Police 'need riot tactic rules' watchdog says

Originally posted by Kram09
Force isn't going to solve anything.

Are they actually bothering to look to the root causes of these riots to try and ensure they won't happen again or are they just going to use over the top force?

I don't know about any other members from the UK but would you really like to see our country hit headlines around the world for opening fire on rioters (or potentially protesters) with live ammunition? Do we really want to sink to the levels of Syria, China or North Korea etc?

It's quite hypocritical for our government to slam the Arab governments who were attempting to supress the spring uprisings with force. Granted those people were protesting for the rights and freedoms which we gratefully enjoy here.......or do we?

As Martin Luther King Jr. said, "A riot is the language of the unheard."

edit on 20/12/11 by Kram09 because: typos

Welcome to the NWO.
Where the slaves think they are free but they are not.
I live in the UK, and watch the TAVISTOCK INSTITUTE very closey.

Noticed on the 'Sky News' report that they mention non lethal methods and rubber bullets.

However the policing minister mentions that lethal force can be used. Sky skipped that bit and went back on to rubber bullets and water cannon.

Policing Minister Nick Herbert said the report was simply stating the existing law in relation to the use of lethal force by the police.

"It has always been the case, and should remain the case, that the police can act - including when absolutely necessary, either in self defence or in the defence of others, against the threat of death or serious injury - with the use of lethal force," he told the Commons Home Affairs Committee.

Originally posted by PhoenixOD
Say they do allow rubber bullets or live rounds in bad riots. The next thing you will hear is that police are turning up armed at protests in case things turn bad but by then no one will be able to complain.

Who's "they".

Rubber bullets are a reality in Northern Ireland and arguably if they were deployed in the recent criminality the results would have been that may of the tossers who were looting and firebombing would have stayed at home.

Live rounds. Give it a rest, although as some of the tossers were waving guns about the police would have been within their rights to deployed armed officers.

This whole debate is about ensuring the police have the right equipment and approach to deal with mob violence.

This is not the downward slope. It is the police waking up. During the riots they did not "protect the people" - they stood by while the mob firebombed property and threatened normal people.

Regards

reply to post by gravitor

Thats why the riots were allowed, if not organised to occur, to then justify the introduction of ever more force. Cause....reaction....solution.

Thats a good point gravitor, its was very strange the way they just didnt engage the rioters until the next day.