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posted on Dec, 22 2011 @ 07:18 AM
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Poor economy? 5th highest GDP in the world, not bad for a tiny Island nation. Banking capital of the world and a nation that still holds a AAA+ credit rating, of which the USA and all of Europe besides Germany do not. Give over, you are talking out of one's bottom my friend.




posted on Dec, 22 2011 @ 07:20 AM
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Originally posted by michael1983l
Poor economy? 5th highest GDP in the world, not bad for a tiny Island nation. Banking capital of the world and a nation that still holds a AAA+ credit rating, of which the USA and all of Europe besides Germany do not. Give over, you are talking out of one's bottom my friend.


The country with the 5th highest GDP in the world is France...



posted on Dec, 22 2011 @ 07:22 AM
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My mistake, 6th. Won't be long until it is 5th though what with France's economy being in an absolute ruin.



posted on Dec, 22 2011 @ 07:26 AM
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Of course it's all about oil and the money they make from it and as usual the rest of us will not reap the rewards. The British government couldn't care less about the people of the Falkland Islands.The only thing we have to look forward to is oil and gas prices going up. But what's new.

British Government Neglects Falklands Fishing Opportunities
www.falklands.info...

Perhaps one of the most remarkable and costly failure of the British Government is their omission to have declared a 200-mile fishing limit around the Falkland Islands and their Dependencies. Their failure to do so is almost certainly costing the Falkland Islanders a healthy income of larger proportions than that gained from sheep farming, the Islands staple economy. Further, because there is still only, at present, a British claim to a three-mile territorial sea around the islands, at least six foreign nations have been for some years, and still are now, overfishing as hard as they can before any restrictions or control are imposed. The situation is remarkable because everyone with any interest in the area has been telling successive British Governments about this situation for some years, and yet the British Government remains tight lipped and apparently inactive.

Oil War in the Falkland Islands
www.oil-price.net...

Argentina toughens shipping rules in Falklands oil row
news.bbc.co.uk...

Rockhopper optimism on Falklands oil development
www.bbc.co.uk...

Argentina to protest Falklands’ oil activities and invites UN C24 president to Buenos Aires
en.mercopress.com...

Falkland Islands Oil History: Argentina Misses Out Again
www.aussieviewsnews.com...



posted on Dec, 22 2011 @ 07:26 AM
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Originally posted by torqpoc

Originally posted by Twiptwop
F*ck what other people think, we are the British. We are a class above any other nationality and answer to nobody. Don't like us? Too bad.


Hahaha.. haha.. hahahahahahaha.. haha.. hahahahahahaha.

Britain, and I still love the fact the Great seems to be omitted more and more, answers to the exact same people the rest of the countries which make up this planet answer to. Those people aren't British, nor do they care about nationality.

The Great British Empire is long gone, but the arrogance remains. It's one of the ironic things I find a day to day pleasure: the pompous and posturing accompanied by the conscious knowledge that Britain is really quite a backward country with little to offer, poor economy, huge social divides and in the exact same poo that everyone else is in.

Keep that stiff upper lip won't you Dear? We wouldn't want to point out everything that the Great British Empire has lost now would we? *smirk*

T


It would be interesting to know why you think Great Britain is a "Backward" country. This i must hear.

Great Britain still has a major influence on the world. It's called "The English Language" You know what that is i take it? You are communicating in English are you not?



posted on Dec, 22 2011 @ 07:29 AM
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No problem mate.



posted on Dec, 22 2011 @ 07:29 AM
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You're all being played. This is about diplomacy. UK power has diminished since last negotiations about international trade took place. They want a new deal. BRIC is growing. New trade-negotiations need to take into account that geo-economic factors have been changed. South-America will probably act more as a unit, blocking other countries access to that continent in the future. Many areas of the world will probably start these kinds of negotiations soon.



posted on Dec, 22 2011 @ 07:34 AM
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Originally posted by michael1983l
reply to post by GLontra
 


My mistake, 6th. Won't be long until it is 5th though what with France's economy being in an absolute ruin.


In fact, the UK is now the 7th economy:

www.telegraph.co.uk...

www.economicvoice.com...

www.financenews.co.uk...



posted on Dec, 22 2011 @ 07:38 AM
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Originally posted by kindred
reply to post by michael1983l
 


Of course it's all about oil and the money they make from it and as usual the rest of us will not reap the rewards. The British government couldn't care less about the people of the Falkland Islands.The only thing we have to look forward to is oil and gas prices going up. But what's new.

British Government Neglects Falklands Fishing Opportunities
www.falklands.info...

Perhaps one of the most remarkable and costly failure of the British Government is their omission to have declared a 200-mile fishing limit around the Falkland Islands and their Dependencies. Their failure to do so is almost certainly costing the Falkland Islanders a healthy income of larger proportions than that gained from sheep farming, the Islands staple economy. Further, because there is still only, at present, a British claim to a three-mile territorial sea around the islands, at least six foreign nations have been for some years, and still are now, overfishing as hard as they can before any restrictions or control are imposed. The situation is remarkable because everyone with any interest in the area has been telling successive British Governments about this situation for some years, and yet the British Government remains tight lipped and apparently inactive.

Oil War in the Falkland Islands
www.oil-price.net...

Argentina toughens shipping rules in Falklands oil row
news.bbc.co.uk...

Rockhopper optimism on Falklands oil development
www.bbc.co.uk...

Argentina to protest Falklands’ oil activities and invites UN C24 president to Buenos Aires
en.mercopress.com...

Falkland Islands Oil History: Argentina Misses Out Again
www.aussieviewsnews.com...





Lets make this really simple so you can understand

Those Islands are British territory with british inhabitants and have been for hundreds of years, before Argentina was ever a Nation,

British company's are drilling for oil there,

Argentina wants the Oil, thats pretty much it fairly simple to understand really, so stop with the mumbo jumbo and come with some good reasons as to why we shouldn't continue & why you feel those Islands 400miles of its coast belong to Argentinian?

We have every right to do so, its not hard to see why the Argies are playing games now is it, really?



posted on Dec, 22 2011 @ 07:51 AM
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Predicted too according to your sources is not yet fact, how about you come back and gloat when it is fact? But don't be surprised if no one cares one way or the other, since we have been at the bottom and nearly bankrupt as much as we have been at the top..
edit on 22/12/11 by thoughtsfull because: (no reason given)



posted on Dec, 22 2011 @ 07:56 AM
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Originally posted by torqpoc
Britain, and I still love the fact the Great seems to be omitted more and more,


Point of fact, the Great refers to the island, not any pompous claim of uber-ness, although we are that cool anyway....


Originally posted by torqpoc
The Great British Empire is long gone, but the arrogance remains. It's one of the ironic things I find a day to day pleasure: the pompous and posturing accompanied by the conscious knowledge that Britain is really quite a backward country with little to offer, poor economy, huge social divides and in the exact same poo that everyone else is in.


Backward? How so? Social divides, yes, but not crippling like in some other countries and we certainly have plenty to offer. The fact your post reeks of anti-British venom betrays the fact you simply haven't a clue.


Originally posted by torqpoc
Keep that stiff upper lip won't you Dear? We wouldn't want to point out everything that the Great British Empire has lost now would we? *smirk*


Indeed we bloody well will. Why do you think, despite our problems, we're just getting on with it rather than rioting (ala Greece) or beating the drums of discord to deflect attention (France, Argentina, Germany).

Keep calm, carry on. There's a good chap...



posted on Dec, 22 2011 @ 08:09 AM
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Just the kind of responses I was looking for, thank you for not disappointing me.

To the ramparts Englishmen!

*smirk*

Truly comical guys and girls.

Backward? Let's see - one of the worst internet provision in all of Europe, trains stops for leaves and snow, entire airports closed off due to too much snow. A divide bigger than the Atlantic between the North and South on wages, cost of living, cost of housing, unemployment, satisfaction. Shall I continue?

A banking system to be proud of? Don't make me laugh.. been to London recently to see all the b(replace with w)ankers snorting coke in toilets due to their excessive bonuses making YOUR yearly wages lower year on year due to YOUR bonus being lower than inflation? Tried to get a mortgage recently if you earn a normal wage? *grin*

Less we forget a divide between management and normal worker wages which hasn't been this bad since the 1800s right?

If you manage to take a step back from your high horse(s) and be a little introspective you'd realise that your little island isn't all that. You whine and complain on a daily basis, yet as soon as someone points it out, you get all huffed up and defend the very same country like little ants defending their hill.

At least in other countries they have the balls to stand up for their beliefs, statements and disgruntled state of mind.

Backwards also includes mentality and social interactions of which you have in heaps and bounds, thank fully though the rest of Europe is starting to melt away your ice cold hearts and demeanour.

In a few generations your stiff upper lip will be a thing of the past, but do carry on.. the comedy is heart warming.

T




edit on 22-12-2011 by torqpoc because: (no reason given)



posted on Dec, 22 2011 @ 08:14 AM
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If you want to sacrifice your life fighting wars for oil and making corporations rich, then go ahead. Personally i've got better things to do and it's not like these wars ever benefit the people or our economy.
Maybe we should be more enlightened and diplomatic and share the oil and gas resources.
There's more than enough to go around.



posted on Dec, 22 2011 @ 08:14 AM
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You are right on all of those points and despite all of that our nation is still very productive. Thank you for pointing out all the hardships in place that should see us fail as a nation yet we do not. That is a testiment to the British people, I will gladly take your compliments with pleaseure. Thank you very much



posted on Dec, 22 2011 @ 08:16 AM
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You're very welcome, but a little naive. You'll fail, just like everyone else.

Keep it stiff, wouldn't want to show the slightest wobble now would we?

T



posted on Dec, 22 2011 @ 08:24 AM
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Originally posted by mayabong
Looks like South America told Britain to go Faulk themselves.


HaHa! Very nice... you're a cunning linguist.



posted on Dec, 22 2011 @ 08:30 AM
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Maybe we should be more enlightened and diplomatic and share the oil and gas resources. There's more than enough to go around.


With all due respect it has been pointed out on numerous occassions that the UK offered to share all exploratory costs and any future profits equally with Argentina.
This would have included the development of large oil refineries in Argentina itself.
A more than generous offer considering Argentina has no legal right to anything whatsoever.
Argentina declined the offer.
So one has to wonder why?



posted on Dec, 22 2011 @ 08:36 AM
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Worst internet provision in all Europe? Is that the same internet a British scientist got to work in the first place?



posted on Dec, 22 2011 @ 09:11 AM
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Just because diplomancy fails once doesn't mean you should stop trying. Today Argentina has a different government, so this time they might be more reasonable. It's also not just Argentina that is being provocative, the British government also wants to extend a marine protection zone in the South Atlantic. Why has the UK government become so concerned about penguins all of a sudden?

en.mercopress.com...

www.globalpost.com...

Who knows what Argentina really wants. It's not like you can believe everything you read in British media these days, especially nonsense like this.

Argentina wants a provocative 'Falklands are ours' badge at Olympics
www.dailymail.co.uk...

The previous attempt to share exploitation of Falklands oil with Argentina
www.telegraph.co.uk...

History of the Falklands
www.historyworld.net...
edit on 22-12-2011 by kindred because: (no reason given)



posted on Dec, 22 2011 @ 09:27 AM
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It was Kirchner who turned down the offer.

She wants to sacrifice the opportunity to gain some much needed wealth for her country and the chance to develop closer links with both the UK and the islanders themselves.
Who knows what that might have led to a generation or two down the line.
All to further her own personal political ambitions.
But hey, let's face it, she's not the first politician, and female one at that, to put personal glory before national interest.



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