Students Peppersprayed by Police for Fighting At School, page 1

reply to post by navy_vet_stg3

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Thank you for your consideration iwas not saying it was unjustified i just wanted to know what people would think and there was easily 75 to 100 students watching this so yeah the cops were probaly needed

reply to post by DarwinianLaw

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me nither man i would never obstruct law as an aspiring police officer myself. i wonder have any of you heard of devils blood it is pure capsium extract hottest thing on earth you think they could use that for riots or would that be to um hurtful?

reply to post by Wildbob77

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personaly id like to see tazers or night sticks just for the fun of it it would amuse me

Originally posted by The Arbiter of Lies
reply to post by DarwinianLaw

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me nither man i would never obstruct law as an aspiring police officer myself. i wonder have any of you heard of devils blood it is pure capsium extract hottest thing on earth you think they could use that for riots or would that be to um hurtful?

edit on 20-12-2011 by The Arbiter of Lies because: (no reason given)

-- that sounds nasty. I think the pepper tools they have now are good enough for large riots, I do kow they have higher concentrations available for mass use - but pure capsicum oil would not do any one any good....

reply to post by The Arbiter of Lies

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I just don't know what has happened to judgement, discretion and basic old fashioned common sense. Cops used to have it. Even in some of the most violent cities America has to offer a Police Officer, this kind of overkill and rush to a chemical agent or taser is something rather new. In Canada though? Jeeze.... You members in Canada are just dashing my whole fantasy image of a final refuge of sanity to the North when the last shreds of sense vanish down here.


I guess it just runs totally outside the bounds of rational thought for a modern cop to LET PEOPLE SETTLE something when it's bare knuckles right? I'd say the cops themselves probably had a few knock down, drag out fights growing up...but sadly, that probably isn't true and THAT is the problem. Canada is apparently little better than we are about recruiting college kids and academic types to POLICE WORK of all things.

I suppose when you have a couple college kids that KNOW the crowd of high schoolers could kick their tails up and down the street before really getting angry about things.....this kind of total overkill is ALL they have. What happened to recruiting vets and other types for Police work who actually ARE capable of putting someone in a come along hold or an old fashioned arm lock rather than soaking them in a chemical weapon. BOOOOO on the cops for this one.

reply to post by Wrabbit2000

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LET PEOPLE SETTLE something when it's bare knuckles right? I'd say the cops themselves probably had a few knock down, drag out fights growing up...

Frivolous lawsuits and molly-coddling parents happened. Two kids get in a fight, and instead of blaming the two kids, they blame the school, the cops, the music, the other parents, or whatever else they can blame. These days it is too economically dangerous for a cop or a school to use any common sense. Instead, they have to protect themselves from lawsuits by over-reacting to the slightest threats.

reply to post by getreadyalready

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I suppose you have a good point on that. If your line of reasoning holds for the responses we see vs, how things were handled in the not so distant past, then I guess it's even fair to say people have made their own bed with much of the abuse it's leading to.

reply to post by Wrabbit2000

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I just don't know what has happened to judgement, discretion and basic old fashioned common sense. Cops used to have it. Even in some of the most violent cities America has to offer a Police Officer, this kind of overkill and rush to a chemical agent or taser is something rather new. In Canada though? Jeeze.... You members in Canada are just dashing my whole fantasy image of a final refuge of sanity to the North when the last shreds of sense vanish down here.

What? Are you serious? Common sense? You seem to be the last person to dictate common sense in this case. Judgement, discretion and common sense would dictate breaking up the fight.

I guess it just runs totally outside the bounds of rational thought for a modern cop to LET PEOPLE SETTLE something when it's bare knuckles right?

YES! Of course it does. Especially when the police are present. The police are not paid referees. The police are paid to enforce the law, protect persons and property and protect the public peace.

Lets say, for a moment, the police arrived and your form of common sense prevailed. They allowed the kids to fight while they watched and one of the kids ended up injured, seriously injured or dead? What do you think the child's parents would have wanted the police to do? Probably break up the fight.

I'd say the cops themselves probably had a few knock down, drag out fights growing up...but sadly, that probably isn't true and THAT is the problem.

What are you trying to say with this comment? Are you trying to say that the police, as children, probably were involved in a few fights themselves? Or are you trying to say that the police, as children, were never involved in a fight? I dont undestand what you are trying to say here.

Canada is apparently little better than we are about recruiting college kids and academic types to POLICE WORK of all things.

Again, what does this have to do with anything?

I suppose when you have a couple college kids that KNOW the crowd of high schoolers could kick their tails up and down the street before really getting angry about things.....this kind of total overkill is ALL they have.

How do you have any idea of the educational background of the police officers? You assume they are college educated because they used pepper spray? Pepper spray is an excellent choice in this situation. It immediately gets their attention, stops the fight, and hurts like hell for about 40 minutes to an hour without any lasting injury.

What happened to recruiting vets and other types for Police work who actually ARE capable of putting someone in a come along hold or an old fashioned arm lock rather than soaking them in a chemical weapon.

You are a strange bird.

Please. Chemical weapon? They didnt douse them with mustard gas. They were pepper sprayed. In what situation should a police officer use pepper spray if not in a situation like this?

Most who bash the police argue that recruiting veterans and "other types" is a major problem for police departments because of their alleged "predisposition towards violence." You, on the other hand, argue that veterans and "other types" should be recruited over college graduates because they know how to handle themselves in a fight.

I think you should stop being ridiculous and over-critical whenever you are commenting on what the police do. The line between clear excessive force and a police officer doing his or her job has been blurred because of people, like you, who are over-critical in situations like this.

Boo on you for that.

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