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WTF is SOPA? The American government trying to ruin the internet

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posted on Dec, 20 2011 @ 09:13 AM
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If you don't understand what SOPA and Protect IP bills are, this explains it... done by a UK Law graduate.

Real great video.

The bill is being pushed by the MPAA...
MPAA head Chris Dodd : for the internet censorship bill, China is our model

And scum like Reid :
Sen. Reid pushes Web censorship bill; foe promises filibuster

And former senator Chris Dodd :
Chris Dodd Resorting To Outright Lying In A Desperate Attempt To Get SOPA Passed

Being pushed in the house on wednesday :
House of Representatives Schedule

Wednesday, December 21, 2011
Markup: H.R. 3261, the Stop Online Piracy Act

9:00 AM | 2141 Rayburn HOB
Host: Committee on the Judiciary | Full Committee


Even Google founder says it will kill the internet :
Google Founder Attacks Piracy Bill Set for House Panel Vote

Old men voting on stuff they don't understand at all... brilliant. I mean, arresting anyone IN THE WORLD without any DUE PROCESS OR PROOF wasn't enough for them when they passed the NDAA bill, now they want to control the ENTIRE INTERNET too.

Congress is run bye MEGALOMANIACS. Definition of a megalomaniac :

Megalomania is a psycho-pathological condition characterized by delusional fantasies of power, relevance, or omnipotence. 'Megalomania is characterized by an inflated sense of self-esteem and overestimation by persons of their powers and beliefs'.

That's exactly how the US government think of themselves.

At least the Swiss government gets it :
Swiss Government Declares Downloading for Personal Use Legal
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posted on Dec, 20 2011 @ 09:21 AM
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It will kill the internet as we know it today. It will replace it with something akin to "compuserv" from way back in the 90s. It's the first step towards a fascist dictatorship over the GLOBAL internet. Basically all networking technology will have to be reworked to allow the government to sniff every single packet at the behest of copyright groups.

but of course, it won't stop there.

Say I live next door to you. I call the police and say you stole my lawn mower. I have no proof of this, so it probably goes no where, or goes to small claims court where I have to prove you stole my mower, and if I can't, case closed.

Now say I'm a copyright lobbyist and I contact your isp/police claiming you pirated a movie.

What happens? Under sopa, you are guilty. And enough claims against you, even groundless ones, you can be shut out of the internet or even worse.

SOPA + "fighting child pornography" give the US government full license to completely dismantle the internet whilst spying on every single one of us. Of course, they are already doing this illegally, this just gives them a valid "reason" in their eyes to actually come out and start containing the internet into a little box they can agree with.

Short of cutting the trunk fibre lines under the ocean, if this passes we are all screwed.



posted on Dec, 20 2011 @ 09:27 AM
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Yep. What they could also do is take down websites like ATS... take a few feds, register to ATS, post illegal stuff, boom, they take down ATS.



posted on Dec, 20 2011 @ 09:30 AM
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Originally posted by phishyblankwaters
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It will kill the internet as we know it today. It will replace it with something akin to "compuserv" from way back in the 90s. It's the first step towards a fascist dictatorship over the GLOBAL internet. Basically all networking technology will have to be reworked to allow the government to sniff every single packet at the behest of copyright groups.

but of course, it won't stop there.

Say I live next door to you. I call the police and say you stole my lawn mower. I have no proof of this, so it probably goes no where, or goes to small claims court where I have to prove you stole my mower, and if I can't, case closed.

Now say I'm a copyright lobbyist and I contact your isp/police claiming you pirated a movie.

What happens? Under sopa, you are guilty. And enough claims against you, even groundless ones, you can be shut out of the internet or even worse.

SOPA + "fighting child pornography" give the US government full license to completely dismantle the internet whilst spying on every single one of us. Of course, they are already doing this illegally, this just gives them a valid "reason" in their eyes to actually come out and start containing the internet into a little box they can agree with.

Short of cutting the trunk fibre lines under the ocean, if this passes we are all screwed.


You folks that like to "download free" (read steal) music, movies, vids and copyrighted data from the internet have given just cause for such laws. True, they go far beyond what is needed to control your illegal activities, but the internet gave you an inch to steal, and they will go a mile to stop you. It is as simple as that.



posted on Dec, 20 2011 @ 09:40 AM
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Originally posted by Aliensun
You folks that like to "download free" (read steal) music, movies, vids and copyrighted data from the internet have given just cause for such laws. True, they go far beyond what is needed to control your illegal activities, but the internet gave you an inch to steal, and they will go a mile to stop you. It is as simple as that.


I never understood how it is considered stealing. Nothing has been taken from the owner of the material. The material still exists exactly where it was. I mean, how is making a digital copy of a MP3 any differant than taking a photo of a painting? We sure as hell don't call it stealing then.

Now, if someone were to take that digital photo of the painting and start making prints and selling them, that would be a violation of fair use, for certain. But Free Downloads implies not selling.


This is just a power play from a market that got their strategy wrong and is overreacting in their vain attempts to accomodate.
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posted on Dec, 20 2011 @ 09:42 AM
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Yeah keep shilling for the fascists who want to take over all the internet and censor anything that doesn't go with their business model so they can have total control over everything.

The ``lost sales`` attributed to piracy are way overblown which has been shown again and again.

And you can know if a bill is bad just by looking at who supports it... the MPAA, Reid, whatever these guys support, you know it's bad.
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posted on Dec, 20 2011 @ 09:50 AM
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Thats like saying "those of you who steal, look what you've done now! They are now shooting anyone caught stealing anything and its all your fault!' This is the governments fault. These are power hungry ppl that won't stop at anything to control every faucet of our lives. No matter the cost to anyone.Number 1, there are way too few laws that ever make it in the hands of the people to vote on.I believe that before any bill becomes a law, it should go through the senate and congress, then to the people, and only then to the president.But that will never happen.
Number 2, people need to take a more active roll in understanding just what is going on with our government(ATS is a good start)
Number 3 we need to push the lawmakers back to their proper place, not as demigods as they seem to think, but as lawmakers doing the will of the people.
Number 4 all pacs and special interest groups need to be totally banned from having 'any' influence on our lawmakers. but since they make the laws and are getting paid off by them, that will never happen.



posted on Dec, 20 2011 @ 10:34 AM
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This video has gone mega viral, 1.3 million views in two days on one site


Just passed on to some freinds at work.



posted on Dec, 20 2011 @ 10:36 AM
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Fighting child porn? Fighting copyright?

To use the analogy, if a safety deposit box in a bank contains illegal material the government will be able to shut down the whole bank and all its branches. That my freind is tyranny, period.



posted on Dec, 20 2011 @ 10:45 AM
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Originally posted by TheMindWar
This video has gone mega viral, 1.3 million views in two days on one site


Just passed on to some freinds at work.


It's by "TotalBiscuit" what do you expect.
He's a Machinima superstar.
The subject maters to him
and now to his fans.

/nod
David Grouchy



posted on Dec, 20 2011 @ 11:05 AM
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This bill will single-handedly remove freedom on the Internet. Don't like a website? Post a link to The Piratebay or some other file sharing website, and the government will be forced to shut it down.

Personally, I will spam every single website with file sharing links if that bill passes. And that includes Facebook and every other site that allows commenting or posting.



posted on Dec, 20 2011 @ 11:10 AM
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Originally posted by MrXYZ
This bill will single-handedly remove freedom on the Internet. Don't like a website? Post a link to The Piratebay or some other file sharing website, and the government will be forced to shut it down.

Personally, I will spam every single website with file sharing links if that bill passes. And that includes Facebook and every other site that allows commenting or posting.


Indeed. Overwhelm them and the bureaucracy will grind to a halt.



posted on Dec, 20 2011 @ 11:23 AM
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Originally posted by rogerstigers

Originally posted by MrXYZ
This bill will single-handedly remove freedom on the Internet. Don't like a website? Post a link to The Piratebay or some other file sharing website, and the government will be forced to shut it down.

Personally, I will spam every single website with file sharing links if that bill passes. And that includes Facebook and every other site that allows commenting or posting.


Indeed. Overwhelm them and the bureaucracy will grind to a halt.


The funny thing is, if I do it from Switzerland, they can't even legally prosecute me for doing so


Can't wait to shut down Facebook and post a link to pirated porn on Google's help site.


The bureaucratic cost of all this will be completely off the charts. Who's going to check all those sites? Who can stop anyone from posting thousands of links to shut down competitor sites???


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