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The Occupation has Failed

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posted on Dec, 22 2011 @ 05:05 PM
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students are not scholars...

life experience is also important... being 22 and upset with the "man" because of personal responsibility is called growing up... deal with it!

edit on 22-12-2011 by DrNotforhire because: (no reason given)




posted on Dec, 22 2011 @ 05:05 PM
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Just goes to show that people are not being educated in colleges and universities but indonctrinated which goes back to being taught what to think instead of how.

Get them while their young and you will have them for life cralde to grave nanny state.



posted on Dec, 22 2011 @ 05:05 PM
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Originally posted by Unknown Soldier

Good for you, criticising people that criticise corruption. You have really defined yourself there.



edit on 22-12-2011 by Unknown Soldier because: (no reason given)


T&C denies me what I'd like to say, but if I have to repeat previous posts I will.

Corruption is bad. (I'm typing slowly so you can follow along)
Occupy solutions are bad as well.
I don't want bigger government.

Occupy solutions were for bigger government.

Fail. EPIC.



posted on Dec, 22 2011 @ 05:05 PM
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Originally posted by sonnny1

Originally posted by neo96
reply to post by DrNotforhire
 


Yeah and they did model themselves after the Arab Spring uprisings!

A little too much consider all that happened there was well.


Ask those Arab Spring Protesters if its going well for them?

I say not.


They should cower in fear, we get it...



posted on Dec, 22 2011 @ 05:08 PM
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Originally posted by seabag

Originally posted by OUTofSTEPwithTHEworld
CAN YOU TELL ME WHAT YOU'VE DONE TO CHANGE ANYTHING?


If you’re not with OWS you’re sitting on your couch….blah…blah…blah! Stop using that line because it’s completely pathetic and played out!

The majority of Americans (you know…the ones who go to work) are not down there protesting because they don’t want to be seen with communists and all the others “ists” and “isms” that frequent these events. They don’t want to be involved or associated with the madness that is OWS. It is now a movement dominated by miscreants and instigators who live for the day; no vision, no plan, no clue!

Most Americans fully support many of the things OWS initially stood for. When the freaks came out and joined the party the normal people went home.

The people who don’t understand why OWS has a bad image and has lost support are the same people who just don’t understand why a dude with a Mohawk can’t seem to find a 9-5 job!

Some of you won’t understand that last sentence so just ask somebody around you.


Nice shade of "socialism red" there..................




posted on Dec, 22 2011 @ 05:08 PM
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off-topic post removed to prevent thread-drift


 



posted on Dec, 22 2011 @ 05:08 PM
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Pro Constitutional Republic which Democrats and liberals just don't seem to fathom and when they use Fascist totalitarian means i take issue.

Mob rule mentiality is the eptiome of OWS and their supporters.

Off topic: making Neo the topic here is trolling sound like a banned poster.
edit on 22-12-2011 by neo96 because: (no reason given)



posted on Dec, 22 2011 @ 05:09 PM
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Remember that little idiot, opportunistic kid in grade school that was always there to laugh at others misfortunes?

That's a lot of you.



posted on Dec, 22 2011 @ 05:09 PM
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Originally posted by beezzer

Originally posted by Unknown Soldier

Good for you, criticising people that criticise corruption. You have really defined yourself there.



edit on 22-12-2011 by Unknown Soldier because: (no reason given)


T&C denies me what I'd like to say, but if I have to repeat previous posts I will.

Corruption is bad. (I'm typing slowly so you can follow along)
Occupy solutions are bad as well.
I don't want bigger government.

Occupy solutions were for bigger government.

Fail. EPIC.


Occupy solutions are for ethics and rule of law.

Sorry.



posted on Dec, 22 2011 @ 05:10 PM
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Originally posted by TheLastStand
Individuals need the chance to get a solid foundation before they bother saving the planet. Collectivism is totally failboat when it comes to that. Collectivism only works for the people if voluntary consent is how it is brought about -- which is never the case, all government on this planet is hardly anything other than rule by force. Some are more blatant about it than others.


Exactly so.

If a system is based on voluntary consent, and no one consents, what's a good collectivist government to do?

Call in the goons. Institute a police state. Force the non-consenting proles into the mold against their own interests. After all, it's for the good of the State! Collectivists are sold the bill of goods that they are ALL the State. Baloney. If the means of production belong to "the people" in such a state, I invite any of the people to seize control of production - as is their right, if it belongs to them - and run it as they see fit.

Good luck with that. The State will squash them like a bug... because the State owns the means of production, including YOU. tell the State to go to hell, you're not working at that job any more, You want another, and will find it on your own. See how long it is before the Stasi in the trenchcoats come calling to whip you back into line. In such a state you don't even own YOURSELF.

"Fighting for freedom" my ass. these collectivists are just fighting for more - locked in slavery than they have now, and are fighting to insure it's applied to YOU, as well as all of your kids.

Misery loves company, I reckon.



posted on Dec, 22 2011 @ 05:10 PM
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Originally posted by OUTofSTEPwithTHEworld
reply to post by neo96
 

so because of the red on the poster is a "leftist" poster?
didn't know ONE color can mean so much, meibe a combination of colors.

have you failed to see how many university students are involved with this movement?
i myself am a student.


Fortunately for many of us, when we went to college we were already adults with a clue about how the world works. Too many students go right out of high school, still living with mommy and daddy, and get their heads filled with the BS that TPTB want them to know. Critical thinking is no longer the norm in college…just remembering how to regurgitate the lies is all that’s required to graduate. That’s why so many students flock to OWS



posted on Dec, 22 2011 @ 05:10 PM
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I remember this.I also remember how it was "supposed" to be a gaff,a joke,when confronted with it,and that he KNEW it was a hoax,but put it up there anyways. Now how does one legitimize his right to even talk on the subject,if hes willing to deceive everyone on ATS??


Really? You are still trying to go down that road eh? Ahh the buddy system, straw man attacks and stars.. so obvious. PI don't remember what thread it was do you have the link? Lets go there and i will be more then glad to pick apart your propaganda. It is you that is being dishonest and deceptive pal! Be my guest lets revisit that thread again. I implore anyone to see what i am talking about.

You tried to call us all drug addicted hippies, that didnt work

You tried to claim we were all marxist socialist liberals and that did not work either

You claimed we were all unemployed, fail again

Then we "squatters" are all taking a crap on the side walk... aghhhh umm yeah

If you cant attack the data attack the person - Stanton Friedman

I will go back and star your post because you need all the support you can get

edit on 22-12-2011 by Unknown Soldier because: (no reason given)

edit on 22-12-2011 by Unknown Soldier because: (no reason given)



posted on Dec, 22 2011 @ 05:10 PM
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Originally posted by seabag

Originally posted by OUTofSTEPwithTHEworld
CAN YOU TELL ME WHAT YOU'VE DONE TO CHANGE ANYTHING?


If you’re not with OWS you’re sitting on your couch….blah…blah…blah! Stop using that line because it’s completely pathetic and played out!

The majority of Americans (you know…the ones who go to work) are not down there protesting because they don’t want to be seen with communists and all the others “ists” and “isms” that frequent these events. They don’t want to be involved or associated with the madness that is OWS. It is now a movement dominated by miscreants and instigators who live for the day; no vision, no plan, no clue!

Most Americans fully support many of the things OWS initially stood for. When the freaks came out and joined the party the normal people went home.

The people who don’t understand why OWS has a bad image and has lost support are the same people who just don’t understand why a dude with a Mohawk can’t seem to find a 9-5 job!

Some of you won’t understand that last sentence so just ask somebody around you.



well as an OWS supporter i do work and i do go to school so hmmmm.
i do LOVE punk music but i don't have a mohawk, nor i dress like a punk.

meibe you should stop being so concentrated on their attire.
one question for you too sir/mah'm, did you visit a movement yourself?
can you define a "Normal person" for me?

EVERYTHING I READ ON YOUR POST MADE ME FEEL LIKE I WAS WATCHING FOX NEWS.
"normal" is perceived by the BEHOLDERS eyes.



posted on Dec, 22 2011 @ 05:11 PM
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Originally posted by Unknown Soldier
reply to post by beezzer
 



I deny Occupy.
I deny ANY organization that tries to include me without my permission!



OCCUPY is not a organisation, funny how so many critics like yourself complain about occupy being so disorganised having no leadership then call it an organisation.


BS!

They are trying to form their own political Party!

Really,for someone who has ALL the knowledge of OWS at your disposal,you sure dont look for information,to back what you say.



posted on Dec, 22 2011 @ 05:13 PM
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Originally posted by jacklondonmiller

Occupy solutions are for ethics and rule of law.

Sorry.


Prove it.



posted on Dec, 22 2011 @ 05:14 PM
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I'm honestly tired of being insulted.
I'm not a joke.
I'm not jobless.
I'm not uneducated.
I shower daily.
I'm not a communist.
I'm not a marxist.
I am left of center.
I don't own a drum.
I have danced at drum circles in my lifetime but never at Occupy, in fact anytime I was at the camp in Boston, I never heard a drum.
I don't litter.
I don't poop in public.
I don't stop people from getting to work.
I don't hate the rich.
I don't think the rich should buy me stuff.
I do think there's a vast amount of income inequality.
I think corporations own governments throughout the world.
I think it's too easy for the super rich, especially corporations to pay far less in taxes than their rates (effective taxes).
I think it's absolute insanity that corporations making billions in profits can also get millions in tax rebate.
I think it's unfair that a lobbyist can gain audience with elected officials but I can't.
I think it's unfair that dollars count more than my voice.
I think the regulations we have to safeguard us are assanine.
I think having NO regulations is more assanine.
I think that the only thing that should be too big to fail is the people.
I think it's criminal and evil for corporations to buy anything created by slave labor.
I think it's criminal and evil to propagate wars so that big contractors and big business can move in.
I think the Occupy Amendment should pass, effectively repealing Citizens United.
I am not unique.
So, my question is if one person can represent thousands within a movement why can't it be an example of someone like me?
edit on 22-12-2011 by Kali74 because: (no reason given)



posted on Dec, 22 2011 @ 05:14 PM
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Nice shade of "socialism red" there..................


Isn't it the republicans that always wear red ties?


so much for ol red white and blue
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posted on Dec, 22 2011 @ 05:14 PM
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There were zero fires in the Tea Party. There is no excuse for this. The only problems Tea Party had was when SEIU thugs showed up to beat people physically and to hold bogus signs.



posted on Dec, 22 2011 @ 05:14 PM
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Originally posted by Unknown Soldier
reply to post by sonnny1
 





I remember this.I also remember how it was "supposed" to be a gaff,a joke,when confronted with it,and that he KNEW it was a hoax,but put it up there anyways. Now how does one legitimize his right to even talk on the subject,if hes willing to deceive everyone on ATS??


Really? You are still trying to go down that road eh? Ahh the buddy system, straw man attacks and stars.. so obvious. PI don't remember what thread it was do you have the link? Lets go there and i will be more then glad to pick apart your propaganda. It is you that is being dishonest and deceptive pal! Be my guest lets revisit that thread again. I implore anyone to see what i am talking about.

You tried to call us all drug addicted hippies, that didnt work

You tried to claim we were all marxist socialist liberals and that did not work either

You claimed we were all unemployed, fail again

Then we "squatters" are all taking a crap on the side walk... aghhhh umm yeah

If you cant attack the data attack the person - Stanton Friedman

I will go back and star your post because you need all the support you can get

edit on 22-12-2011 by Unknown Soldier because: (no reason given)

edit on 22-12-2011 by Unknown Soldier because: (no reason given)


But you did try to DECEIVE ATS. Thats a FACT,were called out on it,and changed your post.

I can care less about Stars or Flags. I care about someone posting inaccurate information,to gather MORE support for a movement that doesn't needs the likes of people willing to lie about it.



posted on Dec, 22 2011 @ 05:15 PM
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I saw boston.. I heard drums and saw drunk people, trashed park (in the newspapers too!)

barricade..... so thats false.



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