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Originally posted by TheImmaculateD1
Tesla Motors recently got a $450 Million loan from the US Dept of Energy yet you are saying nothing about that!
Hypocrite!
An All-Electric Sedan, Awaiting Federal Aid
www.nytimes.com...
Originally posted by TheImmaculateD1
Why are you only trashing GM?
Originally posted by TheImmaculateD1
That's right, because the Volt and Spark are 100% American made!
Originally posted by TheImmaculateD1
Because they are allowing America to have a success story and since Obama is a big supported of the growth of American industry is the SOLE AND EXCLUSIVE REASON why you are against it!
Originally posted by TheImmaculateD1
You are Anti American as you'd rather see Japan or China make major strides on this then your own damn country and get the hell out of this nation and move there is you think it's SOOO BAD HERE! Good riddance, good bye and don't let the door hit you on the way out!
Originally posted by TheImmaculateD1
Here's a link to get you started :
United States Dept Of State Renunciation of U.S. Citizenship
travel.state.gov...
GOOD BYE, YOUR TRUE COLOURS HAVE NOW COME OUT!
All to prevent the Black Man in The White House form having a success because when he has a success America has a success and you better start realizing this!
Originally posted by TheImmaculateD1
reply to post by macman
The Triangle factory deal regulation ALLOWED MORE THEN 7,000 TO FLEE THE WTC ON 9/11, no regulations and that toll would've been at 10,000+!
Is this what you want?
Originally posted by TheImmaculateD1
reply to post by macman
Another more recent one :
Cancer-causing hexavalent chromium was disposed of in Jersey City by Honeywell International, Inc. and PPG Industries for decades.
www.jerseycitylawsuit.com...
Each red dot indicates the presence of abnormally high levels of chromium :
www.jerseycitylawsuit.com...
Were the people of Jersey City supposed to just accept this? Were we not to say anything and keep our traps shut because it might scare off future corporate prospects? 700,000 tons of dirt had to be removed at PPG and Honeywell's expense and cost both a whopping $400 Million in judgements because they refused to do a thing about it!
PPG Settles Federal Suit, Agrees to Strengthen Garfield Avenue Chromium Cleanup Plan
www.jerseycityindependent.com...
The City of Jersey City did not pay out one cent to clean it up!edit on 28-12-2011 by TheImmaculateD1 because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by TheImmaculateD1
reply to post by macman
Tesla was co funded out the gate by Govt loans and yet no one is trashing them.
43 started and approved TARP which allowed for a loan guarantee to GM!
Originally posted by TheImmaculateD1
Everyone and their mother wants to continue the policies of the last 30 years that got us into this mess today but are forgetting about the 50 year gap before that whereas national prosperity was at it's peak, a period where the worker had strength, the nation had strength, unions had strength, even the corporation had strength.
We are being slowly indoctrinated to accept the cheapest made goods from China and fail to realize that we are paying for quantity and not quality whereas the quality of foreign made goods has suffered greatly.
Your job exists due to safety regulations so continue to want less and no regulations and your company will be forced to close because it'd be against the law for it to exist! See how you are shooting yourself in the foot here?
New Jersey regulation needs to be stringent. I'm sure you've heard of by now the planned Spectra Energy Pipeline proposal right? Deregulation would allow them to run a pipeline adjacent to your house and there'd be nothing you can say or do about it...
...deregulation would allow them to put a chemical dumping ground next to the park that your kids play in! Do you really want to go there?
Originally posted by TheImmaculateD1
If that was happening in your home city you would have every right to complain but since according to you it's "Govt interfering with people's lives" you would be ordered to keep your trap shut as you've gotten yourself into a Catch 22 there with no way out and to weasel your way out of that now is too damn late.
Originally posted by TheImmaculateD1
Due to deregulation directly you, your family and your neighbourhood would have no rights to complain while you saw people left and right getting sick. But since it threatens the corporations and might scare off future corporate prospects you would have to remain silent.
Originally posted by TheImmaculateD1
How about I get your city council using eminent domain to capture the block across the street from you and make nuclear fission and if you dare threaten this plan you would be going against your stance of less Govt! This is what you are saying!
Originally posted by TheImmaculateD1
There was no TARP 2 as that was a continuation of the same policy the same policy that 43 singed into law October 2008! So sorry!
Originally posted by TheImmaculateD1
So when your city will stand to lose 5,000 jobs because it's cheaper to pay a Chinese worker do not dare complain, keep your trap shut as if you dare say anything you'll be labeled as Anti Business!
Originally posted by TheImmaculateD1
Get real and get lost! Hypocrite!
Originally posted by TheImmaculateD1
Like I said if you think it's soo damn bad here how about you follow those jobs overseas and get the hell out of this country and leave it to people like me who actually give a toss about America and the people here!
edit on 28-12-2011 by TheImmaculateD1 because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by TheImmaculateD1
Notice trends here that have total relevance to the topic here :
1945 - New Deal Act becomes law American prosperity begins
Originally posted by TheImmaculateD1
The first and second versions ran on the same template, same design and pretty well same exact policy the only difference is that with the financial aspect there were clamps engaged but look at the auto agreement and the clamps were disengaged that's pretty well the only difference between the 2!
Originally posted by TheImmaculateD1
This is not a bailout but a loan made with the US Federal Government,
Originally posted by TheImmaculateD1
if GM would've defaulted or not been able to keep up with its end of the agreement that they fully understood from the getgo that the Govt would take the company over and sell off it's pieces to the highest bidder as that's how the taxpayer would've been paid back. Contingencies and fallbacks were put in place covering every possible outcome.
Originally posted by TheImmaculateD1
The taxpayer was in no real danger or threat contrary to what some external sources would have us all believe.
Originally posted by TheImmaculateD1
Also, it served as the model that will replace the Federal Reserve as that's concluding it's private control next year as we needed something fast that can be used to apply to that transfer. That served as a template and a model for an even larger item.
Originally posted by TheImmaculateD1
See why it was needed and done that way. The Federal Reserve was gonna let it fall and it wasn't until the Govt stepped in to back the people did it back down. This is the first time I'm saying most of this. Now do you get it?
Originally posted by TheImmaculateD1
How about standing with your country, the one that allows you to have all of these freedoms. You don't have to love your Govt but love your nation unconditionally!
Originally posted by jdub297
A study conducted by a Michigan "think tank"
James Hohman, of the Mackinac Center for Public Policy
Originally posted by TheImmaculateD1
Notice trends here that have total relevance to the topic here:
1945 - New Deal Act becomes law American prosperity begins
1955 - Interstate system launches, Americans are employed long range increased productivity
1963 - SCUM kills JFK asserts its muscle over us
1965 - Vietnam War starts national slide begins and the outsourcing of American based jobs companies begins
1973 - Start of the oil embargo, Big Oil flexes its muscle
1976 - Carter appointed and nation sees a temporary
1978 - Carter puts solar panel on The White House nation takes notice and vows to follow suit
1984 - Reganomics begins the beginning of what we now are going through American prosperity ends, Deregulation Round 1, Tax cuts for the rich Round 1
1987 - Market crash worst since 1929 Crash that paralyzed us for which we really haven't been able to fully recover from, American Dream declared on life support where its been ever since
1988 - Bush 41 appointed
1990's - More massive market deregulation Round 2
1991 - Tax cuts for the rich Round 2 begin, more jobs gone, Iraq 1
1992 - Clinton appointed
1996 - Market crash worse since 1987 nation threatened, bank and finance deregulation Round 3
2003 - Iraq 2, PayPal founder Elon Musk launches Tesla Motors and targets a production car by 2007
2004 - White House and The Federal Govt announce that it is getting behind the green movement nation gets behind it
2008 - Major market crash, worst since 1929 led by deregulation of everything
2010 - Financial re-regulation begins, market begins to stablize, exodus of jobs halted, Volt goes on sale as public loves it
2011 - GM, Ford, Chrysler announce it will all have production electrics in production, industry takes notice and begins to follow suit, Occupy Wall Street gets spotlight shined on companies that kill American jobs, renewed sense of New Nationalism emerges!
That is fact!
Originally posted by TheImmaculateD1
Think of TARP, the program as a parent company, now there were 2 wings that make up the program, Junior Company A is finance and Junior Company B is automotive so no, it was 1 item, 1 program!
Originally posted by TheImmaculateD1
It was a loan and not a bailout.
Originally posted by TheImmaculateD1
The Federal Govt relinquished it's constraints earlier this year as evidenced by GM's Public stock offering. GM also gave each and every hourly worker a bonus in September.
Originally posted by TheImmaculateD1
TARP has nothing to do with the finances of Detroit so don't even attempt to get me into a state of double speak.
Originally posted by TheImmaculateD1
So the bank bailouts (that was an actual bailout, more like a screwjob but the media won't call it that) were great and all mighty?
Originally posted by TheImmaculateD1
No, GM was not going to be allowed to fail as they were the manufactuer of The Presidential Motorcade and the rest of the current US Secret Service fleet. So, who do you propose get that contract? Toyota? BMW? Mercedes? Audi? Ford wanted no part of it, Chrysler has no long wheelbase sedan besides the Dodge Charger and couldn't provide one.
Originally posted by TheImmaculateD1
Identified that your case is worthless is the fact you've resorted to name calling, first and classico sign of the defeated!edit on 28-12-2011 by TheImmaculateD1 because: (no reason given)