Was Kim Jong IL really a dictator?, page 4
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reply posted on 22-12-2011 @ 03:41 PM by GogoVicMorrow
reply to post by IshmaelKipling



Watch some of the documentary videos where people have snuck cameras in and documented life in NK. It is really, legitimately bad there, he was at terrible leader and has starved and imprisoned his civilians. Not a good place to be.


reply posted on 22-12-2011 @ 03:50 PM by Xcalibur254
reply to post by muzzleflash



How can you get an accurate representation of the country when the entire time you are taken to state sanctioned areas and are escorted by a tour guide, a security guard, and a member of the secret police. You are not free to roam around the country, and in fact you can't even leave the hotel without your handlers. The places you go to are carefully selected and the people that work at those places have been trained to specifically in dealing with tourists. Most of the time you won't even see another North Korean outside of these stops.


reply posted on 22-12-2011 @ 04:19 PM by redoubt
reply to post by IshmaelKipling



If I said... ' Oh, come da freak on!' would you feel insulted or offended?

I certainly would not mean it that way.

But just how in the heck does one dodge reality so utterly and completely to even suspect that Kim was not immediately welcomed into hell... wherever or whatever it may be?

Mods - I can't write this any nicer. If you feel the need to pull this, please let me know so I can reword it to say what I really think.

Thanks


reply posted on 22-12-2011 @ 04:30 PM by earthdude
reply to post by redoubt



If you ever want to dodge reality, listening to what the MSM is reporting is a good way to do it. Sure, Kim Jong may have been evil, but check your sources before you are positive.


reply posted on 22-12-2011 @ 04:41 PM by GogoVicMorrow
reply to post by earthdude



This is one of those rare instances when the rumors and MSM coverage is pretty on the money. Listen to interviews with people that have escaped. It's pretty horrible. I watched a video of two people that had escaped and the torture they went through in the work camps (where most people spend their lives or just die well before their time). They showed the scars, they were held over heat and burned, all kinds of crazy stuff. You can look at them and they have that empty look of someone that has been through a horrible ordeal.


reply posted on 22-12-2011 @ 04:53 PM by Dorian9
reply to post by IshmaelKipling



You are a complete knucklehead for even asking this. Do your research before asking a question that has an obvious answer. You are right to not trust the media...but come on, the guy killed thousands+ that did not tow the line.


reply posted on 22-12-2011 @ 05:51 PM by Dorian9
reply to post by rigel4



Good point...you can't. Freakin morons that know nothing yet espouse comments questioning dictatorship.
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