Originally posted by DocHalladay
reply to post by EyesWideShut
If you read my post you will see that I very purposely put basic in there.
There isn't a hint of any sort of basic training in the game at all, that's the reason 10 year old kids prestige in 72 hours and melee you to death as
soon as you respawn. Do you really think little johnny would be combat effective if you put him in theatre? Trust me, when a game puts in SALUTE
reports , 5 Paragraph orders and NJP's , THEN I'll say there is basic training in it...lol COD only seems like it has basic training to people that
have never served. It's not your fault, you simply don't know any better. I'm sure if you watched a movie and the protagonist was in the same
profession as you, you'd be able to pick apart everything about it, because you'd have intimate knowledge of said profession... I on the other hand
would be ignorant of that profession and if it looked like what I think it should in my head, I could say it was accurate....but I'd be wrong.
Do you honestly think I believe you can send people right off of Call of Duty to the front lines?
No, but to even insinuate that a game has any sort of "BASIC" military training is ignorant in my opinion. Based strictly off of what you have learned
while playing COD, do you believe you could operate in any capacity in the military? If your answer is anything but "No" there is no need to further
this discussion.
If you ever played the game, you would know that they take you through all kinds of different missions and explain to you how to react in many
different situations. This is what you would call military maneuvers.
Yes, I've played the game. No, that is not hardly what you'd call military maneuvers. If you're in doubt about this, ask a vet.
Whether it be creeping through a village and going through houses or covertly sneaking through the enemy camps, it is covered in Call of
Duty.
Too bad it doesn't cover how to treat a sucking chest wound or tension pneumothorax.... because that's what happens in reality when you go sneaking
through enemy camps.
Of course shooting a Barrett .50 in real life and on a video game will be different, but it shows you how to handle it as well as practice aiming
down sites. All that would fall under basic.
Well for starters pressing a button on a controller isn't shooting... and I don't get how COD shows you how to "Handle" a SASR. It's 30 lbs of rifle
producing upwards of 12k Ft/Lbs of muzzle energy. The first time you shoot it the overpressure alone would shock the hell out of you, you'd be
flinching too bad to get any hits on follow ups. Forget about windage, elevation & parallax huh?
Oh yeah, there are reasons why the military has simulators. Would you care to tell me the difference between those and COD.
Absolutely! When I was in the Corps , we trained on the ISMT (Pronounced IZ Mit) Indoor Simulated Marksmanship Trainer. It's sort of like an indoor
range, there is a scenario thats projected infront of you on a movie screen and you are manipulating a weapon that mimics how your weapon actually
works, it's pneumatic so it even recoils and can be programmed with different types of malfunctions. The scenario can be changed on the fly by the
instructor thats running the scenario. In one scenario you enter a room and there's 1 bad guy and a hostage, next scenario you enter the same room and
there's 3 badguys , or the hostage is the bad guy. If feels realistic and even though you know it's a simulation, it'll raise your heart rate. In a
nutshell it's nothing like COD. Google it for more info.
Keep in mind that the game developer went out and brought in ex-Army to help them in the design process. That was in Modern Warfare 2 & 3 as well as
Black Ops
I fully understand that, there is a whole industry devoted to this. They're called "Military Technical Advisors" and the particular "Ex Army" that
you're speaking about is actually Sgt Major Dever of the United States Marine Corps. He heads a company called "1 Force Inc" and they handled the tech
stuff on MW4. His job is to make people like you feel as though they're getting a technically realistic experience , and judging by your posts , he's
succeded. Warriors Inc, and Sabre Ops are also outstanding companies that do very good work.
edit on 23-12-2011 by EyesWideShut because:
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