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Putting an END to the 'Ron Paul is racist' claims right here and now. Who will challenge me?

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posted on Dec, 23 2011 @ 01:36 AM
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I agree. But you know that theory was contrived by binky-boy. Of course it doesn't make any sense.
It's damn near impossible to back off from a rant fest, especially if you've painted yourself into a corner.

So, binky-boy will just keep creating his own reality regarding Ron Paul. The more he stamps his widdle feets, the sillier he looks.




posted on Dec, 23 2011 @ 01:37 AM
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Mas,

www.dailykos.com...

He is quoted as saying that the only reason why the LA Riots ended is because blacks got their welfare cheques!



posted on Dec, 23 2011 @ 01:37 AM
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I'm starting to think you have trouble reading:

Here it is, for the FOURTH time.


Originally posted by eLPresidente

So you've changed the subject YET AGAIN without even attempting to rebut my claims because you know they are true.

You can say how smart you are all day long, I frankly don't care because I disagree. But the important part to note here is that your silence on this topic is your acquiescence. You've forfeited your argument because you had absolutely nothing to say for the second time (but don't worry, your third chance is coming up right now).


Your clear past on ATS shows your intent to paint Ron Paul as one that was chosen and you've always felt you were THE MESSENGER sent to ATS to save us from Ron Paul. Then you buy into the MSM smear campaign giving them credibility and ADMITTING 'THEY' want to destroy him. So what is it? is Ron Paul the controlled opposition or is he not? Can you even answer that much?

How about sticking with one theory? unless...your goal is just to troll everything Ron Paul, which actually makes sense because your other arguments and past actions presents you as a clear hypocrite.

You may deter the topic at hand for the THIRD time but I'm onto you, I've always been and I always will be.



posted on Dec, 23 2011 @ 01:44 AM
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I actually endorsed the man for the GOP Nod for POTUS in 08 and when I learned of these way back in 08 I withdrew my support of him. I had just forgotten about them until this came to light since the file I have was locked out to me and when something is brought up it clicked. No physical file but a memory.

I even vehemently defended McCain's eligibility to run in 08 as there was a group that was saying since he wasn't born on the US Mainland (there were 48 states when he was born) he wasn't eligible but born in The Panama Canal Zone which at the time was a US territory so don't dare sit there and tell me I'm biased.
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posted on Dec, 23 2011 @ 01:45 AM
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Top of page 17 are some examples of the newsletters in question. I'm fairly certain Paul answered questions regarding them back in 2008, probably numerous times.

The general consensus is that it was a ghostwriter who's yet to be named who wrote them, and I think his campaign should have probably been much better prepared to address this, this time around. Everyone knew they were going to be brought up again at a pivotal moment in his campaign. I'm disappointed that they weren't prepared. But also confident that he's not racist, did not write them himself, and that's what matters the most to me.



posted on Dec, 23 2011 @ 01:46 AM
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Originally posted by eLPresidente
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Cool, then the MSM has accomplished their goal.

Thanks for looking at all of the facts and coming to your own conclusion without making a fuss.



Wasn't the MSM.

It is his connection to the Oath Keepers - a watered down branch of the Klan masquerading as Constitutionalists.... IMO and in many others. And since they are fairly well connected (wink wink) sure helps explains the huge swell of support for Ron Paul on this website. I am a little relieved Ron Paul does not have a ghost of a chance in this or any race.


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posted on Dec, 23 2011 @ 01:47 AM
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Still when I look at the article he wrote.
"The Coming Race Wars!"
www.tnr.com...
Thats the article this came from.


Boy, it sure burns me to have a national holiday for that pro-communist philanderer, Martin Luther King. I voted against this outrage time and time again as a Congressmen. What an infamy that Ronald Regan approved it! We can thank him for our annual Hate Whitey Day.

And this is more of the article.


Black leaders are calling for a "fundamental" change: uprooting the entire "White Establishment."They want to replace "Eurocentrism" with "Afrocentrism," and make white schoolchildren "more humble." Although I am not clear in what that means, I do know what that, as Ludwig von Mises said, "the idea of liberty is Western."If they intend to replace Western culture with third-worldism, they are looking for a battle.

The racial hatred being created will surpass anything we've seen so far. If there is any issue the Republicans have in their favor for the next presidential election, it is the question of race. It was all over for Michael Dukakis when Jessie Jackson gave his awful prime-time speech at the last Democratic convention, and the cameras focused on masses of teary-eyed,left-wing blacks.

I can't help but think of Glenn Beck and his Recent rant about Occupy Wall Street.
www.mediaite.com...


“Capitalists, if you think that you can play footsie with these people, you are wrong. They will come for you and drag you into the streets and kill you. They will do it. They’re not messing around. Those in the media – and I am included in this – they will drag us out into the streets and kill us. If you’re wealthy, they will kill you for what you have. You cannot tolerate this kind of stuff. You certainly do not encourage it.”

He says they will come for you and kill you. Then you ask your self is this guy serious? Well both of these seem to came from the same play book of AGITPROP.Origin of AGITPROP Russian, ultimately from agitatsiya agitation + propaganda First Known Use: 1935. Both are agitating with propaganda to win a certain group of people and offend a second group of people. And it almost seems fitting that Glenn Beck and Ron Paul would use Russian propaganda tricks considering they both love Ayn Rand.

Ron Paul likes her.


So does Glenn Beck.


Other things that stand out to me is the defense that the NAACP liked him. Strom Thurmond was congratulated by the NAACP and the ACLU for his efforts. And if you don't know who Strom Thurmond. He was believed to be in the KKK and he fillibustered the Civil Rights Act of 1957.


One 1948 speech, met with cheers by supporters, included the following: listen




He conducted the longest filibuster ever by a lone senator, in opposition to the Civil Rights Act of 1957, at 24 hours and 18 minutes in length, nonstop. In the 1960s, he continued to fight against civil rights legislation. He always insisted he had never been a racist, but was merely opposed to excessive federal authority. However, he infamously said that "all the laws of Washington and all the bayonets of the Army cannot force the Negro into our homes, into our schools, our churches and our places of recreation and amusement", while attributing the movement for integration to Communism. Starting in the 1970s, he moderated his position on race, but continued to defend his early segregationist campaigns on the basis of states' rights in the context of Southern society at the time, never fully renouncing his earlier viewpoints.


en.wikipedia.org...

Why does the fillibuster thing sound so familiar? Maybe because it something Rand Paul wanted to do about everyting he didn't like about government. The racist groups seem to have the same ideas on everything.
Rand Paul Heroic Seven Hour Filibuster over Patriot Act.
www.economicpolicyjournal.com...
Rand Paul Vows To Filibuster Everything Until Senate Debates Debt Ceiling.
thinkprogress.org...
That Ron Paul's kid if you didn't know.
Where Rand Paul stands on the Civil Rights Act.

Sounds like he saying he believes everybody should have the right to be racist to me. And im sure the apples not far from the tree. Ron Paul gives a lot of answers in the same twisted, avoid giving a straight answer, make it sound like freedom, when they do something against someone else.



posted on Dec, 23 2011 @ 01:50 AM
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He did answer them in private in 08 because he was forced to during the vetting process in Q1 and Q2 08 hence why his candidacy got torpedoed then like it will be now. It was determined that anyone with an inkling of racism or racist views will never be POTUS as that will do nothing positive nor constructive for the nation or her people and someone with something like that on their record is someone we as a nation simply cannot and will not trust.

As I've said, it's too late in the game for him to distance himself today as he should've been condemning the publication and issuing statements right when the newsletter was fresh and hot off the presses.
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posted on Dec, 23 2011 @ 01:53 AM
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Originally posted by TheImmaculateD1
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He did answer them in private in 08 hence why his candidacy got torpedoed then like it will be now. It was determined that anyone with an inkling of racism or racist views will never be POTUS as that will do nothing positive nor constructive for the nation or her people!
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Yet Obama is in the whitehouse, so there goes that theory out the window! It's ok though because he's black so he can't be racist.... Sorry I didn't mean to talk bad about YOUR Messiah....



posted on Dec, 23 2011 @ 01:59 AM
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Ron Paul said:

"I didn't write them, I disavow them, and I take moral responsibility for them"

So all of these 'quotes' you posted, mean nothing. They were written by somebody else.

Glen Beck has been trash talking Ron Paul for almost this entire election season, why are you trying to make it look like they're bff's?

Rand Paul/Ron Paul and their stance on the civil rights act, in accordance to the portion of the act that usurps a business owners' rights, has nothing to do with Ron Paul being a racist or not being a racist, it has everything to do what is Constitutional and what is not.



posted on Dec, 23 2011 @ 02:01 AM
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Ok. When you're done constantly editing your response, I may respond back. Slow down, take a deep breath... But no you're wrong, he did respond when asked about this to the very same network in 2008. He said the same thing then as he has now.



posted on Dec, 23 2011 @ 02:02 AM
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I'm pretty sure this is my all time favorite ATS thread! Great job, this really sparked my interest. For the past 3 hours I have been learning up on Ron Paul. I'm all im with him if I could give you all my flags and stars I would. Thank you!!!


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posted on Dec, 23 2011 @ 02:06 AM
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And you deliberately ignore the entire premise of my claims for the fourth time.



To put it simply:

1) Have you or have you not stated in the past that Ron Paul is controlled opposition (a puppet if you will) chosen by the global elites to be president?

2) Do you or do you not believe CNN serves the will of these so called global elites? (careful how you answer this one, take into consideration who owns CNN and how it goes up the brackets).

If you answer these two questions with YES', then you're more or less admitting that the so called global elites are knowingly crashing their own party. Why are you not exposing this? why are you going along with the plans of these so called global elites now when you've been so against their puppet Ron Paul?

Think about it.


OR you can choose to ignore it again, for the FIFTH time.



posted on Dec, 23 2011 @ 02:09 AM
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He was subjected to a rigorous of a regiment as McCain and Paul was subjected to so don't think for one second Obama got any preferential treatment there as I simply would not allow it.

It is also my stance is why each State and Territory had a vote in the 08 Primaries because I didn't think it was fair that only 6 states (mine included) only had a primary that left the other 44 out in the cold as why should in the corporate world you know how there are like 4 - 5 interviews before they get the gig be more stringent then POTUS.



posted on Dec, 23 2011 @ 02:11 AM
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Wrong again, he answered this issue back in 08 on CNN with Wolf Blitzer, how can it be considered private when they aired it on television for CNN's millions of viewers?



Also, his campaign wasn't 'torpedo'd' by this racism issue. He lost because he didn't have name recognition. This has widely accepted by..well...everybody.

You really amaze me, the way you craft these lies as if they were fact and you are so confident in them...wow...



posted on Dec, 23 2011 @ 02:13 AM
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Boy, it sure burns me to have a national holiday for that pro-communist philanderer, Martin Luther King. I voted against this outrage time and time again as a Congressmen. What an infamy that Ronald Regan approved it! We can thank him for our annual Hate Whitey Day.


So what Congressman did he have ghost writing for him?



posted on Dec, 23 2011 @ 02:13 AM
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The fact remains and continues to remain is that if these newsletters never existed then this would be as much of a non issue like The Birther crud is and the reason for this thread wouldn't've even been needed.the fact they do and all everyone wants to do is simply brush these off and to act like they don't exist is wrong.



posted on Dec, 23 2011 @ 02:19 AM
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1. They all are controlled by The SCUM.
2. Seeing how it's a property of Turner Entertainment yes, it is controlled, like how News Corps' Fox News and Comcast/NBCi/Universal's MSNBC is.

Hence why I'm advocating the new idea of get rid of them all to start anew and that does not mean replace a D with an R or an R with a D or any combo thereof. but to do a full cleansing of The Congress to get rid of the "Left-v-Right" corrupt 2 party oligarchial paradigm. They are all "Bought and Paid" and are corrupt to the core. Paul is just the latest lamb to the slaughter.

If Dr. King was alive today he'd spit at Paul and slam him for doing this as these letters stand against everything he stood for.
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posted on Dec, 23 2011 @ 02:20 AM
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Why would you ask me that question? I don't know.

What I do know is that Ron Paul has said he didn't write the newsletters, he disavowed them and took moral responsibility for the ghostwriter's actions.

A man is only as good as his word and judging by the over 3 decades of Ron Paul's actions, I trust his word.

If you don't, that is your judgement to make based on his actions and speeches.



posted on Dec, 23 2011 @ 02:26 AM
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Originally posted by TheImmaculateD1
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1. They all are controlled by The SCUM.
2. Seeing how it's a property of Turner Entertainment yes, it is controlled, like how News Corps' Fox News and Comcast/NBCi/Universal's MSNBC is.

Hence why I'm advocating the new idea of get rid of them all to start anew and that does not mean replace a D with an R or an R with a D or any combo thereof. but to do a full cleansing of The Congress to get rid of the "Left-v-Right" corrupt 2 party oligarchial paradigm. They are all "Bought and Paid" and are corrupt to the core. Paul is just the latest lamb to the slaughter.


So you have just admitted Ron Paul and CNN are puppets for the same so called 'global elites' yet you buy into CNN's interview of Ron Paul as authentic journalism, as if the elites wanted to contradict their own actions. At the beginning of this thread and the other CNN interview thread, you openly backed all of CNN's intents in smearing Ron Paul but you NEVER ONCE bothered to call CNN out for being part of the controlled opposition.

You NEVER ONCE questioned it, you ate it all up and sold it as if it was your own creation. Now in your most recent post, its all about being AGAINST CNN and Ron Paul, after I made you admit it.

How many times can you change your tune?

You remind me of the Ron Paul AD on Newt Gingrich: Serial Hypocrisy:


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