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What do the PTB want seriously?

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posted on Dec, 22 2011 @ 09:37 AM
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Ever since I/we/you joined ATS one question remains unanswered. After dealing with lots of information and a whole lot of disinformation the time has come to ask THE question. What do the PTB want and why? If there are CIA trackers, Government insiders, Alien hybrids, channelers, prophets and Agents of mass destruction please answer these:

1) If PTB desires a one world government, what are they going to do with it?
2) If they want an economic collapse, what for?
3) If they are controlling and enslaving us, why and what for?
4) If they did 9/11, why do so?
5) What is the hidden agenda?
6) What do they attain by keeping the UFO info under lids?


The only answer I could come up with - they are afraid of something and they are ignorant of the same.
What is your guess? Is anyone here could point to this? Besides we stick to conspiracies and truth yet forget about why they do all this. I feel 'why' is more important than how and when!




posted on Dec, 22 2011 @ 09:45 AM
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They want us all to bow down to their lord Satan just as they do, but want to be rewarded for bringing us to him.

They do all these things to force us in the proper direction.

They are afraid one day we will all find out that we are all one. Literally, everything and nothing is all but 1, spread out to collect different data from all experiences. The day we all wake up to that is the day they will have no power.



posted on Dec, 22 2011 @ 09:56 AM
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Originally posted by radkrish
Ever since I/we/you joined ATS one question remains unanswered. After dealing with lots of information and a whole lot of disinformation the time has come to ask THE question. What do the PTB want and why? If there are CIA trackers, Government insiders, Alien hybrids, channelers, prophets and Agents of mass destruction please answer these:

1) If PTB desires a one world government, what are they going to do with it?
2) If they want an economic collapse, what for?
3) If they are controlling and enslaving us, why and what for?
4) If they did 9/11, why do so?
5) What is the hidden agenda?
6) What do they attain by keeping the UFO info under lids?


The only answer I could come up with - they are afraid of something and they are ignorant of the same.
What is your guess? Is anyone here could point to this? Besides we stick to conspiracies and truth yet forget about why they do all this. I feel 'why' is more important than how and when!


Answers:

1. With a One World Government they can control the entire planet. Total control!
2. An economic collapse will ensure countries will fall into their pockets. They will be slaves by debt! More control
3. They control the human race by denying them the truth to their true origins. And it ain't the Invisible Man they called God. This control makes sure we don't get out of line. We stay ignorant of what is really happening and who or what they really are!
4. 9/11 was staged because they needed 'A New Pearl Harbour'. Basically to get an exuse for war, passing the Patriot Act Bill and controlling the population even more.
5. There are many hidden agendas. One of them is for depopulation. The mass killing of 95% of the population by means of war, man-made disasters, bio-engineered diseases and viruses, genetically modified food and flouridated poison water for their goal of a population size of 500 million.
6. They hide the fact that they have an alliance with some Aliens by getting technology for their black ops and secret space missions in return for the rights to abduct people for genetic experimentation. They also hide the fact that they are part Alien too.!!

Well that's the ball park figure. Maybe somebody out there can be a bit more detailed than me.



posted on Dec, 22 2011 @ 09:56 AM
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At the very least they want increased control of us. This can be accomplished through fear and poverty and martial law



posted on Dec, 22 2011 @ 10:14 AM
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Originally posted by Mkoll
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At the very least they want increased control of us. This can be accomplished through fear and poverty and martial law


yeah thats my thinking as well,control i think is the main thing they want,to be able to see what we do,say & think at all times.

bit by bit they are getting closer to what they want



posted on Dec, 22 2011 @ 10:19 AM
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Originally posted by rhynouk

Originally posted by Mkoll
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At the very least they want increased control of us. This can be accomplished through fear and poverty and martial law


yeah thats my thinking as well,control i think is the main thing they want,to be able to see what we do,say & think at all times.

bit by bit they are getting closer to what they want


What is the use and meaning of control? Nobody is going to be alive for more than 100 years. And this is what makes me think that this entire PTB saga has more deep meaning than what we assume.

They are unenlightened. They must be mentally retarded to actually even think of 'controlling' anything. They control nothing.



posted on Dec, 22 2011 @ 10:38 AM
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The only solution to me is the explanation in the Bible. Satan is behind the whole conspiracy, and it's preparation for Judgement day. Certainly fits, and explains the continual assault on the Bible and Christianity



posted on Dec, 22 2011 @ 10:55 AM
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The PTB age long quest can be summarized down to one common denominator.

Satan becoming GOD of this world., and his minions living the life H.G. Wells wrote about in the “Time Machine”, the Eloys and Morlocks.

We have witnessed Humans dedicating their lives to the quest of World denomination for centuries, even when those humans in the past knew they would not live to see the fruit of the sacrifice.

This action is not a natural trait for human beings, we may work hard to secure a positive future for our children and maybe even our grandchildren, but it is not normal to sacrifice ones own life for the grandchildren of your grandchildren, but this is what the PTB families do.

Why ?

It is not about the prodigy, they are being faithful to their GOD, Satan.



posted on Dec, 22 2011 @ 11:48 AM
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Originally posted by radkrish
Ever since I/we/you joined ATS one question remains unanswered. After dealing with lots of information and a whole lot of disinformation the time has come to ask THE question. What do the PTB want and why? If there are CIA trackers, Government insiders, Alien hybrids, channelers, prophets and Agents of mass destruction please answer these:

1) If PTB desires a one world government, what are they going to do with it?

What are all these people talking about?

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They want to control everything and everyone.These individuals are hardcore marxist socialists. You know the same kind that brought us USSR,cuba,north korea and Maoist china.

2) If they want an economic collapse, what for?
Out with the old in with the one world government.
3) If they are controlling and enslaving us, why and what for?
control,power,greed.But mostly control. We are in the way. So they need to remove the threat.
4) If they did 9/11, why do so?
9/11 was a terrorist attack by the CIA and other groups to start an infinite war against imaginary enemies called al-quaeda and other groups created by CIA. We fell for it and started 3 wars. One being infinite.The war contractors made out with a lot of money.
5) What is the hidden agenda?
There is no hidden agenda. They tell you publicly(in books,interviews,seminars,etc) you just don't listen to them. They are not hiding what they are doing too much.
6) What do they attain by keeping the UFO info under lids?

UFOs don't exist. Your not one of that crazies that believes in aliens are you? lol I believe people are greedy and can be corrupted by power. Do you?

What makes you think they with trillions of dollars worth of wealth are not corrupt and addicted to unchecked power? What happens when they can just do/get anything they wanted without any kind of real consequences and be a humble sane person? What if they could just call one of their friends and get out of any wrong doing they may have done? Whats the point when you can just be a gangster or a con and get what you want way anyway?



The only answer I could come up with - they are afraid of something and they are ignorant of the same.
What is your guess? Is anyone here could point to this? Besides we stick to conspiracies and truth yet forget about why they do all this. I feel 'why' is more important than how and when!



posted on Dec, 22 2011 @ 11:57 AM
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1) If PTB desires a one world government, what are they going to do with it? - Control over what is left

2) If they want an economic collapse, what for? - To reduce the population for easier control

3) If they are controlling and enslaving us, why and what for? - To reduce our thinking turning us into robots - Matrix

4) If they did 9/11, why do so? - To get us to want more protection from ourselves and so they could get rich off the war

5) What is the hidden agenda? - It's not hidden - they want power and control of everything

6) What do they attain by keeping the UFO info under lids? - The technology to be used for the good of mankind and not for their dreams of controlling the whole world... and beyond...

It has nothing to do with religion, they just use faith and politics to crate laws that work in their favor and to keep the sheeple at bay to prevent a revolution. Religion is so hypocritical anyways, I don't see how people can believe in that but think we are alone in this universe. Just ask people why they believe and 9 out of 10 will say that is how they were raised. People have lost the ability to think for themselves.

That's the nutshell version...
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posted on Dec, 22 2011 @ 01:56 PM
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What are your statistics based on?

The op wanted to know what the longterm agenda is. Why would some high powered person in the 1800s give a toss about a one world government in the 21st century? They wouldn't. People are selfish, and want what they can get now, a 300 year long plan for a one world government is of no interest to a duke in 1850.

Satan has a long enough lifespan to have his puppets and monkies to work for him. One of his best tricks is to make the so-called bright people think that the Bible is false. Most of these people are happy to believe this lie as it gives them the illusion of freedom to do their own thing, little knowing that they are following a lie that will lead to certain destruction.

Cue more Christian bashing. Just to prove my point



posted on Dec, 22 2011 @ 06:12 PM
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I personally believe that if the bible is essentially true then it is but one of many viewpoints on an absolute truth, not the end all and be all



posted on Dec, 24 2011 @ 09:43 AM
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One world system? What for? Fight against aliens? The PTB are narrow-minded and their quest towards world domination is only an illusion

They are not spiritually evolved. Hence this type of world domination is bs and it doesn't really matter.


I don't understand why would they need a one world government in the first place with almost every country fighting endlessly for resources and ammunition, it will not be easy to forge a one-world government. The reason behind such process is what raises the brows. At one point of time in their life, the PTB members would have thought something along the lines of peace, love and spirituality. So I eliminate the idea of them being evil. I am surprised if they are really.



posted on Dec, 24 2011 @ 10:23 AM
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If they are controlling and enslaving us, why and what for?


I think they are waiting for the Annunaki Gods to return, and have a present of much gold for them. I think they wish to be made as a Pharaoh, to rule over Earth, using the powers of the Annunaki. I also think they are really scared, they are not sure what the Annunaki are like, and they also may think, or even know that some of the older ones are dead now. This is just speculation now, but certain people have testified before Congress about this, I think.

Some research links:

Who Were The Annunaki?

Sumerian Questions and Answers

Nibiru - The 12th Planet

Anunnaki & Nibiru - The Return



posted on Dec, 24 2011 @ 11:20 AM
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You bible folks are just as blind as the rest of them, bowing to your invisible and non-existent master. Religion is just another tool of control. And don't go saying "that it's organized religion that's meant to control, not the book itself". I'd bet dollars to donuts everyone of you that spouts some lunatic "It's Satan behind it all, certainly man could not be so evil without the influence of some redhorned mythological figure" is just as pacified as the others. God is either dead, non-existent, or a very sick mind indeed. Ever hear of the ichneumonidae wasp? It's a type of wasp that lays its eggs inside a live caterpillar. Then, the wasp injects a chemical into the brain of the caterpillar, pacifying it, and leaves it as the surrogate "mother". Now, what sort of loving god would create that sort of thing? Or what sort of loving god would create a being of evil to torment it's creations? I find the concept of an evil god more likely than that of a benevolent one, given the current circumstances of the universe.
What do the powers that be want? They want what is best in life. The best food, the best housing, the best of what they can take from the normal folks without the masses rising up in rebellion. People who say, "Nope, lalalalala, it's the Debil, the Debil who's the real evil" are sheep. Religion is the opiate of the masses, and people delude themselves with it.



posted on Dec, 25 2011 @ 05:19 AM
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You need to wake up and smell the coffee mate. Not evil u say? The constant genocidal murder and bombing of millions of innocent men, women and children around the world all to create their New World Order (One World Government)

And they use the North Atlantic Terrorist Organization (NATO) to do it. Do u not know that the US, UK and EU are run by the Rothschild Zionists of Israel? Do u not know that the Rothschilds have created all the wars for the last 300 to 400 years and supported all sides financially to get to this stage of their soon to be created one government. The next war will be World War 3 and it's fast approaching.

You need to get your head out of your ask and look all around you. Something Dark is coming and it's not the Invisible man in the clouds!!



posted on Dec, 25 2011 @ 08:29 AM
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Originally posted by stevcolx
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You need to wake up and smell the coffee mate. Not evil u say? The constant genocidal murder and bombing of millions of innocent men, women and children around the world all to create their New World Order (One World Government)

And they use the North Atlantic Terrorist Organization (NATO) to do it. Do u not know that the US, UK and EU are run by the Rothschild Zionists of Israel? Do u not know that the Rothschilds have created all the wars for the last 300 to 400 years and supported all sides financially to get to this stage of their soon to be created one government. The next war will be World War 3 and it's fast approaching.

You need to get your head out of your ask and look all around you. Something Dark is coming and it's not the Invisible man in the clouds!!


I am not in America to feel or believe in the whole deal. But I know things are wrong and dead wrong. Most part of the conspiracies originate in America and they are not likely to reach every corner of the world though its beginning to be known.

The PTB are a group of powerful people who have family, friends and their own bloodline to protect. This isn't something of a personal welfare scheme. This NWO thing has a whole new meaning to it. If you listen to the creepy bush video, he mentions that the NWO isn't really 'law of the jungle' but laws that govern people and conduct nations talking into account every person's welfare. Now don't call me out on this because not everything they do is evil. But my point is the 'reason' to unite the world under a single governance is something more damaging to an individual than the PTB themselves.

Often we talk about reasons such as more control, monitoring, taking away freedom so and so. But I believe that the reasons are out of this world. It has to be something monumental.


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posted on Dec, 25 2011 @ 08:49 AM
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Originally posted by radkrish

Originally posted by rhynouk

Originally posted by Mkoll
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What is the use and meaning of control? Nobody is going to be alive for more than 100 years. And this is what makes me think that this entire PTB saga has more deep meaning than what we assume.

They are unenlightened. They must be mentally retarded to actually even think of 'controlling' anything. They control nothing.


They control nothing?

You must be devoid of your senses. They control all media your schooling shape the system which twists the most corrupt ones into power. They define the laws punishment and prison. They can end your life your family's.
They rape nations steal resources.

And yet they control nothing?

No my friend it is actually we who have very little control of ourselves as we work for them in a system designed by them.



posted on Dec, 25 2011 @ 09:27 AM
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I've more or less come to the conclusion that it's all smoke and mirrors, bread and circuses.

I think there is a hierarchy in the world that none of us really understands, we're just the pawns. I think the top levels have access to information, going back millennia that is hidden from us. We just get scraps and fragments like tarot cards or numerology.

I think the alien thing is just a bluff - deflection. If a large percentage of the population think the aliens are behind 'it' all then they won't investigate the real culprits. Not to say that aliens don't exist somewhere, I just think that the PTB allow us to think that aliens are responsible for a lot of the nasty stuff they do themselves. Also, having aliens in the picture can 'explain' the actions of the PTB. Some people might make excuses for them thinking that they have to acquiesce to the whims and agendas of 'visitors'. Maybe in order to save us from an overt hostile takeover.

I think there might be some dissension in the ranks at the top, or maybe it is all just a game. To treat the world like a giant chess game and see who can win the most land, power, enslaved population. Maybe the game at the moment is to see who can have the tightest control over their population. Wonder what the prizes are?

There are protests going on all over the world and protestors in America appear to be treated at least as badly as anyone in China, Russia or the Middle East. How can that be when we've been told for generations that all the nasty, suppressive governments were in Eastern Europe or the Far East or Africa?

As for the population control, I'm not sure how that is going to be worked out. There is a theory, the name of which escapes me, that the more people there are the faster humanity progresses - in the realm of ideas and inventiveness. I wonder if someone, somewhere is allowing the population to expand in order to aid this progress.

It might not look like it with so many people being killed with disease and during wars and invasions, but a couple of million here or a few thousand there doesn't make that much of a dent in a world population of 7 billion, and rising. I wonder how many more billions will be allowed to populate the planet before any really serious reduction occurs.

I do wonder if the PTB have gone a little too far over the last decade. Going back to the bread and circuses, when we were all comfortable, had enough to eat and plenty of entertainment we were pretty docile. Now that is being withdrawn we're getting bolshie. Did someone mis-calculate or is one side of the PTB trying to sabotage another in a way that isn't quite clear yet?

Anyway, there's my half-baked theory for the day



posted on Dec, 26 2011 @ 09:47 AM
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Originally posted by sinthia
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What are your statistics based on?

The op wanted to know what the longterm agenda is. Why would some high powered person in the 1800s give a toss about a one world government in the 21st century? They wouldn't. People are selfish, and want what they can get now, a 300 year long plan for a one world government is of no interest to a duke in 1850.

Satan has a long enough lifespan to have his puppets and monkies to work for him. One of his best tricks is to make the so-called bright people think that the Bible is false. Most of these people are happy to believe this lie as it gives them the illusion of freedom to do their own thing, little knowing that they are following a lie that will lead to certain destruction.

Cue more Christian bashing. Just to prove my point


Satan has a long enough lifespan to have his puppets and monkies to work for him. One of his best tricks is to make the so-called bright people think that the Bible is false. Most of these people are happy to believe this lie as it gives them the illusion of freedom to do their own thing, little knowing that they are following a lie that will lead to certain destruction.

What are YOUR statistics based on?

Sounds more like an opinion to me...

Back to your response...

Says who? Try reading The Silent Weapon (William Cooper). 300 years isn't nothing. Use your head. It's not like you can take over the world in 100 yrs...
much less 300...

Satan is just a term used to label bad things that happen. What proof do you have of this Satan? Oh and BTW Satan and Lucifer are not the same according to the bible you live by... and who said anything about religion in the first place? Religion has nothing to do with this crap because it's only a control mechanism. Try doing some research on where these religions came from before you jump on me about it. I know my history...

Your so-called religion has caused nothing but war, torment, anger and death... Pretty much what your Satan represents...
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