Scientists say Turin Shroud is Supernatural !!!

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posted on Dec, 22 2011 @ 11:53 AM
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Originally posted by RevelationGeneration
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Did I call anyone demonized or are you accusing me of the same thing you just did your self?

Yes you made a reference to someone serving satan,same thing.You've also done the same on many of your other threads.Is this the best reply you can give,it's a bit playground like don't you think?



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posted on Dec, 22 2011 @ 11:58 AM
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Originally posted by RevelationGeneration
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You serve Satan, do you think your little comic strip offends me in any way shape or form?

Jesus Christ is the Lord and savoir of man kind, and every knee will eventually bow to him including Lucifer.

The Jesus you Picture is not the one I serve.
edit on 22-12-2011 by RevelationGeneration because: (no reason given)


WOOOOO there skippy, let's back this train up just a tad please.

You posted info, and asked for opinions. You are getting them.

You, my dear friend, are in no position to judge anyone on this thread. Doing so, in fact, is a direct violation of the faith that you so fondly pontificate and as deadly a sin as any other.

Back off telling people that they "serve Satan" just because their opinion is different from yours, it's way out of line, and I think the mods need to do something about it.
edit on 22-12-2011 by matadoor because: Forgot a T



posted on Dec, 22 2011 @ 12:11 PM
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why bring up such a controversial archeaological topic only to throw your self righteous kindergarten christianity on anybody with an opposing view?

BAD ZEALOT! BAD!!!!



posted on Dec, 22 2011 @ 12:12 PM
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Originally posted by RevelationGeneration
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You serve Satan, do you think your little comic strip offends me in any way shape or form?


We serve fairy tales, I would certainly hope logic does not offend you.


Jesus Christ is the Lord and savoir of man kind, and every knee will eventually bow to him including Lucifer.


Unicorns are the Lords and saviors of mankind, and every knee will eventually bow to them, including the lion in the tribe of Judah durrrr.


The Jesus you Picture is not the one I serve.


huuuuur durrr duuurrry purrr

That's probably because its a comical representation of the Jesus you serve. Although there really isn't that much of a difference between a fictional comic strip and Jesus.

I certainly hope that the utter stupidity, and lack of logic of all of Christendom, isn't some kind of foreshadowing to the intelligence levels of Yahweh and Christ. The human race would be doomed.



posted on Dec, 22 2011 @ 12:13 PM
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mods called 30 minutes ago...



posted on Dec, 22 2011 @ 12:23 PM
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Originally posted by RevelationGeneration

Originally posted by buddhasystem
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To give a much simpler example -- linens can be bleached by either UV light, or by a wide variety of chemical agents. Or even combination of chemicals and light. Same applies to other colors.



No it can't you just made that up to try and discredit the shroud and failed.


a) What specifically did I make up? If you don't know chemistry and/or history, it's not my problem.
b) I discredited the silly allegations made by these scientists, and in that I didn't fail.



posted on Dec, 22 2011 @ 12:25 PM
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Yeah well good luck with that. If they are friends with the mod(s) that show up, nothing will come of it.

Trust me, been there, done that got the merit badge to prove it....



posted on Dec, 22 2011 @ 12:26 PM
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Originally posted by RevelationGeneration
You serve Satan, do you think your little comic strip offends me in any way shape or form?

Jesus Christ is the Lord and savoir of man kind, and every knee will eventually bow to him including Lucifer.

The Jesus you Picture is not the one I serve.


How dare you to reject God's Holy Sandwich!



posted on Dec, 22 2011 @ 12:28 PM
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Originally posted by buddhasystem

Originally posted by RevelationGeneration
You serve Satan, do you think your little comic strip offends me in any way shape or form?

Jesus Christ is the Lord and savoir of man kind, and every knee will eventually bow to him including Lucifer.

The Jesus you Picture is not the one I serve.


How dare you to reject God's Holy Sandwich!


Didn't one of those sell on ebay? If memory serves, it fetched a decent amount too!!



posted on Dec, 22 2011 @ 12:29 PM
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I would have thought a jesus sammich would be fishy as opposed to cheesy.



posted on Dec, 22 2011 @ 12:30 PM
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It fetched $28,000.



posted on Dec, 22 2011 @ 12:33 PM
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Am i the only one who finds it funny that they have reproduced the shroud... and somehow that proves the original is supernatural?



posted on Dec, 22 2011 @ 12:35 PM
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Originally posted by buddhasystem
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It fetched $28,000.


I love toasted cheese's, man for $28K I'm heading to the kitchen!!!



posted on Dec, 22 2011 @ 01:44 PM
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Book religions have always been wonderful vehicles for dividing and ruling the people through arrogant, self-righteous, inter-religious conflict. The Reptilians created the book religions for this reason only, and the key players within them do not even begin to believe the nonsense they wantonly parrot again and again to their faithful and ignorant followers.
They just want the entire population to believe it, so they will then be easy to control. This is why you find so many famous "Christian" evangelists, for example, are actually Satanists. Their "Christianity" is just a smokescreen. From reading his posts, I would have to say the same of the OP. A valiant, but failed attempt to convert all of ATS into the Cult of Christianity.

One is reminded of the words of Joseph Goebbels, Adolph Hitler’s propaganda minister: “If you tell any lie long enough, often enough, and loud enough, people will come to believe it.”



posted on Dec, 22 2011 @ 01:45 PM
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Cool, thanks. I guess I better watch out, for goodness sake.
edit on 22-12-2011 by Gorman91 because: (no reason given)



posted on Dec, 22 2011 @ 01:46 PM
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I'm gonna regret this I'm sure but, here goes.

The shroud is debated and always will be until Jesus himself comes back and says "oh that's mine, it's a picture of me whoop!"

OP, you derail nearly all your threads over the ET thing, I will once again attempt to remove this stumbling block from you. You are human and for this reason brother, I try to help you.

ET means 'not from Earth'.

ex·tra·ter·res·tri·al   [ek-struh-tuh-res-tree-uhl] Show IPA
adjective
1.
outside, or originating outside, the limits of the earth.

Unless you believe that God, God's Angels both obedient and fallen were created on or from the Earth, they are ET. I know you believe that God created the Earth so you must realise that it is not possible for your God to come from Earth.
You often say that 'all aliens are demons' because of what they are capable of doing.
Angels also must be capable of doing the things that the 'aliens' are. So maybe some 'aliens' are 'angels'
We can not dictate what form a celestial being can take. We can not assume that life exists only on this teeny planet when there are trillions of planets, just in this galaxy (Milky-way), millions of which could contain life.

Angel means 'messenger' the term was sometimes used in reference to humans with a message from God. If God can use humans or beings without solid physical form to relay messages then it is possible that being from other planets could also carry a message from God.

If the shroud is a genuine artefact and once covered Jesus' body, then yes it could be evidence of that. The image could have been created through a process we are not familiar with and so can rightly be expressed to be alien to our understanding. The process through which the image was formed was either natural, meaning that it was from natural laws whether divine/spiritual/energy/alchemy related, or un-natural by means of a technology we do not have. I admit I do not know, there is nothing written in the bible for you to have faith in this artefact either, so it is alright to admit that you don't know either.

What I will do is look at what is possible though I won't find the answer and I can accept that.

Namaste
edit on 22-12-2011 by Threegirls because: for clarity and to add that I do not have religious beliefs, I do have spiritual hopes and feelings.



posted on Dec, 22 2011 @ 02:44 PM
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I like how he was responding to each post individually and then stopped right around when the age of the Shroud came up...

The shroud was proven to be a hoax long ago I don't understand how people can still believe this thing.



posted on Dec, 22 2011 @ 02:59 PM
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So it's possible to recreate the shroud using an intense UV laser in a short time. Could it not have just been left out in the sun with some kind of stencil over it for a long time in the middle ages?

Surely the same effect can be built up using smaller amounts of UV over time?

I wouldn't put it out of the realm of possibility that sunlight could be polarised somehow in the middle ages? So as to only let UV through. Even by accident?
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posted on Dec, 22 2011 @ 03:44 PM
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Originally posted by matadoor

Originally posted by RevelationGeneration
reply to post by dalan.
 


You serve Satan, do you think your little comic strip offends me in any way shape or form?

Jesus Christ is the Lord and savoir of man kind, and every knee will eventually bow to him including Lucifer.

The Jesus you Picture is not the one I serve.
edit on 22-12-2011 by RevelationGeneration because: (no reason given)


WOOOOO there skippy, let's back this train up just a tad please.

You posted info, and asked for opinions. You are getting them.

You, my dear friend, are in no position to judge anyone on this thread. Doing so, in fact, is a direct violation of the faith that you so fondly pontificate and as deadly a sin as any other.

Back off telling people that they "serve Satan" just because their opinion is different from yours, it's way out of line, and I think the mods need to do something about it.
edit on 22-12-2011 by matadoor because: Forgot a T




weeell....Dalan's avatar does say "An apprentice of Satan"



posted on Dec, 22 2011 @ 04:08 PM
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I am going to take a stab at this...

The Shroud was the back lining of a failed stained glass _ A man, maker of windows was commissioned to make the window of a cathedral and decided to let his young son attempt it. Rather than impede his progress and interfere the man let his son complete the project. It was not good enough for the cathedral but it was decided to be kept out back the family shop. Over years of being rained on and dried out with the sun shining through the glass the image was imbedded into the fabric.

So there you have it, it was the sun and stained glass and the son of a window maker all along. Then it was forgotten and found and sold on ebay like burnt toast.





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