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Originally posted by Swills
reply to post by MaxJohnson
I totally agree but those in power have already enacted their defenses, such as the recent detention bill. If we go after these criminals I wouldnt be surprised if we are labeled terrorists and locked away forever
Originally posted by Sek82
reply to post by MaxJohnson
If I'm honest, I have been wondering about this lately... If it could even be possible to turn the law around on the creators of them, to charge them with domestic terrorism and the like, seeing as in a way they really are guilty of it one could argue. The war on terror has been against us, not some phantom "axis of evil" abroad as Bush sold it to us during his years in office.
But how? What to do, call the FBI and say "Hi, yes I'd like to report terrorist activity within the US." And then you go on to describe how it's the congress or whatever, what would happen then? Could someone be taken seriously when making this allegation? Or would this just land one in indefinite detention never to be seen again?
Originally posted by bekod
reply to post by Sek82
there are laws on the books that does just this, but you have be on the Senate floor and know the rules of the senate to be heard[ no you do not be a Senator or a House member] and it does take two to do it.
One to make the clam's the second to second it.
First know the charges to bring, second name the ones being charged, present copy's to all in House and senate, and all three branches, must have a copy as well.
Not an easy task, by time it is ready to go there are usually voted out, die in office, or make some kind of flip flop making the charges null and void.
The "P" act and SUB SEC D HR1540, aka NDAA 2012 is it really in the best interest of the USA and it's citizens?
Does the TSA DHS operate
outside the best interest of USA citizens, and with best interest of the USA?.
Does it violate the US Constitution?
If so how.
By what section "USC" and what amendment do they violate.
Dose it effect all or just one group , this is the rub, it effects just one group but all can be listed, so is it worth while to pursue? This i can not tell you, but the right and the laws are there.
Originally posted by drmeola
One of these days you all might wake up and learn the truth as it applies to law, been teaching this for many years now but everyone has been brainwashed and do NOT want to hear the truth.
Law is the key out of this mess but until people start to study and understand the FACTS all the rest is nothing more than a rant. Look up my threads on the law for the education we have all been denied, then maybe we might just get somewhere.
Lesson one is law language differs from common speak, we say words like WE THE PEOPLE, common speak has everyone brainwashed to think it means you and I.
The Law on the contract, the Constitution is a contract and every word has a very specific meaning according to the law. In law language we the people are in fact the popular leaders ie electors of the population. And NOT you and I. In law the contract must stand above all so question did you sign the Constitution is your name on that contract? I think NOT. So how does it apply to you and I, the 14th amendment took care of that for us and we by our actions or silence VOLUNTEER to be subject to the contract and its laws passed by the rulers. Such as voting which is the biggest crime you can commit, drivers license, registrations, just to mention a few.
All statue laws are considered private laws with fines attached to tickets, private laws because they only apply to United States Citizens/Nationals of and not everyone.
The Common Law applies to all ie public law and total freedom but you need status to be heard in a common law court. Citizens no longer have status and thus are subject to fines and penalties of any and all scams your government decides to place upon you.
Much more can be found on my threads about this topic, the laws put us into this mess but the good news, it also has provided a way out. PAC has been using the only lawful process/remedy to lawfully remove yourself from the Federal control placing one back into the Republican form of governance where only the Common law applies. 35 years of lawful process with not one single ticket or arrest from the defacto, total peace and total freedom from the madness the choice is yours, rant and do nothing or correct your status and be free.