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Topic started on 21-12-2011 @ 11:59 AM by Nathwa
WASHINGTON (AP) -- The U.S. government paid scientists to figure out how the deadly bird flu virus might mutate to become a bigger threat to people — and two labs succeeded in creating new strains that are easier to spread.

On Tuesday, federal officials took the unprecedented step of asking those scientists not to publicize all the details of how they did it.

The worry: That this research with lots of potential to help the public might also be hijacked by would-be bioterrorists. The labs found that it appears easier than scientists had thought for the so-called H5N1 bird flu to evolve in a way that lets it spread easily between at least some mammals.

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What we have here apparently is research that has been conducted on bird flu, the results of which are being limited to the public. I believe there are two scenarios. The first is that the information is being limited so that bioterrorists cannot access the information, as a matter of national security. The second is that the government has sinister intentions with this bird flu strain, and is making the nature of said strain top secret, so that it will be easier to release it upon the people.

What does everyone think? Could there be other motives here? I am inclined to believe the first scenario, but then again that is the one that I want to believe.


reply posted on 21-12-2011 @ 12:33 PM by UdonNiedtuno
I was looking around ATS for posts about this yesterday, I was going to put one up myself but forgot that I still need a few more posts before I can start threads. Anyways, when I was poking around yesterday I found a couple earlier threads about this research. Interestingly, it appears that Scientific American already posted a summary article which for the most part tells you how to create the necessary mutation:

ATS Thread

Scientific American article

Money quote:
The variety that they had created, however, when tested in ferrets (the best animal model for influenza research) still did not transmit very easily just through close contact. It wasn't until "someone finally convinced me to do something really, really stupid," Fouchier said, that they observed the deadly H5N1 become a viable aerosol virus. In the derided experiment, they let the virus itself evolve to gain that killer capacity. To do that, they put the mutated virus in the nose of one ferret; after that ferret got sick, they put infected material from the first ferret into the nose of a second. After repeating this 10 times, H5N1 became as easily transmissible as the seasonal flu.


Yeah, that was really, really stupid....


reply posted on 21-12-2011 @ 01:02 PM by UdonNiedtuno
reply to post by TheMindWar



I agree and disagree, I think the purpose is to provide a scapegoat for when "they" actually release it unto the people. Most estimates I have seen suggest 60% of those infected will die, well those that live now have a convenient lie to be told so they don't blame the powers that be, I suggest it will be one of the following:
1) those researchers let the virus escape the lab.....OR
2) those researchers shared their data and it got into the hands of the terrorists

Same effect either way.

ETA: Your point about them spinning this so they look like the "good guys" by restricting the info I 100% agree with. I think that is EXACTLY what is going on there.
edit on 21-12-2011 by UdonNiedtuno because: add info



reply posted on 21-12-2011 @ 01:14 PM by VforVendettea
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There are no rogue bio-terrorists. The 'anthrax' indecent was a false flag.
If my taxes are paying for it I have a right to view the data.
I have pet birds ergo I have a valid 'need' to know.


reply posted on 28-12-2011 @ 06:37 PM by smugmushroom
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What's even more scary is that Yahoo UK! News has only just reported this!!!


reply posted on 28-12-2011 @ 06:40 PM by smugmushroom
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After I read the article, the first thing I though was, WTF are they doing genetically modifying this virus so its easier to trasmit to mammals. Two independant research groups actually played with this fkr of a virus and made it more deadly as part of their "research".... what the hell man???
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