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The White House on Monday defended Vice President Joe Biden for saying that the Taliban isn't an enemy of the United States despite the years spent fighting the militant Islamic group that gave a home to Al Qaeda and its leader Usama bin Laden while he plotted the Sept. 11 terror attacks.
"It is a simple fact that we went into Afghanistan because of the attack on the United States on Sept. 11, 2001. We are there now to ultimately defeat Al Qaeda, to stabilize Afghanistan and stabilize it in part so that Al Qaeda or other terrorists who have as their aim attacks on the United States cannot establish a foothold again in that country," Carney continued.
SEC. 1034. AFFIRMATION OF ARMED CONFLICT WITH
AL-QAEDA, THE TALIBAN, AND ASSOCIATED FORCES.
Congress affirms that—
the United States is engaged in an armed
conflict with al-Qaeda, the Taliban, and associated
forces and that those entities continue to pose a threat
to the United States and its citizens, both domestically and abroad;
Oh good, I was waiting for someone to create a thread, I just read that, I am sickened right now, they said these people are responsible for 9/11, now they are not our enemy, I want to cry it's so disgusting, wtf!.
Originally posted by hapablab
Oh good, I was waiting for someone to create a thread, I just read that, I am sickened right now, they said these people are responsible for 9/11, now they are not our enemy, I want to cry it's so disgusting, wtf!.
Originally posted by definity
Taliban dont exist, they disbanded around 1996... the only threat now is al-quieda
Originally posted by The Old American
This is great news! Now we can pack up our soldiers and have them all home by Summer, right? Right? Guys, are you there? Why do I hear crickets?
/TOA
Originally posted by SLAYER69
OBL is dead [However/whenever he was killed] and The Taliban are no longer in power. I've said this before and it went over like a fart in Church. The US should just declare victory and pull out. Both of those two objectives have been accomplished.
Bring our boys home.
Originally posted by definity
Taliban dont exist, they disbanded around 1996... the only threat now is al-quieda
Originally posted by Vitchilo
White House Stands by Biden Statement That Taliban Isn't U.S. Enemy
The White House on Monday defended Vice President Joe Biden for saying that the Taliban isn't an enemy of the United States despite the years spent fighting the militant Islamic group that gave a home to Al Qaeda and its leader Usama bin Laden while he plotted the Sept. 11 terror attacks.
"It is a simple fact that we went into Afghanistan because of the attack on the United States on Sept. 11, 2001. We are there now to ultimately defeat Al Qaeda, to stabilize Afghanistan and stabilize it in part so that Al Qaeda or other terrorists who have as their aim attacks on the United States cannot establish a foothold again in that country," Carney continued.
Yeah Al-CIAda is the enemy... Try looking in Virgina at CIA headquarters.
The Guardian (London)
Wednesday, November 7, 2001
Officials told to 'back off' on Saudis before September 11
by Greg Palast and David Pallister
“FBI and military intelligence officials in Washington say they were prevented for political reasons from carrying out full investigations into members of the Bin Laden family in the US before the terrorist attacks of September 11.”
“US intelligence agencies have come under criticism for their wholesale failure to predict the catastrophe at the World Trade Centre. But some are complaining that their hands were tied.”
…
“But the FBI files were closed in 1996 apparently before any conclusions could be reached on either the Bin Laden brothers or the organisation itself. High-placed intelligence sources in Washington told the Guardian this week: "There were always constraints on investigating the Saudis".”
“They said the restrictions became worse after the Bush administration took over this year. The intelligence agencies had been told to "back off" from investigations involving other members of the Bin Laden family, the Saudi royals, and possible Saudi links to the acquisition of nuclear weapons by Pakistan.”
Paul Sperry: They include onetime Caspian energy industry lobbyist Zalmay Khalilzad, Bush's broker for regime change in Kabul and now Baghdad; Dick Cheney, whose Halliburton Co. has long been a player in both the Caspian and in Iraq; Condi Rice, longtime director of ChevronTexaco, the Caspian's biggest investor and also a player now in Iraq; Deputy Secretary of State Rich Armitage, formerly a powerful Caspian lobbyist in Washington; commerce secretary Don Evans, whose former oil firm is partly owned by Unocal, the original lead investor in the trans-Afghan pipelines that Khalilzad lobbied for and which are now on the fast track to development...the rest of the cronies are listed in the "Players & Power Brokers" section in the front of Crude Politics. Many of them were among the principals who crafted the post-9/11 war strategy.
Originally posted by Blackmarketeer
The Taliban have always been welcome in the White House, here Reagan is meeting with them;
Originally posted by Blackmarketeer
The chief member in that delegation is Mullah Omar, or Mohammad Omar, and the defacto leader of the Taliban from 1996 to 2001 when he went into hiding;
Mohammed Omar Wikipedia
All the negotiating, money, and deal-making between him and Reagan/Bush or the USA, was in fact with the Taliban, even if they didn't officially adopt that moniker.
Following the Soviet withdrawal from Afghanistan in 1989 and the collapse of Najibullah's Soviet-backed regime in 1992, the country fell into chaos as various mujahideen factions fought for control. Omar returned to Singesar and founded a madrassah.
in 1994 he had a dream in which a woman told him: "We need your help; you must rise. You must end the chaos. God will help you."Mullah Omar started his movement with less than 50 armed madrassah students, known simply as the Taliban (Students). His recruits came from madrassahs in Afghanistan and from the Afghan refugee camps across the border in Pakistan. They fought against the rampant corruption that had emerged in the civil war period and were initially welcomed by Afghans weary of warlord rule. Reportedly, in early 1994, Omar led 30 men armed with 16 rifles to free youths who had been kidnapped and raped by a warlord, hanging the local commander from a tank gun barrel....
His movement gained momentum through the year, and he quickly gathered recruits from Islamic schools. By November 1994, Omar's movement managed to capture the whole of Kandahar Province and then captured Herat in September 1995.
Originally posted by Britguy
Originally posted by SLAYER69
OBL is dead [However/whenever he was killed] and The Taliban are no longer in power. I've said this before and it went over like a fart in Church. The US should just declare victory and pull out. Both of those two objectives have been accomplished.
Bring our boys home.
You are overlooking the whole reason for attacking the Taliban in the first place, namely the proposed oil and gas pipelines across Afghanistan and the Taliban's near removal of the opium trade.
The US government and the UNOCAL consortium tried stiffing the Taliban on transport tariffs and the Taliban told them to go poke their pipelines where the sun don't shine. I seem to remember the Taliban representatives even being hosted for dinner at the residence of the governor of Texas (Guess who!) on a visit to the US for pipeline talks. So much sucking up and those ungrateful goat herders didn't roll over.
So, the US had good reason to want the Taliban removed from power, and the whole manufactured 9/11 event gave them the green light to go in and remove them. Unfortunately, having installed the UNOCAL / Taliban go-between in power, he soon realised what a precarious position he was in, with attacks likely from both sides if he did or said the wrong thing. Oh, what a tangled web, and all that!
The US and it's NATO boot lickers are not gonna be leaving any time soon, now that the opium trade is booming again and those pipelines need built.