Where Is The Universe? The Answer Could Change Your Life!

Had this sent to me by a friend today, very interesting article in Psychology Today by Robert Lanza (titled the same as this post)

www.psychologytoday.com...

The main point of the article is about how we perceive reality to be external when in fact it could all be internal. Here's a quote:

"modern knowledge of the brain shows that what appears "out there" is actually occurring within our own minds, with visual and tactile experiences located not in some external disconnected location distant from ourselves. Looking around, we see only our own mind or, perhaps, it's better put that there's no true disconnect between external and internal."

Interesting idea. If it is true, it can explain why the world is the way it is and that we need to stop looking for external answers to our problems and start answering some internal ones.

Much Peace!

Life is what you make it.

Second line.

Very interesting read.

Thanks for posting!

reply to post by kimish


Agree 100%!

reply to post by wrdwzrd
I suppose this ties in with the ideas that "all is one", the so called "vibrations" described in both quantum physics and Eastern religion, that "God" is within us all, the Schrodinger's cat paradox, observation, tree in forest and nobody is around to hear it, mind over matter, etc.

Very interesting article.

To our external senses, it appears we are separate from each other, the earth and the universe. Go beyond the sensations, by way of the mind or silence thereof, and know that everything is one.

reply to post by wrdwzrd

The "outside world" is, therefore, located within the mind. Of course, it's possible to over-think the issue and come up with attempted refutations. "Yeah, but what about someone born blind?" "And what about touch; if things aren't out there, how can we feel them?" None of that changes the reality: touch, too, occurs only within consciousness or the mind.

Just because our entire perception of reality is happening from within inside our pitch dark skull, doesn't mean reality only exists inside our mind.

Of course we can't prove that anything really exists outside of our own mind, but that doesn't mean it isn't there. Maybe it is, maybe it isn't.

This is nothing but a glorified version of the simple question, "If a tree falls in the forest and no one is around to hear it, does it make a sound?"

This article implies that there is no such thing as objective truth, and that the only truth is that which you yourself perceive to be true. That is impossible and easily disproven. As a matter of fact, this idea of a "subjective world, with no objective parts" is the very beginning and foundation of quite a few mental disorders.

Its true that we do not all perceive the world the same as far as details are concerned, but there are objective truths. such as: gravity, hot, cold, light, dark, soft, hard. These are things that every person you speak with will agree on and be affected by. If two people are standing outside in the sun and they both can see, they are obviously going to agree that it is light out. Only an insane person would say it was dark.

Originally posted by ChaoticOrder
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The "outside world" is, therefore, located within the mind. Of course, it's possible to over-think the issue and come up with attempted refutations. "Yeah, but what about someone born blind?" "And what about touch; if things aren't out there, how can we feel them?" None of that changes the reality: touch, too, occurs only within consciousness or the mind.

Just because our entire perception of reality is happening from within inside our pitch dark skull, doesn't mean reality only exists inside our mind.

Of course we can't prove that anything really exists outside of our own mind, but that doesn't mean it isn't there. Maybe it is, maybe it isn't.

Its easily proven.

Stick a hot poker in a fire, take it out and poke someone with it. I'm sure you will both agree the hot poker exists outside your mind.

Does this mean we really are part of the Matrix?

Chris.

but how would we then explain those who can grasp that hot poker and not get burnt?

Originally posted by wrdwzrd
but how would we then explain those who can grasp that hot poker and not get burnt?

Simple.

They're touching the cool end of it.

reply to post by dbloch7986


Pain is also something that we perceive internally. There is no possible way for you to prove anything external to you actually exists outside of you, because your entire perception of reality is generated within your mind. Everything. All the things you can 'sense' are computed by your brain - tastes, smells, sounds, sights and physical feelings - are signals firing in your brain.

This concept can be compared to dreams where it seems so real but you don't even know that you are dreaming. It's possible to have very vivid sensations in these sorts of dreams, including tastes and smells. Of course nothing in the dream world actually exists, it's simply an imaginary construct generated by your mind. An entirely fake world, yet it can be hard to tell the difference between some dreams and so called 'reality'.

lol i suppose people in africa wanna continue to get tortured and raped. and i suppose people see themselves living it up by starving and dying everyday ? the world isn't just what you make of it, unfortunately the world is what others make it to be as well.

All the Universe that all the individual consciousnes' verify exists in the ever kinetic underworld as space in its pure infinitesimal duration state which is the "present", that is the infinite expanse, imploding from everywhere, toward everywhere in the process of converting back into infinite kinetic state as pure time. Only it will be as all the past. It's where you and I are. The "underworld" as infinite space in converting back into pure kinetic that is infinite time, flooding spherically down and inward toward the ONE infinitely kinetic, infinitesimal singularity... the cause of all this, the destination of all this.

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Hmmm, more like...

reply to post by dbloch7986


hahaha! nice, great answer!

Thats why i prescribe to Representative Realism-

" the philosophical position that our conscious experience is not of the real world itself but of an internal representation, a miniature virtual-reality replica of the world. Indirect realism is broadly equivalent to the accepted view of perception in natural science that states that we do not and can not perceive the external world as it really is but know only our ideas and interpretations of the way the world is"

everything we experience is actually going on in our head, even if it is a representation of the external world.

this is the reasoning behind the old proverb/adage, if a tree falls in the woods, and nobody is around to here it, does it make a sound?

the answer is no.

the SOUND is in your head. it is your ears and brains representation of a vibration. the tree makes the vibration. but the actual sound is in your head!

reply to post by ChaoticOrder


Actually its very easy to demonstrate something that exists outside of you. Simply by gauging other people's reactions to it. Also, in dreams the laws of physics are loosely interpreted and sensation is dulled. As well as dreams do not leave a lasting physical impression on your body.

If your ability to objectively perceive reality is so impaired that you cannot separate it from a dream then you have a lot more issues than you realize. I have never once had a dream that I did not immediately realize was a dream when i woke up. No one should ever have that happen.

Originally posted by blazenresearcher
To our external senses, it appears we are separate from each other, the earth and the universe. Go beyond the sensations, by way of the mind or silence thereof, and know that everything is one.

The interesting thing about the Law of One is that it stipulates We are all One with the Universe only Once, the other Ones are then specifically relative to the observer.

Ribbit