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The Occupation has Failed

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posted on Dec, 22 2011 @ 04:12 PM
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Originally posted by beezzer
The 99% are Occupy.

Except for. . . . .
People who break stuff
People who burn stuff
People who make claims as to what Occupy stands for
People who poop on cars
People who raped
People who did drugs
People who stole
People who molested children
People who were with unions
People who were with the socialist party
People who were with the communist party
People who want Obama for a second term
People who want to destroy capitalism
People who want to destroy money

Out of the 99%, who's left?




Obviously, 3 bongo players and a mic man.

(Beezer, I always enjoy what you have to say!!!)

On a serious note, I KNOW that there's a lot more to OWS than bongos and the weird "mic check" stuff. I'm just going for a little levity here, so replies that tell me how far off I am on that will be ignored.

But--keeping it real--if you asked 100 people here in my hometown to describe OWS, I wonder how many of them would only be able to remember the bongos and the "mic check"?

For those of you OWS supporters whose hearts are in the right place, I know you're frustrated with how the rest of the "99%" perceive you. Just as I, a tea party supporter (before it was co-opted), was frustrated with how we were perceived.

The fact that I am not a backwoods racist didn't help me, when the media has played person after person talking about how backwoods-racist the tea party was.

The fact that YOU may not be a communist hippie playing a bongo has not helped YOU and your movement, either, since that is what you have been portrayed to be.

You can educate us on ATS all day long. But face it--the damage is done out in the real world. OWS will forever be thought of as a hippie tent-party, whether you feel like that image is accurate or not.

The tea party AND OWS have both had their images ruined.

Although, I do have to say, I never saw ANY backwoods-racism at a tea party event, and I'd be pretty sure that there were plenty of bongos at OWS. Just saying. :-)




posted on Dec, 22 2011 @ 04:13 PM
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Originally posted by SLAYER69

Originally posted by seabag
reply to post by XPLodER
 


Neo…Slayer…Beezer…anybody…are any of you getting $.50 per anti-OWS post?


i have not acused any member of being a sock puppet!!!!!!

do not attempt to silence me with a lie
i have accused no one of acually being a 50 cent sock puppet
FAIL
xp










posted on Dec, 22 2011 @ 04:13 PM
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Originally posted by seabag
reply to post by XPLodER
 


Neo…Slayer…Beezer…anybody…are any of you getting $.50 per anti-OWS post?

Hook me up! I’ve been doing it because it’s the right thing to do. I didn’t know I could get paid for being honest!!

I'm about to call my buddies on Wall Street and at the White House and see if I can get back-paid for all of this work I've done!

edit on 22-12-2011 by seabag because: (no reason given)


PayPal, it rocks.
Although you'll have to endure a swearing-in ceremony at John Stossel's house and drink blood from a half-skull given to you by Dick Chenney first



posted on Dec, 22 2011 @ 04:13 PM
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reply to post by Unknown Soldier
 


Sorry but if your not an American your opinions mean little to me stopped listening to what foreigners say and telling Americans what to do long ago.



posted on Dec, 22 2011 @ 04:18 PM
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Originally posted by XPLodER

ok following your thought process,
all american soilders are sport killers because 1 soilder was convicted
all politicains took insider trading payoff bribes because polosi did
all people who eat meat because 1 person did once one day somewhere

you see how intelicually dishonest you are being

the 99% encompasses evry personallity type, and all types of people
all political afiliations
all colours
all coltures
all ages
all races
all socio economic levels
all people.

so you can point to crimes and attempt to smear everyone with the same brush,
but that is exactly what the MSM does and people can see straight through your illogical assumtions,
that all are bad because some are.

at least be honest
all american soilders are NOT sport killers, but some are.

xploder


I deny Occupy.
I deny ANY organization that tries to include me without my permission!
As someone who isn't caucasion, I've been forced into "groups" and "categories"s all my life.

Like I've said before, I am 1.
An individual.

No group, no class, no category will EVER define me.



posted on Dec, 22 2011 @ 04:18 PM
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Originally posted by neo96
reply to post by seabag
 


We do not get paid man we just spread the wealth the OWS way and give to the less fortunate.

Shills and socket puppets get $$.


Actually some sock puppets don't get $$$ sock puppets are AI. Hard to tell if you are chatting with a real person or software. Heck i could probably get a job with the Army spreading propaganda and disinformation on this very site if i wanted. It's no secret, glp and tavistock ect. I am not one to play coy with my cohorts


For reference
www.abovetopsecret.com...
qutaibaprotocol.blogspot.com...



posted on Dec, 22 2011 @ 04:19 PM
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I think you missed his point entirely.

He was NOT saying OWS is like Nazi Germany. Calm down.

He was explaining what propaganda is.

Clearly, based upon that definition of propaganda, "We are the 99%" fits into that definition. Here it is from dictionary.com:

Propaganda: Information, esp. of a biased or misleading nature, used to promote or publicize a particular political cause or point of view.


Let's analyze "We are the 99%" based upon that definition. Saying "we are the 99%" is CLEARLY biased and misleading, because you do not speak for the 99%. Also, you are clearly trying to promote or publicize your political cause/point of view with that phrase.

Therefore, "We are the 99%"=propaganda.



posted on Dec, 22 2011 @ 04:19 PM
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Originally posted by neo96
reply to post by XPLodER
 


Making a poster the topic of a thread is the most epic fail there is around here

Thanks for the compliments.


you answered non of my arguments,
i suspect your here to derail debate
go away fly dont bother me

NEO pffft

xploder



posted on Dec, 22 2011 @ 04:24 PM
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Originally posted by XPLodER

Originally posted by neo96
Propaganda as defined by Joesph Goebbles was to confine your talking point to a single point and keep repeating it over and over aigan:


YOU DARE COMPAIR OWS TO THE EVILS OF NAZI GERMANY?
green shoots of recovery
green shoots of recovery
green shoots of recovery
green shoots of recovery

weaponds of mass distruction
weaponds of mass distruction
weaponds of mass distruction
weaponds of mass distruction

your poinion is a fail. as your NEO cons are the pros


Wall street is evil Propaganda
We are the 99% is Propaganda


so you support bank bailouts and forclosures and the NDAA
and you dont support free assembly and free speach


Calling other people who disagree with the premise of OWS socket puppets is propaganda and a deflection attempt for the simple fact you do not like what they say.


when members are spouting obviously illogical and intentionally decieving material i point it out,
i have not called any member directly a sock puppet, as detailed in the t&cs


OWS is pure Propaganda from time and failed Marxism,Communism,Socialism and Stupidism each time it comes back around repackaged and scream it looks good on paper but in practice leads to the same place it always has death destruction and insulting others who just think its one of the most stupid ideals that has ever been thought up..


what you mean acually prosicute crime from wall street?
the socialists given your collective wealth?
the ones who demanded a socialist bailout ?

double speach much?


And yep the thought nazis and their fascist means try to shut down any other thought than but theirs the typical leftist OWS supporter.
edit on 22-12-2011 by neo96 because: (no reason given)


and now you compair genoside to OWS,
is there no lower you can stoop to?

how dare you

xp
edit on 22-12-2011 by XPLodER because: (no reason given)


That nonsensical rambling had a point?

Don't like what i have to say do not reply to me but people are free to write my posts for me.



posted on Dec, 22 2011 @ 04:25 PM
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Originally posted by SLAYER69

Originally posted by Unknown Soldier
Still blowing that puss toot ?

You are nothing more then a tool spewing propaganda, none of your claims hold any water.


Pot Meet Kettle






You have ZERO room to talk.
Just like when you posted this known hoaxed picture as fact...




Originally posted by Unknown Soldier
We are a reality, we have taken to the streets world wide.. they just regurgitate propaganda on web sites


This is US





sonnny1 then rightfully called you out on it




Originally posted by sonnny1
reply to post by Unknown Soldier
 


Your second Picture has been proven to be a HOAX.



As you said........

We are a reality, we have taken to the streets world wide.. they just regurgitate propaganda on web sites ........









Oh wow that's pathetic lol...



posted on Dec, 22 2011 @ 04:25 PM
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reply to post by neo96
 


Well Occupy isn't just American.



posted on Dec, 22 2011 @ 04:26 PM
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Originally posted by GeorgiaGirl
reply to post by XPLodER
 


I think you missed his point entirely.

He was NOT saying OWS is like Nazi Germany. Calm down.

He was explaining what propaganda is.

Clearly, based upon that definition of propaganda, "We are the 99%" fits into that definition. Here it is from dictionary.com:

Propaganda: Information, esp. of a biased or misleading nature, used to promote or publicize a particular political cause or point of view.


Let's analyze "We are the 99%" based upon that definition. Saying "we are the 99%" is CLEARLY biased and misleading, because you do not speak for the 99%. Also, you are clearly trying to promote or publicize your political cause/point of view with that phrase.

Therefore, "We are the 99%"=propaganda.






i thank you for clearing that up i was about to go nova on his a@@

i will atempt to clarify the 99% label.

nobody is included in the 99% as a political group, without swearing non violence and directly supporting OWS
i dont claim YOU as part of the political 99%.

i claim you are unknowingly part of the 99% who gets shafted by the large wall street crimes.
who pays taxes while corps pay nothing.
this is the 99% message.

when everybody who has been ripped off sits down together,
we will find a mere 1% robbing us blind.

again thank you for clearing that up i was about to tear someone a new one

i need to remember some people dont know how sensitive the genoside is to a person like me.

xploder




it is simply a way of showing that



posted on Dec, 22 2011 @ 04:27 PM
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reply to post by Kali74
 


Hello Kali :p

What went on in New York,Chicago and Oakland was American and the ideology and those people and their actions.

That is like me commenting on what happens in the EU or Canada it's meaningless.
edit on 22-12-2011 by neo96 because: (no reason given)



posted on Dec, 22 2011 @ 04:27 PM
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Well, I did hear the president of the United States repeating what the protesters were saying. So this means there was some success.



posted on Dec, 22 2011 @ 04:29 PM
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Originally posted by inivux
reply to post by StarPeace
 
All those things you claim they are doing ("harassment"), was and is in the name of getting you deluded sheeple to get your heads out of your own asses.

If they protested "out of the way" in "Free Speech Zones", you would never see them, and go about your merry little way, to Starbucks, or McDonald's, or Walmart, or some office drone job where you are getting paid just enough to keep you there.

Are some of them misguided? Yes. Are some of them over-zealous? Yes. Are some of them immature, ignorant, anarchists desperately looking for a larger group to latch on to? Yes. Are some of them agent provocateurs? Yes.

None of that lessens the legitimacy of the underlying principle.

They will be getting in your face, because they care for you. Because you are too complacent and/or ignorant to care yourself.

There is nothing you can personally do about it, except complain about it on a forum (and bring more attention to their cause), or call the police. You are doing more good than harm with threads like these.

Sorry it is inconvenient for you that people are fighting for your Constitutional rights.

Now kindly shut your mouth.
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AMEN to that


Could not have said it better myself. Is hard to put in to words with so many things that OWS is trying to say. The anti-OWS muppets probably will never get it until they themselves are taken out of their comfort zone. System justification due to years of programming. If it was that easy to unplug them from the machine "sighs"



posted on Dec, 22 2011 @ 04:30 PM
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i dont like anyone who insinuates the crimes of nazi germany are something to belittle.
i have been corrected by another member who pointed out your acual intent,

for my rant i apologise for mis interpreting your nazi comment,
i am sensitive to this topic and beleive it should be used as a comparison very VERY carefully.

my family WAS jewish,
xploder



posted on Dec, 22 2011 @ 04:33 PM
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Originally posted by earthdude
Well, I did hear the president of the United States repeating what the protesters were saying. So this means there was some success.

Of course! he wants your votes...sadly it seems no one else wants them.



posted on Dec, 22 2011 @ 04:34 PM
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Originally posted by earthdude
Well, I did hear the president of the United States repeating what the protesters were saying. So this means there was some success.


Shoot, he STARTED it. If anything, they were repeating what HE said. "Wall Street vs. Main Street" was Obama's rhetoric from way back.



posted on Dec, 22 2011 @ 04:34 PM
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Yeah well the only thing i spoke about in my posts was propaganda and considering the anit-semitic videos by some OWS supporters wonder if there was any "outrage" about that or the simple fact that the nazi party endorsed and marched with OWS or the Communist and socialist parties.

Sorry considering the history of OWS you chose to "mis interpret" a post on here to get mad about.

Sorry i pass on that.



posted on Dec, 22 2011 @ 04:35 PM
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Originally posted by StarPeace

Originally posted by SLAYER69

Originally posted by Unknown Soldier
Still blowing that puss toot ?

You are nothing more then a tool spewing propaganda, none of your claims hold any water.


Pot Meet Kettle






You have ZERO room to talk.
Just like when you posted this known hoaxed picture as fact...




Originally posted by Unknown Soldier
We are a reality, we have taken to the streets world wide.. they just regurgitate propaganda on web sites


This is US





sonnny1 then rightfully called you out on it




Originally posted by sonnny1
reply to post by Unknown Soldier
 


Your second Picture has been proven to be a HOAX.



As you said........

We are a reality, we have taken to the streets world wide.. they just regurgitate propaganda on web sites ........









Oh wow that's pathetic lol...


Yeah slayer did not post a link to that thread. He did not post anything of the conversation contained in said thread just a picture and comment. That is indeed pathetic, then using my signature to mock me. Yeah i see you boys are taking notes from FOX news right there.

Bow put your pom pom's down



Not to mention that i have ripped slayer in several threads, ask Slayer about those "squatters" lol. It's all spray and prey coming from that end imo.
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