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Do You Support White Supremacist Ron Paul ?
10 quotes directly from Ron Paul that make him sound incredibly racist, it’s hard to believe otherwise. Read the quotes for yourself, and see if you believe Ron Paul is a racist.
1. ”We don’t think a child of 13 should be held responsible as a man of 23. That’s true for most people, but black males age 13 who have been raised on the streets and who have joined criminal gangs are as big, strong, tough, scary and culpable as any adult and should be treated as such.”
2. “What else do we need to know about the political establishment than that it refuses to discuss the crimes that terrify Americans on grounds that doing so is racist? Why isn’t that true of complex embezzling, which is 100 percent white and Asian?”
3. ”Six-hundred-thousand Americans died in the senseless Civil War. No, he should not have gone to war. He did this just to enhance and get rid of the original tenet of the Republic.” -Regarding the Civil War
4. ”Given the inefficiencies of what DC laughingly calls the criminal justice system, I think we can safely assume that 95 percent of the black males in that city are semi-criminal or entirely criminal. These aren’t my figures, that is the assumption you can gather from” the report.”
5. “Contrary to the claims of the supporters of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and the sponsors of H.Res. 676, the Civil Rights Act of 1964 did not improve race relations or enhance freedom. Instead, the forced integration dictated by the Civil Rights Act of 1964 increased racial tensions while diminishing individual liberty.” -On the 40th Anniversary of the Civil Rights Act
6. “The Criminals who terrorize our cities – in riots and on every non-riot day – are not exclusively young black males, but they largely are.”
7. “I wouldn’t vote against getting rid of the Jim Crow laws.” -When asked if he would have voted for the Civil Rights Act.
8. “Opinion polls consistently show that only about 5 percent of blacks have sensible political opinions, i.e. support the free market, individual liberty and the end of welfare and affirmative action.”
9. “Immigrants can spread diseases for which we may have no immunity. There is also the question of crime and culture. Many immigrants come from countries with different legal structures and are not willing to behave in the way we expect American citizens to behave.”
10. “There is no such thing as a hate crime.”
Originally posted by dontreally
reply to post by getreadyalready
What good is comparing him to someone else if I said "In principle, I do not trust anyone in politics."...
Well, the information in this thread is a bit disconcerting.
And on a deeper, more esoteric note, I can't imagine anyone being apart of any establishment and not being privy to the mystical/metaphysical dimension of politics. The 'shadow' side as it is called.
Freemasonry has it's tentacles everywhere. And all good, upstanding men, are there to play their part. I believe, not a single important thing happens without it being engineered.
This is something so many people just cant deal with. You either know - and therefore do not discuss it with the uninitiated, or you don't know, and so are naive. That's it. That, in my opinion, is as varied a position you get. And my position, which is even more nebulous, makes it very difficult for me to explain my views.
You want to know society, know its upper strata; don't just study the present, but the past, as the present is based on the past. When you get at the core of the situation, you begin to form a picture - a fundamental outlook, of where societies intelligentsia are leading us.
The essence of the west is embodied in ancient Greek philosophy. And I don't agree with it... That's it. I disagree with the essence of modern thinking, because it bases itself primarily on ancient Greek thinking.
But -- Just because I distrust Paul and see in him a red herring, I still have hope, I still much prefer his political platform than any other politician. So even though there is contradiction in my views (and given the complexity of the situation, and also, the political nature of the problem, I don't worry myself with having 'faith' in a politician, because politics has historically been defined by lying to advance an agenda) I recognize both the good and the bad. The good is the positive that would result from his election, freedom from the government, and the bad, an unforeseeable, but predictable (given history) catastrophe which I cannot express, but I feel would happen, because ultimately, what Paul represents is an idolatrous and Utopian vision which excludes God from the picture.
I distrust the west. I distrust the Hellenism it bases itself upon, and if people knew as I did, they would be well advised to distrust Paul as well..... Or at least cool it with the political idolatry. People like Alex Jones - and his kin - like to fan the flames of the "american spirit" even though, in the world we live, much of what Ron Paul suggests, especially in his foreign platform, would be political suicide. It would give nations and powers currently opposed by American interests, power to consolidate; for instance, like a renewed Islamic Caliphate. A vision of many in the Islamic world - and a project of the Muslim Brotherhood and other Islamic organizations. America leaves, takes it's troops out. What's left?
So, the pacifist ideology may sound nice, but not in the inferno we live in. It's a utopian vision for the future, but not now. The world is much too hectic. If Paul makes it somewhere, It wont be to the White house, it will be 6 feet under.. I think it much more plausible that he gets assassinated and becomes a political martyr, and therefore serves his purpose in aggregating an opposition amongst his ultra-libertarian followers, and so foment a civil war - then becoming president and destroying industries - military industrial complex particularly. I see this old man as being groomed for the grave.edit on 20-12-2011 by dontreally because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by TinfoilTP
Excellent thread OP
Ron Paul's Newsletters are never going to go away and they have never been explained away. This is not old stale news, it is just as relevant as the pizza guys affairs decades ago that sidelined his campaign.
Ron Paul has never been taken seriously as a GOP candidate, which is why it has never been used for its full impact.
Huge gorilla in the closet.
The 08 Paul campaign not only took funds from White Supremicists, but refused to return the money once it was made public. A little chimp companion to scratch the back of that big gorilla.
Obama's team is salivating at the prospect of the serious GOP contenders faltering and being left to wage war with their favorite political weapon, the race card, which Ron Paul would hand them on a silver platter.
Ron Paul's Newsletters are never going to go away and they have never been explained awa
Originally posted by Rockpuck
reply to post by Tea4One
Paul is a Libertarian .. he believes in Freedom, and that includes the freedom to not like people for any personal reason. White supremacist vote for someone you know, you'll find them on all sides, even under Obama ironically because most of the White Supremacist groups are neo-socialist.
He's against affirmative action, hate crime laws and laws requiring equal treatment by force of hand .. that's to say, a business can serve whomever they please.. if they don't want to serve you because you're black, Asian, Hispanic, Gay, fugly, Russian, whatever ... that's their choice.
You can make that out to being "racist" I suppose .. but it's more about Freedom, something you wouldn't understand since you seem to think we all need laws to force us to like each other. Maybe in reality YOU are the racist, since you seem to only function in society with the comfort of laws telling you that you have to like others, not that you actually do.
Everybody knows I don’t participate in that kind of language. It’s not my lifestyle.
The important part is when you bring this up what you’re saying is ‘you’re a racist’ you’re asking ‘are you a racist’ and the answer is ‘No, no I’m not.
As a matter of fact Rosa Parks is one of my heroes, Martin Luther King, is my hero because they practice the libertarian principle of civil disobedience non violence. Libertarians are incapable of being racist because racism is a collectivist idea, you see people in groups. A civil libertarian such as myself sees everyone as an important individual. It’s not the color of their skin that’s important, as Martin Luther King said, what is important is the character of the individual.
What other candidate would stand up and say right into the camera I would pardon all blacks, all whites, everyone who’s been convicted of non-violent drug acts.
What I defend is the principal of Libertarianism where we never see people who belong to a group and every individual is defended and protected because they’re an important individual not because of the color of their skin but their character!
I am the anti-racist because I am the only candidate Republican or Democrat who’d protect the minority against these vicious drug laws.
It’s in there, it’s bad, I recognize that, I had a moral responsibility but that doesn’t mean, you know, that you can indirectly charge me as being a racist. That is what’s being done and yet I am the most ANTI-RACIST because I don’t see people in collective groups...
Rosa Parks, Martin Luther King, Gandhi - they’re the heroes of mine in practice of civil disobedience to try to get the burden of government off our backs and that’s why I’m the one that protects the individual blacks in the city who are so unfairly being treated and thrown in prison. That’s the message that needs to be heard, rather than nitpicking over something done many years ago which I did not write.’
The point is it’s not part of my character. The point is when people get charged they usually have a clip. A clips, a slip of the tongue or something and then they’re blasted to kingdom come, nobody has ever heard me say that (referencing another sander line), they know those are not my thoughts, and therefore the people have not rejected me in Texas. It’s a bit of a witch hunt... You have to look at the motivation behind this.