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posted on Dec, 20 2011 @ 09:24 PM
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I didn't state all people who follow Ron Paul were racists, I stated that white racists are likely to support Ron Paul.

Why would I state this?

Actually visit Stormfront (White Supremacist website), some strong support for Ron Paul there......
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posted on Dec, 20 2011 @ 09:25 PM
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I took my picture with a pro baseball player once, I guess that means I'm a pro baseball player.. Not... These guys sure are getting desperate, grasping at the weakest of straws..I guess that's all the detractors can come up with given Ron Paul's impeccable record.. Ah, but at least you got you title on the front page labeling Ron Paul as a racist right?



posted on Dec, 20 2011 @ 09:36 PM
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Excellent thread OP


Ron Paul's Newsletters are never going to go away and they have never been explained away. This is not old stale news, it is just as relevant as the pizza guys affairs decades ago that sidelined his campaign.
Ron Paul has never been taken seriously as a GOP candidate, which is why it has never been used for its full impact.

Huge gorilla in the closet.

The 08 Paul campaign not only took funds from White Supremicists, but refused to return the money once it was made public. A little chimp companion to scratch the back of that big gorilla.

Obama's team is salivating at the prospect of the serious GOP contenders faltering and being left to wage war with their favorite political weapon, the race card, which Ron Paul would hand them on a silver platter.



posted on Dec, 20 2011 @ 10:04 PM
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What good is comparing him to someone else if I said "In principle, I do not trust anyone in politics."...

Well, the information in this thread is a bit disconcerting.

And on a deeper, more esoteric note, I can't imagine anyone being apart of any establishment and not being privy to the mystical/metaphysical dimension of politics. The 'shadow' side as it is called.

Freemasonry has it's tentacles everywhere. And all good, upstanding men, are there to play their part. I believe, not a single important thing happens without it being engineered.

This is something so many people just cant deal with. You either know - and therefore do not discuss it with the uninitiated, or you don't know, and so are naive. That's it. That, in my opinion, is as varied a position you get. And my position, which is even more nebulous, makes it very difficult for me to explain my views.

You want to know society, know its upper strata; don't just study the present, but the past, as the present is based on the past. When you get at the core of the situation, you begin to form a picture - a fundamental outlook, of where societies intelligentsia are leading us.

The essence of the west is embodied in ancient Greek philosophy. And I don't agree with it... That's it. I disagree with the essence of modern thinking, because it bases itself primarily on ancient Greek thinking.

But -- Just because I distrust Paul and see in him a red herring, I still have hope, I still much prefer his political platform than any other politician. So even though there is contradiction in my views (and given the complexity of the situation, and also, the political nature of the problem, I don't worry myself with having 'faith' in a politician, because politics has historically been defined by lying to advance an agenda) I recognize both the good and the bad. The good is the positive that would result from his election, freedom from the government, and the bad, an unforeseeable, but predictable (given history) catastrophe which I cannot express, but I feel would happen, because ultimately, what Paul represents is an idolatrous and Utopian vision which excludes God from the picture.

I distrust the west. I distrust the Hellenism it bases itself upon, and if people knew as I did, they would be well advised to distrust Paul as well..... Or at least cool it with the political idolatry. People like Alex Jones - and his kin - like to fan the flames of the "american spirit" even though, in the world we live, much of what Ron Paul suggests, especially in his foreign platform, would be political suicide. It would give nations and powers currently opposed by American interests, power to consolidate; for instance, like a renewed Islamic Caliphate. A vision of many in the Islamic world - and a project of the Muslim Brotherhood and other Islamic organizations. America leaves, takes it's troops out. What's left?

So, the pacifist ideology may sound nice, but not in the inferno we live in. It's a utopian vision for the future, but not now. The world is much too hectic. If Paul makes it somewhere, It wont be to the White house, it will be 6 feet under.. I think it much more plausible that he gets assassinated and becomes a political martyr, and therefore serves his purpose in aggregating an opposition amongst his ultra-libertarian followers, and so foment a civil war - then becoming president and destroying industries - military industrial complex particularly. I see this old man as being groomed for the grave.
edit on 20-12-2011 by dontreally because: (no reason given)



posted on Dec, 20 2011 @ 10:16 PM
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Source

Straight from the horses mouth,



Do You Support White Supremacist Ron Paul ?

10 quotes directly from Ron Paul that make him sound incredibly racist, it’s hard to believe otherwise. Read the quotes for yourself, and see if you believe Ron Paul is a racist.

1. ‎”We don’t think a child of 13 should be held responsible as a man of 23. That’s true for most people, but black males age 13 who have been raised on the streets and who have joined criminal gangs are as big, strong, tough, scary and culpable as any adult and should be treated as such.”

2. “What else do we need to know about the political establishment than that it refuses to discuss the crimes that terrify Americans on grounds that doing so is racist? Why isn’t that true of complex embezzling, which is 100 percent white and Asian?”

3. ”Six-hundred-thousand Americans died in the senseless Civil War. No, he should not have gone to war. He did this just to enhance and get rid of the original tenet of the Republic.” -Regarding the Civil War

4. ”Given the inefficiencies of what DC laughingly calls the criminal justice system, I think we can safely assume that 95 percent of the black males in that city are semi-criminal or entirely criminal. These aren’t my figures, that is the assumption you can gather from” the report.”

5. “Contrary to the claims of the supporters of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and the sponsors of H.Res. 676, the Civil Rights Act of 1964 did not improve race relations or enhance freedom. Instead, the forced integration dictated by the Civil Rights Act of 1964 increased racial tensions while diminishing individual liberty.” -On the 40th Anniversary of the Civil Rights Act


6. “The Criminals who terrorize our cities – in riots and on every non-riot day – are not exclusively young black males, but they largely are.”

7. “I wouldn’t vote against getting rid of the Jim Crow laws.” -When asked if he would have voted for the Civil Rights Act.

8. “Opinion polls consistently show that only about 5 percent of blacks have sensible political opinions, i.e. support the free market, individual liberty and the end of welfare and affirmative action.”

9. “Immigrants can spread diseases for which we may have no immunity. There is also the question of crime and culture. Many immigrants come from countries with different legal structures and are not willing to behave in the way we expect American citizens to behave.”

10. “There is no such thing as a hate crime.”



posted on Dec, 20 2011 @ 10:17 PM
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Originally posted by dontreally
reply to post by getreadyalready
 


What good is comparing him to someone else if I said "In principle, I do not trust anyone in politics."...

Well, the information in this thread is a bit disconcerting.

And on a deeper, more esoteric note, I can't imagine anyone being apart of any establishment and not being privy to the mystical/metaphysical dimension of politics. The 'shadow' side as it is called.

Freemasonry has it's tentacles everywhere. And all good, upstanding men, are there to play their part. I believe, not a single important thing happens without it being engineered.

This is something so many people just cant deal with. You either know - and therefore do not discuss it with the uninitiated, or you don't know, and so are naive. That's it. That, in my opinion, is as varied a position you get. And my position, which is even more nebulous, makes it very difficult for me to explain my views.

You want to know society, know its upper strata; don't just study the present, but the past, as the present is based on the past. When you get at the core of the situation, you begin to form a picture - a fundamental outlook, of where societies intelligentsia are leading us.

The essence of the west is embodied in ancient Greek philosophy. And I don't agree with it... That's it. I disagree with the essence of modern thinking, because it bases itself primarily on ancient Greek thinking.

But -- Just because I distrust Paul and see in him a red herring, I still have hope, I still much prefer his political platform than any other politician. So even though there is contradiction in my views (and given the complexity of the situation, and also, the political nature of the problem, I don't worry myself with having 'faith' in a politician, because politics has historically been defined by lying to advance an agenda) I recognize both the good and the bad. The good is the positive that would result from his election, freedom from the government, and the bad, an unforeseeable, but predictable (given history) catastrophe which I cannot express, but I feel would happen, because ultimately, what Paul represents is an idolatrous and Utopian vision which excludes God from the picture.

I distrust the west. I distrust the Hellenism it bases itself upon, and if people knew as I did, they would be well advised to distrust Paul as well..... Or at least cool it with the political idolatry. People like Alex Jones - and his kin - like to fan the flames of the "american spirit" even though, in the world we live, much of what Ron Paul suggests, especially in his foreign platform, would be political suicide. It would give nations and powers currently opposed by American interests, power to consolidate; for instance, like a renewed Islamic Caliphate. A vision of many in the Islamic world - and a project of the Muslim Brotherhood and other Islamic organizations. America leaves, takes it's troops out. What's left?

So, the pacifist ideology may sound nice, but not in the inferno we live in. It's a utopian vision for the future, but not now. The world is much too hectic. If Paul makes it somewhere, It wont be to the White house, it will be 6 feet under.. I think it much more plausible that he gets assassinated and becomes a political martyr, and therefore serves his purpose in aggregating an opposition amongst his ultra-libertarian followers, and so foment a civil war - then becoming president and destroying industries - military industrial complex particularly. I see this old man as being groomed for the grave.
edit on 20-12-2011 by dontreally because: (no reason given)


Very nice post. Although I'd like you to be wrong about the grave part.

I ,know we disagree on some things but you always put work into your posts and thats a good thing and something I could learn from instead of my 1 or 2 line replies.



posted on Dec, 20 2011 @ 10:20 PM
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lol, just because it was published by him, does not mean he wrote it. get your facts straight.



posted on Dec, 20 2011 @ 10:33 PM
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wow the attacks on ron paul are in full force today, i think a lot of elites got their asses kicked last night by their jewish overlord.. lol. desperate acts by desperate people

ron paul FOR THE WIN



posted on Dec, 20 2011 @ 10:39 PM
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Ron Paul never wrote those racist newsletters in Question in fact those newsletters were also used against Paul back in 1996 while he was running for congress.

Ron Paul is the only one standing up for the minority rights.

Here take a look at this thread OP


Ron Paul With an African Women Lady


Sadly these types of attacks dont work thread OP.
edit on 20-12-2011 by Agent_USA_Supporter because: (no reason given)



posted on Dec, 20 2011 @ 10:48 PM
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Originally posted by TinfoilTP
Excellent thread OP


Ron Paul's Newsletters are never going to go away and they have never been explained away. This is not old stale news, it is just as relevant as the pizza guys affairs decades ago that sidelined his campaign.
Ron Paul has never been taken seriously as a GOP candidate, which is why it has never been used for its full impact.

Huge gorilla in the closet.

The 08 Paul campaign not only took funds from White Supremicists, but refused to return the money once it was made public. A little chimp companion to scratch the back of that big gorilla.

Obama's team is salivating at the prospect of the serious GOP contenders faltering and being left to wage war with their favorite political weapon, the race card, which Ron Paul would hand them on a silver platter.






Ron Paul's Newsletters are never going to go away and they have never been explained awa

Ron Paul Answers the Charges of Racist Newsletters
Ron Paul Isnt Racist


My goodness today the attacks are in attack mode.



posted on Dec, 20 2011 @ 10:49 PM
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A small Congressional District in the heart of Texas looked the other way.......that is the only fact you can express about these truths.

The potus is not decided by a redneck district, and Canadian opinions are even less important.

The poetic justice here is that if Ron Paul were to be the only candidate vs Obama, all of his white supremacist supporters would be helping Obama win another term.



posted on Dec, 20 2011 @ 10:54 PM
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Well if we are to cover who's taking pictures with who, what about JON CORZINE (the guy who stole 3 billion from his clients and former head of Goldman Sachs) who not only took a picture with Obama, but was Obama's TOP ECONOMIC ADVISER. And let's not mention the other dozen, if not hundred, of weird/globalist scum who took pictures with Obama and are friends with Obama.

Sorry but Obama went to BILDERBERG... Obama has appointed CLINTON and Geithner in his administration, put MPAA/RIAA people in his administration, put MONSANTO people at the FDA, reappointed Bernanke... etc...

If we want to REALLY look at associations, sorry but Obama has been way closer to scum in the short period he's been in politics than Ron Paul ever was in his 40 years in government.

An honest person ain't friend with the likes of Clinton, Pelosi, Reid, Bernanke, Geithner, Corzine, Kissinger. If you don't know someone, judge him by who he is hanging with. And Obama from day one was hanging with scum, so I knew he was a POS even before he opened his mouth.
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posted on Dec, 20 2011 @ 11:08 PM
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I've taken a picture with gay people before, does that make me automatically gay?




Ron Paul comes down on a portion of the civil rights act where the federal government tries to control business owners and how they conduct their business.


Ron Paul has been fighting for decades to end the war on drugs (where the black community is one of its largest victims). Ron has praised MLK throughout the years...

Why would a racist praise MLK? Why?



Ron is a strict advocate for INDIVIDUALISM. RACISM is a COLLECTIVIST act.
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posted on Dec, 20 2011 @ 11:10 PM
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You're claiming he wrote all 10 of those points.

Now it is your job to PROVE those claims.

Ready...

Set...

Go!

We're waiting.



posted on Dec, 20 2011 @ 11:22 PM
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“Those Who Address Race the Most, Are Usually the Most Racist”

-Propulsion

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posted on Dec, 20 2011 @ 11:41 PM
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He is NOT racist. In fact, it's the other way around. Because Ron is white he is being attacked openly. Racism against whites is rampant in the US.



posted on Dec, 21 2011 @ 12:15 AM
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Originally posted by Rockpuck
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Paul is a Libertarian .. he believes in Freedom, and that includes the freedom to not like people for any personal reason. White supremacist vote for someone you know, you'll find them on all sides, even under Obama ironically because most of the White Supremacist groups are neo-socialist.

He's against affirmative action, hate crime laws and laws requiring equal treatment by force of hand .. that's to say, a business can serve whomever they please.. if they don't want to serve you because you're black, Asian, Hispanic, Gay, fugly, Russian, whatever ... that's their choice.

You can make that out to being "racist" I suppose .. but it's more about Freedom, something you wouldn't understand since you seem to think we all need laws to force us to like each other. Maybe in reality YOU are the racist, since you seem to only function in society with the comfort of laws telling you that you have to like others, not that you actually do.


This has got to be the most beautiful reply I have ever read in all my years of ATS. Rockpuck your my hero.



posted on Dec, 21 2011 @ 12:24 AM
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I thought this "Ron Paul is a racist" crap would die off.

A coordinator lives a life that sometimes go unchecked by higher ups. Just because people "worked for" Ron Paul doesn't make him a KKK member. Ron Paul has always had grassroots help. You can't know or watch everyone who is volunteering for you.

And as far as the photo with founder of Stormfront, so what? I be a serial killer and jump in a photo with Mother Teresa, does that make her a serial killer too? Is it like, hey if I'm bad and I take a photo with you, you're infected with my personality?



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posted on Dec, 21 2011 @ 01:18 AM
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Between your video and the one I'm about to post? If people want to take the time to hear the truth - here it is.

Those who want to go on with their smear campaigns will do so of course, but hey - Dr. Ron Paul's a big man and he can take it. We know Dr. Paul is a man in integrity and no slander mongers are going to change that.



ALL QUOTES BELOW TAKEN FROM DR. RON PAUL IN ABOVE VIDEO



Everybody knows I don’t participate in that kind of language. It’s not my lifestyle.



The important part is when you bring this up what you’re saying is ‘you’re a racist’ you’re asking ‘are you a racist’ and the answer is ‘No, no I’m not.

As a matter of fact Rosa Parks is one of my heroes, Martin Luther King, is my hero because they practice the libertarian principle of civil disobedience non violence. Libertarians are incapable of being racist because racism is a collectivist idea, you see people in groups. A civil libertarian such as myself sees everyone as an important individual. It’s not the color of their skin that’s important, as Martin Luther King said, what is important is the character of the individual.

He also brings up - as now is the same today - when he starts getting more of the vote ‘they‘ have to undermine him. Enough said. But Dr. Paul isn’t through.


What other candidate would stand up and say right into the camera I would pardon all blacks, all whites, everyone who’s been convicted of non-violent drug acts.

Dr. Paul, in fact is fighting against the discrimination of the judicial system. Take a listen, it’s all there.


What I defend is the principal of Libertarianism where we never see people who belong to a group and every individual is defended and protected because they’re an important individual not because of the color of their skin but their character!

APPLAUSE!!!


I am the anti-racist because I am the only candidate Republican or Democrat who’d protect the minority against these vicious drug laws.

About the newsletters?


It’s in there, it’s bad, I recognize that, I had a moral responsibility but that doesn’t mean, you know, that you can indirectly charge me as being a racist. That is what’s being done and yet I am the most ANTI-RACIST because I don’t see people in collective groups...

Rosa Parks, Martin Luther King, Gandhi - they’re the heroes of mine in practice of civil disobedience to try to get the burden of government off our backs and that’s why I’m the one that protects the individual blacks in the city who are so unfairly being treated and thrown in prison. That’s the message that needs to be heard, rather than nitpicking over something done many years ago which I did not write.



The point is it’s not part of my character. The point is when people get charged they usually have a clip. A clips, a slip of the tongue or something and then they’re blasted to kingdom come, nobody has ever heard me say that (referencing another sander line), they know those are not my thoughts, and therefore the people have not rejected me in Texas. It’s a bit of a witch hunt... You have to look at the motivation behind this.


DR. RON PAUL FOR PRESIDENT




posted on Dec, 21 2011 @ 01:42 AM
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Some would say Paul is crazy. To them I would say: "Soooo Racking up 15+ Trillion in debt & collapsing the economy is........Normal???"

The phenomenon of Ron Paul is, he'll give it to you straight. He's not worried about losing votes. He's more interested in telling you the truth.
"Tricks and treachery are the practice of fools, that don't have brains enough to be honest."
-Benjamin Franklin



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