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Originally posted by Kali74
reply to post by sonnny1
I came across this article just now, I hope you and others will take some time to read it all. It's a good unbiased report (good and bad in my opinion) about DC. wired.com
Originally posted by newcovenant
reply to post by StarPeace
The Occupation has succeeded in ways you will never know.
Isn't this more of a rant?
No star, no flag for disparaging people who at least tried to effect change.
edit on 21-12-2011 by newcovenant because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by FlyersFan
The Occupation has Failed
I think that's a fair statement. It is pretty much over. I know some folks say it'll wake up in the spring. But I really don't see it. America has moved on. OWS never really spoke for 99% of Americans, even though it claimed to. It's over. Started out good ... but epic fail.
Originally posted by detachedindividual
Originally posted by SLAYER69
reply to post by Kali74
But here is the Difference.
You wont find too many ATS Tea Party supporters bending over backwards in a near Superhuman contortionist maneuver in an attempt to Justify, Deny and or make excuses for their actions or activities like you do by ATS OWS supporters for all the Communists and others etc etc etc who show up at OWS protests.
Now do you?
No, because, surprisingly, having various political ideals and perceptions is not illegal, like calling for assassination. Believing in another political system is not akin to calling for the death of a president.
OWS supports free discussion, about legal subjects. Last time I checked, believing in communism, capitalism, fascism, or any other poxy ism wasn't ILLEGAL.
This place truly astounds me sometimes.
And we wonder why ATS is mocked? With people who on the one hand scram about their right to believe what they want to believe, while calling for the oppression of people who believe in differing political systems to them.
Deliberative, anticipatory and bioregional approaches can all be considered variants of participatory democracy with different thresholds of ease of participation, burden of proof, concern for non-human life or future generations, and reflection of participants' tolerances versus preferences or ideals of truth. Sometimes a deliberative model is described as more "left" and an anticipatory model as more "right". Those who wish to avoid this debate and see merits to both approaches, e.g. Greens, usually prefer the generic term "participatory democracy". This term has become fundamental to green politics itself.
Originally posted by Drezden
reply to post by SLAYER69
Why do you do that? You base your responses around technicalities when they suit you, a part of my post didn't include OWS... have you seen half your posts on this thread, some with not even a word relating to OWS.
I stated that Iraq was about corporation profits and you chose an opposing view defending. You make jokes and go off thread topic constantly but it's not a problem until you point it out in someone else.
It's like arguing with a teenager who isn't mature enough to acknowledge their own mistakes, but they will certainly point out other peoples'
Our government is actively seeking a war with Iran, our government is hell bent on crashing the economy, all you want to do is sit on an internet website and collect stars from your loyal internet fans...
OWS is the only people doing something.