoning activities,

Minimum Size.....about the volume of a 12 ounce Beer can....is consistent with a compact smaller than Human cellular structure....but any smaller....not enough area for enough of the smallest possible existing cells to form a brain adequate enough to also have a body to go with it to function. That's All Folks! Split Infinity



posted on Dec, 25 2011 @ 07:46 AM
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thats funny, all the aliens ive seen are about 5' 9 and dumb as a box of rocks and they smoke alot meth and kill their children which most people around the world believe is the demon seed but still



posted on Dec, 25 2011 @ 09:50 AM
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Does a planet having more or less gravity determine the size range of its wildlife?

higher and lower oxygen levels seems to have been one of the major factors as to how and why some dinosaurs grew so massive...But...Why didnt they all grow to extreme sizes?...Should'nt they have?

I would imagine,as far as carbon based life forms are concerned,that it would be reasonable to assume the existence of intelligent bi-pedal beings the size of blue whales and even larger,especially if their earth like planet had even just a little less gravity than our earth...

Regular small sized Ants have brains that are largest amongst insects.An ant's brain may have the same processing power as a Macintosh 2 Computer...


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posted on Dec, 26 2011 @ 07:49 AM
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Unfortunately in the scientific process we have to look at the data available and try to reach a conclusion, not wish we had different data.

The notion that we should have UFO's of any size comes from the perception that all possibilities are equally probable. Exactly why is this? Based on what observation do we reach that conclusion?

As it turns out we have no data to know one way or another.

And while indeed, it does seem coincidental that reports of entities are always within human range (albeit sometimes a little smaller or a little taller) we must try to evaluate all possible explanations for the data, and we might not even be ready to do so, given that, undeniably, there is too little evidence.

To suggest that the anthropomorphic perception of ET's explains the phenomenon as the product of human's cognitive filtering (that people try to fit what they perceive within their paradigm) Is partially true, but is not enough to explain the hundreds of thousands of reports available, and more possible causes for the apparent humanoid form frequently reported need to be given consideration.

-rrr
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posted on Dec, 26 2011 @ 08:42 AM
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I see people,babies,who are 1ft tall and i see people who are 8ft tall and i see people who are every size and height in-between all the time,all equally dispersed,i dont just see people who are 5ft tall...

People have encountered alien beings many,many thousands of times and those,as can be obviously understood by reading through this humanoid contact data base link of over 14,000 alien beings that were encountered and documented > www.iraap.org... and keep in mind that at least half of all encounters remain unreported...

These alien beings sizes and heights are not at all equally dispersed,not even close.They are always,a little more or a little less,the same size and height...Why?...Are these beings cloned biological robots that originate from right here on earth?...Maybe...but then who or what is creating them and casting them into our lives?...Demons?...Probably...Whatever or whoever demons really are?
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posted on Dec, 26 2011 @ 08:46 AM
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IMO the extremely small scale of most UFO crafts people claim to have imaged suggests they are unmanned, (unaliened if you wish), and are but probes, unless these aliens are very tiny creatures. Imagine the space for resources requirements necessary for interstellar travel, these tiny things balk logic.



posted on Dec, 26 2011 @ 03:48 PM
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reply to post by Illustronic
 
Yes!...Exactly!...And thanx for being able to perceive of these flying discs in that kind of light...

I have heard and read that we will not meet the beings of a super advanced civilization themselves,but we will encounter their technology,their machines,their robots,androids and remote controlled probes and drones and some of them may be coming here from outer space,some of them from another dimension...

But would mile tall aliens build and send out probes that are only 20ft across?...Maybe they are...

Would 6 inch tall aliens send out probes that are 2,000ft across?...Maybe they are...

Or something or someones are allowing us to see what they want us to see when we encounter the ufos and flying saucers,something or someones who have designed what we see to be wired into our five senses in a way so we see what they want us to see,but they are not what we think we are looking at and they are not what we think we are encountering...

They might not be coming from outer space at all,they might not be arriving here from some other dimension either,they may originate from right here on earth,they might be the true dominant species of this planet,who are so far advanced beyond us,they exist mostly beyond our five senses and beyond our comprehension,making themselves known to us only when they want to...


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posted on Dec, 27 2011 @ 10:13 AM
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Another interesting take on perceptions of alien crafts also. We see what we 'are programed' to see. I take notice of how alien crafts are depicted through the years from the 40's to today, and how they resemble the contemporary descriptions of the particular time frame, as if its what we expect to see, influenced from other accounts. Of course there are deviations but the bulk of descriptions, drawings from memory of what was seen, have a sort of look that's evolve through the decades kind of the same way automobile designs have evolved over the decades. Now triangular shaped crafts seem to be spotted more and more, the latest in alien spacecraft design, I'm not sure were described in the 40's and 50's.

But today we have accounts that span the whole gamut of past and contemporary designs and estimated sizes. Interesting point about an intelligence, or evolution so to speak beyond our perception like we are beyond the perception of something like bacteria, or tiny parasitic creatures living in us. Lets also speculate they let us see certain signs of what we consider alien to us as experiments to study how we deal with the situations, possibly leading up to the grand experiment they may be planning for. Now I'm wondering into speculative grounds I rarely say out loud, the kind of ground that if someone else have said, I'd have to struggle to not ridicule.

In all though I am open minded enough to account for extreme time periods that life evolves through. Realizing our sun is about 4.6 billion years old and we know of other stars a billion years older, and I can at least put into perspective extreme imaginable results of a life form with a billion years head start. After all, a billion years ago on earth the top of the food chain, or most advanced life form was not unlike a common earthworm.



posted on Dec, 27 2011 @ 11:09 AM
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Once again...yes!...exactly!...Just like the Mystery Airships wave of the 1890's in the united states,where there were many,many sightings of and encounters with the pilots of weird flying vehicles,that preceeded and resembled the zeppelin dirigibles > en.wikipedia.org... and > www.unmuseum.org...


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posted on Dec, 27 2011 @ 12:07 PM
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blocula --- A highly advanced race, could build an android big or small, so as to put a living beings soul, or brain wave function into a highly computerized android.

Carbon based life needs a certain height to carry out all of the biological function's, neccesary for survival of its own species.

Most advanced humanoid races, need to maintain a certain height and stature, so as to support a high cranium capacity.

A humanoid stature that is small in height [3 foot,] would probably come from a world that has densely packed jungles; where a small humanoid can get around quicker than a tall [6 foot] humanoid.

On the other hand, height of a humanoid will be traced to evolution, on a planet that has predator's that prey on humanoids. In the early stages of a humanoid race, height will be determined by the survivior rate over predator's that prey on them. In the latter stages of of human evolution, crainium capacitys will dictate height and stature. Selective breeding programs --- are another option.

Thanks,

Erno86



posted on Dec, 27 2011 @ 06:59 PM
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Originally posted by blocula
reply to post by SplitInfinity
 
Does a planet having more or less gravity determine the size range of its wildlife?

higher and lower oxygen levels seems to have been one of the major factors as to how and why some dinosaurs grew so massive...But...Why didnt they all grow to extreme sizes?...Should'nt they have?

I would imagine,as far as carbon based life forms are concerned,that it would be reasonable to assume the existence of intelligent bi-pedal beings the size of blue whales and even larger,especially if their earth like planet had even just a little less gravity than our earth...

Regular small sized Ants have brains that are largest amongst insects.An ant's brain may have the same processing power as a Macintosh 2 Computer...


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Bloc....the question we were taliking about was about the ratio of the effect of Gravity....as it pertains to size of INTELLIGENT SPACEGOING ALIENS. As I was saying....a rocky planet with a large mass despite size because size or area does not determine mass....a Planets elemental makeup thus density of matter as well as amount of it....determines gravitational effect.

You could have a planet that is twice the size of Earth in diameter but if it is comprised of lighter elements.....it may have a lesser gravitational effect than Earth....thus you and I would weigh less on that larger area planet.

As far as INTELLIGENT LIFE....you need a complex brain and there is just so small a cell can become....thus there is a minimum volume a brain can have to allow for even the tiniest of cells to be in sufficient quantity to allow for complex intelligent thought and sentience.

As well....there is a maximum size that an intelligent lifeform may obtain since if for example....we have a Jupiter sized rocky planet of equal cubic meter rock density of Earth. Also....the mass of this planet is as expected....a Gravitational calculated constant comparison to Earth of 1300 fold. At that kind of mass.....a Jupiter sized Earth would probably self ignite in a Nuclear Fusion Reaction and become a Star. Jupiter has 1300 times the volume of Earth but it only has 317 times the MASS of Earth.

This is why you are not going to see any 1000 ft tall Aliens walking around....and this is but one of the negative aspects of condition of a High Mass...High Gravity Planet as it has to do with development of Intelligent Life....or any life for that matter. Split Infinity



posted on Dec, 27 2011 @ 07:13 PM
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Why are we not seeing ufo's and flying saucers 1 inch big or even a little smaller?...We should be...

My initial reaction to that is because it seems unlikely.

Think for example the amount of energy an ant would need to traverse the grand canyon. Then put that into scale with travelling from one star system to another.

I think it would be fair to say (in terms of traditional method's of travel from point A - B) that aliens are more likely to be MASSIVE if they were to ever reach our planet. As this idea changes the scale of things, rather than trying to get an ant to traverse the grand canyon, something bigger would have more of a chance of reaching their destination.

I know that's only a simple way to put things. However that only accounts when wormholes are off-limits.

If there is a way to take shortcuts through space, i don't see why aliens can't be 1-inch in size.



posted on Dec, 27 2011 @ 07:21 PM
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Aliens can be microscopic in size....the issue is size of Intelligent ones. There are limits to particle size in our Universal Reality....this might be totally different in another Universal Constant....but for THIS Universe....there are limits.

You can't have a intelligent multicellular being smaller than say a QUARK can you? NO!

You can't have the same thing alien but larger than a large rocky planets gravity will allow to form? NO!

These are the constraints. Split Infinity...ps....hows it going in GB?



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