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The NYPD lied.

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posted on Dec, 25 2011 @ 11:50 AM
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Originally posted by samkent
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We went to war over this stuff. People are still dying, so it's kind of important.


Mislabeling an item in an exhibit is not that important.
You have been shown to be wrong. Accept it graciously lest people form an unfavorable opinion of you and your beliefs.
Let it go.


It is very important when the next generation are being told fires were so intense they melted concrete.

The police lied about "intense fires". Aside from being outraged that we're still killing people over the 911 lie, everyone should be outraged that the police are in on it.




posted on Dec, 25 2011 @ 05:17 PM
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posted on Dec, 25 2011 @ 06:00 PM
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posted on Dec, 26 2011 @ 04:51 PM
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The police fabricated a story about "fires so intense the concrete melted". Ever hear of not shooting the messenger?


Because so far the "messenger" has yet to prove his case, meaning the only person here spewing libel is the poster.

Also, I don't think the courts have yet finally decided whether something on the internet is libel or slander. Some are arguing that due to the immeadiacy of the internet that it is more in line with slander than printed media.



posted on Dec, 26 2011 @ 07:03 PM
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Originally posted by hooper
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The police fabricated a story about "fires so intense the concrete melted". Ever hear of not shooting the messenger?


Because so far the "messenger" has yet to prove his case, meaning the only person here spewing libel is the poster.

Also, I don't think the courts have yet finally decided whether something on the internet is libel or slander. Some are arguing that due to the immeadiacy of the internet that it is more in line with slander than printed media.




So tell me, why would the fires in WTC6 be so hot they melted concrete? Is that the kind of mistake that any police department has ever made before? I'm betting the German police who investigated the Reichstag fire never thought of that one, huh?



posted on Dec, 27 2011 @ 07:19 AM
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So tell me, why would the fires in WTC6 be so hot they melted concrete?

Don't care.

Is that the kind of mistake that any police department has ever made before?

So you admit you are lying?

I'm betting the German police who investigated the Reichstag fire never thought of that one, huh?

No, but you thought of the nazis right away.

Again, you stated that the "NYPD lied" so it is beholden on YOU to prove your case. First, you must PROVE what they said was false. Then you must PROVE that the entirety of the NYPD knew it was false. And then you must PROVE that the entire NYPD, knowing it was false, purposely said something other than the truth in order to materially decieve. Good luck!



posted on Dec, 27 2011 @ 07:36 AM
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Since septic knows that he cannot possibly know what was in the minds of the NYPD.

We must conclude that septic is intentionally lying to us.

As opposed to be simply mistaken.



posted on Dec, 27 2011 @ 12:11 PM
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Originally posted by samkent
Since septic knows that he cannot possibly know what was in the minds of the NYPD.

We must conclude that septic is intentionally lying to us.

As opposed to be simply mistaken.


What are you looking for here...I guess you're looking for the "technical win"? Waiting for me to acknowledge how difficult it would be to prove someone lied? Okay, done. I can't prove what the police were thinking...I guess my whole argument is crap then. Shoot, you guys are too shrewd for me.

Now that I've acknowledged your obvious superiority, why would the police fabricate such a ridiculous story and then create a museum exhibit? Is it incompetence or is it to imply fires were so intense they melted concrete?

I take it you like to hang your hat on the incompetence angle.



posted on Dec, 27 2011 @ 02:10 PM
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Originally posted by septic

I take it you like to hang your hat on the incompetence angle.


I've met quite a lot of policemen and I've met quite a lot of Americans, and incompetence would certainly be the term I'd jump to first. Certainly in front of "every single one of them involved in a silent plot to take over the world".



posted on Dec, 27 2011 @ 02:12 PM
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Originally posted by TrickoftheShade

Originally posted by septic

I take it you like to hang your hat on the incompetence angle.


I've met quite a lot of policemen and I've met quite a lot of Americans, and incompetence would certainly be the term I'd jump to first. Certainly in front of "every single one of them involved in a silent plot to take over the world".


Okay, so since the police are so incompetent as to not only spread such a ridiculous story, but actually build a museum exhibit to support it, it should be fair to say they are too incompetent to be trusted.


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posted on Dec, 27 2011 @ 05:55 PM
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Some people just cant let go of their comfy fuzzy image of 911 can they?

I doubt one person in a 100 doesnt think the whole thing was set up in the uk!Its even written about in the papers.



posted on Dec, 27 2011 @ 06:11 PM
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Originally posted by paperface
Some people just cant let go of their comfy fuzzy image of 911 can they?


It's like I crapped on their birthday cake or something, for sure.




I doubt one person in a 100 doesnt think the whole thing was set up in the uk!Its even written about in the papers.


Call me crazy (get in line), but aren't most of the worlds' ills set up in the UK?



posted on Dec, 27 2011 @ 06:29 PM
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Originally posted by bluemooone2

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The NYPD did an amazing job that day and afterwards.


A fine job spreading ridiculous lies. What else did they lie about?

Quite a bit, it seems.

False Fronts For A False Flag


Please dont get me wrong here when I say the NYPD im referring more to the blue shirt ones.I would never trust anyone in the NYPD wearing a white one.
That said , you may actually want to listen to that interview that I linked .
It may hold a few facts that you have never heard before.


Okay...so I listened to much of the radio broadcast and I get what you're saying about the blue shirts vs white shirts. When I refer to the NYPD, I am not assuming everyone in the department is corrupt, and as your link showed, most of them were just doing their jobs as usual, and none of them ever considered the towers would collapse...and some didn't even believe it when they were told tower one collapsed.

Thanks for the link.



posted on Dec, 28 2011 @ 07:40 AM
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....most of them were just doing their jobs as usual, and none of them ever considered the towers would collapse...


You seem to have this tendancy to make broad sweeping assumptions, I think hoping no one will challenge them and they will evolve somehow or another into "facts". How do you know that NO ONE on the NYPD ever considered the possibility that the towers would collapse?



posted on Dec, 28 2011 @ 09:53 AM
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Originally posted by hooper
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....most of them were just doing their jobs as usual, and none of them ever considered the towers would collapse...


You seem to have this tendancy to make broad sweeping assumptions, I think hoping no one will challenge them and they will evolve somehow or another into "facts". How do you know that NO ONE on the NYPD ever considered the possibility that the towers would collapse?


I listened to the radio broadcast and repeated what was said.

Since the police lied, or at best were horribly incompetent, should any of their evidence be considered valid?



posted on Dec, 28 2011 @ 10:40 AM
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I listened to the radio broadcast and repeated what was said.

No you didn't. You stated that no one in the NYPD thought the building would collapse. So unless you interviewed everyone in the NYPD on 9/11/2001 then you are lying. There was no mention of a radio broadcast.

Since the police lied, or at best were horribly incompetent, should any of their evidence be considered valid?

You still haven't proved either statement - and have been caught lying, so I think I'll accept the word of the person who presented the placard at the memorial over something you wrote on the internet.



posted on Dec, 28 2011 @ 10:47 AM
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Originally posted by hooper
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I listened to the radio broadcast and repeated what was said.

No you didn't. You stated that no one in the NYPD thought the building would collapse. So unless you interviewed everyone in the NYPD on 9/11/2001 then you are lying. There was no mention of a radio broadcast.

Since the police lied, or at best were horribly incompetent, should any of their evidence be considered valid?

You still haven't proved either statement - and have been caught lying, so I think I'll accept the word of the person who presented the placard at the memorial over something you wrote on the internet.




Thanks for stopping by.



posted on Dec, 28 2011 @ 04:30 PM
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Since the police are spreading such a ridiculous story, should not the rest of their evidence be considered suspect?



posted on Dec, 28 2011 @ 11:14 PM
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You can trust these guys, they're cops.



They say that there is no honor amongst theives, doesn’t seem to be much amongst cops either…

A former NYPD narcotics detective snared in a corruption scandal testified it was common practice to fabricate drug charges against innocent people to meet arrest quotas.

The bombshell testimony from Stephen Anderson is the first public account of the twisted culture behind the false arrests in the Brooklyn South and Queens narc squads, which led to the arrests of eight cops and a massive shakeup.

Anderson, testifying under a cooperation agreement with prosecutors, was busted for planting coc aine, a practice known as “flaking,” on four men in a Queens bar in 2008 to help out fellow cop Henry Tavarez, whose buy-and-bust activity had been low.

“Tavarez was … was worried about getting sent back [to patrol] and, you know, the supervisors getting on his case,” he recounted at the corruption trial of Brooklyn South narcotics Detective Jason Arbeeny.

“I had decided to give him [Tavarez] the drugs to help him out so that he could say he had a buy,” Anderson testified last week in Brooklyn Supreme Court.

Not only did he speak about this specific incident, Anderson went on to throw other supervisors and higher-ups under the speeding bus as well.

Anderson worked in the Queens and Brooklyn South narcotics squads and was called to the stand at Arbeeny’s bench trial to show the illegal conduct wasn’t limited to a single squad.

“Did you observe with some frequency this … practice which is taking someone who was seemingly not guilty of a crime and laying the drugs on them?” Justice Gustin Reichbach asked Anderson.

“Yes, multiple times,” he replied.

The judge pressed Anderson on whether he ever gave a thought to the damage he was inflicting on the innocent.

“It was something I was seeing a lot of, whether it was from supervisors or undercovers and even investigators,” he said.

“It’s almost like you have no emotion with it, that they attach the bodies to it, they’re going to be out of jail tomorrow anyway; nothing is going to happen to them anyway.”

Is there any redeeming quality to this guy dropping dime on his former fellow officers or is he just a rat, snitch, stool pigeon??


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posted on Dec, 29 2011 @ 03:08 AM
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Originally posted by septic

Call me crazy (get in line), but aren't most of the worlds' ills set up in the UK?


The City of London is a separate little state where many of the world's ills are begun by the fiat currency/fractional reserve banking clowns. The U.K. has been under a massive propaganda attack for many years. We aren't what you think we are.



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