Some day I'll build giant spaceships so the rest of you can leave my planet. Except for those who wish to stay as caretakers. It pains me to see what's been done to mother earth. Humans are still just fleas on a dog though. Annoying but not a huge threat to the planet, only to life on the surface.

Hollowed out asteroids. Giant colonies made up of hollowed out asteroids and turned into ships. Sent off in different directions and just capture and adapt new asteriods along the journey as is needed. All the resources needed for the journey would most likely be found in the asteriods as well.

Some would fail and some would find a new home. Either way the people left on earth won't know what happens to them in the end and earth would most likely become some kind of legend by the time the colonist found a new home.

Oh. And the people who set off won't be the people who arrive at whichever planet they find. They could be out there for hundreds of thousands of years looking. In fact it might even create a new sub species of human.

Originally posted by rigel4
Not sure of the exact prophecy from Nostradamus, but he foresaw "man" entering the atmosphere with Giant ships,
on an Alien Planet.

Maybe he saw the past... man arriving on THIS 'alien world' from the ARK Noah's Ark

Sumerians believed that the universe consisted of a flat disk enclosed by a tin dome(2). The Sumerian afterlife involved a descent into a gloomy netherworld to spend eternity in a wretched existence as a Gidim (ghost).

Humans ain't going anywhere. We were born here on Earth and that's where we're staying. Our weak little bodies can't survive the trip. The closest we'll get to traveling any distance in space is via our intelligent machine proxies. Otherwise, we'll eventually be satisfied with virtual representations of fantasy planets fed into our brains. That's okay, though. Turns out real-life planets and moons are pretty boring.

Great OP

I'd S & F, but I'm new ... and ... anyway the topic...

I'd be really annoyed if the human race at some point didn't take leaving earth as a serious possibility.

We have moved in all the right directions, if we had transferred the money from war into space exploration, we'd already be sipping Jimmy Cans on the moon.

But alas, we'd rather blow each other to smithereens and stand back when nothings left, just to say... "I'm the last man standing, and I've got about 6 minutes to live . . "

Anyway.. I've contemplated this at times, ... this would be my plan..

We need people to have the knowledge of NASA and all the other ROCKET building companies, all the TOP SECRET fuel information, the stuff we're never gonna get.

If people could access the same info as any of the Space Programs, private and government, then Joe Civilian could be helping better the program.

If people started to get a genuine understanding of the hurdles we face leaving the planet then more minds would be working on a way to "jump" these hurdles.

So we take small community groups and start our own testing, start small, get more an more people involved.

the major limiting constraint is BUDGET, space programs are not "Commercially valuable" YET. But if you scale the tests down, say, don't send a 400ton ship into space, send a 4kg RC into space, with payload delivery and replicate the science at scale.

This will not be as accurate as doing it FULL SCALE, but hell it's gotta lead somewhere.

Then, what you do, is just slowly move the goalposts. So a Program may run like this.

1. Form Group of Like minds
2. R&D
3. Choose a Craft
4. Modify Craft for Space Flight
5. Organize a Network of Amateur Radio Enthusiast to assist in global tracking.
6. Initiate Ground Testing
7. Stratospheric Test
8. Orbital Test and Track
9. Place RC Vehicle in Stable Orbit Around Earth.

This is by no means a conclusive list, as there is much much detail in every step.

Now, the next biggest hurdle, will be... The guys that have the brains saying the guys that don't have the brains can't do it... Well.. Come join us and help.. then we can do anything.. . . .

It's not bloody rocket science after all.... well... maybe it is... but who said you had to be a rocket scientist to shoot things into space.. hehe... Anyway.. that's my simple plan... I can elaborate in my meat and potato's kind a way if anyone's interested.

the more i see of humans, the less sympathy i have.

and the more i think they should go down with the planet, if it's going down...

sorry...no point in trashing one planet and then going on to trash the next one.

confine humans to this one til they learn how to behave if you ask me...