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Well it's already heating up in Iraq

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posted on Dec, 19 2011 @ 04:57 AM
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Such timing...

As U.S. troops exit, Iraq's political crisis deepens

Iraq's political crisis deepened Sunday as Prime Minister Nouri al Maliki ordered the country's vice president off a plane and had him held temporarily at Baghdad airport, on suspicion that members of his security detail took part in a string of assassinations.

The confrontation between the prime minister, a Shiite Muslim, and Vice President Tariq al Hashimi, a Sunni, took the spotlight off of what could have been a day of Iraqi unity and celebration as the last American tanks and troops rolled south to Kuwait, ending the nearly nine-year U.S. military presence.

In Baghdad's Green Zone, the center of the U.S. occupation after following the 2003 invasion, the tanks, personnel carriers and hundreds of troops that took up positions this weekend were Iraqi, not American. But their intimidating presence symbolized the sudden political crisis as well as the shift in power.

Maliki's move against Hashimi followed the arrest of at least six members of the vice president's security detail in the past two weeks, Interior Ministry officials said. On Friday, Maliki told members of his ruling multiparty alliance that several of the guards had confessed involvement in the assassinations of Shiite politicians over the past two years, according to a participant at the session. Hashimi's security detail is said to number 300.

Great people you got there... hell when politicians (and vice president of all people) hire mercenaries to assassinate other politicians, this is a good start... NOT... anyway they are learning the American way of democracy...


But really they should be more subtle, like fake heart attacks, hangings, car ``accidents``, drug ``overdose``, plane ``having an accident``... stuff like that. They are trying to do it the American way, but they are not experts at it yet.

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posted on Dec, 19 2011 @ 05:06 AM
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America got what they wanted, resources which are going to be traded in dollars, as well as many big contracts that went to American firms. I'm sure as soon as the next 'dictator' (who they helped in power) decides that they want to go their own way, America and its little bum sniff's will be going back there re-install democracy. . but for now, private military will be keeping a close tabs on all of Americas interests.

kill your own citizens your a dictator. Kill other countries citizens and your a democracy. . America's got most of the masses so brain washed they don't know their bum piles from mouth ulcers



posted on Dec, 19 2011 @ 05:16 AM
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The only thing we won was a bit of strategic thinking on the part of the Jihadis. They finally figured out that if they just played possum for an extended period and stopped annoying the American commanders, we'd get bored...declare victory and leave so they could return to their previously scheduled civil war.

No one much liked us getting in the middle of it anyway, now they can have it in private.



posted on Dec, 19 2011 @ 06:05 AM
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We need to start calling "that word" the D-word. It is used to perpetuate a lie.

There ain't a stinkin' democracy here. We have a plutocracy or despotism here in the US, and that's what will spread! Money wants more money.

Use any other word, please....fascism, communism, autocracy...but not the d-word! That's a lie!



posted on Dec, 19 2011 @ 06:29 AM
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Originally posted by daynight42

Use any other word, please....fascism, communism, autocracy...but not the d-word! That's a lie!



The D-word ... it rhimes with D-day ...



posted on Dec, 19 2011 @ 06:51 AM
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Man, I am all for wiping out the main cities of middle east.
Its like they're all a bunch of eff'n children who can only play nice when mom and dad(USA) are around. As soon as mom and dad look away the kids start to tear S*** up and name-call(saber rattling) again.



posted on Dec, 19 2011 @ 07:32 AM
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Originally posted by Gwampo
Man, I am all for wiping out the main cities of middle east.
Its like they're all a bunch of eff'n children who can only play nice when mom and dad(USA) are around. As soon as mom and dad look away the kids start to tear S*** up and name-call(saber rattling) again.


And you feel the need to get involved in a nations behavior, because..? Wait let me answer that one for you, You believe that its acceptable to invade a country, kill their people and dictate how they live because you've been brainwashed into justifying murder, invasion of a country & theft of its resources, by believing the propaganda that they're morally and or racially inferior.

Until the actions of the said country is effecting you, you're friends and family, directly - id be more concerned about how your own country is fking you over. . let alone another country.



posted on Dec, 19 2011 @ 07:40 AM
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Awesome.

Let the Mohammedans return their barbaric roots while we extract the resources needed to fuel our civilization. Stupid muslims trapped in an idiotic system of social control don't need the bounty of their land so we will take it from them.

GITMO. It is a policy, not a place.



posted on Dec, 19 2011 @ 07:45 AM
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The culture in which they live (Islam) is one of usurpation, deception, and violence. It is a brutish existence. Were it not for the billions pumped into their economies by the West, they would be no better than their 7th Century idol, Mohammed.

Flattening Mecca should be job one.


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posted on Dec, 19 2011 @ 07:46 AM
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Originally posted by mike_trivisonno
Awesome.
Let the Mohammedans return their barbaric roots while we extract the resources needed to fuel our civilization. Stupid muslims trapped in an idiotic system of social control don't need the bounty of their land so we will take it from them.
GITMO. It is a policy, not a place.
Just wondering if you'll be quite so glib when the Chinese decide the same about 'barbaric Westerners' who don't deserve the the bounty of their land. All you've stated is 'might makes right'.



posted on Dec, 19 2011 @ 07:56 AM
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China's western regions have suffered under Jihad for centuries. There is no love of the muslims in the hearts of the Chinese who have seen their land taken in the name of Dar al-Islam.

If anything, the Chinese, culturally superior in every way to Islamic culture, are probably quietly working to see the influence of the muslims reduced. Especially in the muslim-occupied western regions of China.


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posted on Dec, 19 2011 @ 08:37 AM
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Originally posted by mike_trivisonno
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China's western regions have suffered under Jihad for centuries. There is no love of the muslims in the hearts of the Chinese who have seen their land taken in the name of Dar al-Islam.

If anything, the Chinese, culturally superior in every way to Islamic culture, are probably quietly working to see the influence of the muslims reduced. Especially in the muslim-occupied western regions of China.

You miss my point...I'm saying when others (Chinese?...you pick the bad guy) adopt the concept of 'manifest destiny', and start eyeballing American resources. Will their might justify their right? Or will they simply call in their T-notes?



posted on Dec, 19 2011 @ 08:57 AM
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Yep, kind of like when we pulled out of Vietnam and the VC hunted down and killed the Montagnard that helped us.

Iraq will fall into chaos next year.
A sad thing really.



posted on Dec, 19 2011 @ 09:24 AM
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Although I am sure that the US has received some special consideration, where contracts are involved, China seems to have done pretty well in the dividing up of contracts.

along with some others... America DID NOT go to war for oil..

www.time.com...



posted on Dec, 19 2011 @ 10:07 AM
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Originally posted by MobiusUnleashed
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Although I am sure that the US has received some special consideration, where contracts are involved, China seems to have done pretty well in the dividing up of contracts.

along with some others... America DID NOT go to war for oil..

Seems to me that there was a little pocket change passed around for the privilege of breaking it and putting it back together again (sort of). I'm not sure we're talking altruism here...
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posted on Dec, 19 2011 @ 10:30 AM
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Originally posted by macman
Yep, kind of like when we pulled out of Vietnam and the VC hunted down and killed the Montagnard that helped us.

Iraq will fall into chaos next year.
A sad thing really.


Of course it will.

It is important to remember the west were never invited there. The vast majority of the Iraqis didn't want us there. They never wanted our "democracy" or our "freedom".

They saw the west's unbelievable firepower and strength when we invaded, and decided, for their own safety, that is was a good idea to pretend to like us.

Now we are pulling out, they are going to want their country back.



posted on Dec, 19 2011 @ 10:32 AM
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Originally posted by NuclearPaul

Originally posted by macman
Yep, kind of like when we pulled out of Vietnam and the VC hunted down and killed the Montagnard that helped us.

Iraq will fall into chaos next year.
A sad thing really.


Of course it will.

It is important to remember the west were never invited there. The vast majority of the Iraqis didn't want us there. They never wanted our "democracy" or our "freedom".

They saw the west's unbelievable firepower and strength when we invaded, and decided, for their own safety, that is was a good idea to pretend to like us.

Now we are pulling out, they are going to want their country back.


So the vast majority of Iraqis loved Saddam?
Uh, ok then.

Now, don't get the idea that I want our Military there, as their role is War, not nation building or rebuilding.



posted on Dec, 19 2011 @ 10:36 AM
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Originally posted by macman
So the vast majority of Iraqis loved Saddam?
Uh, ok then.


Who said that?

Just because they didn't like Saddam doesn't mean they loved the USA, does it?



posted on Dec, 19 2011 @ 10:41 AM
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Originally posted by NuclearPaul

Originally posted by macman
So the vast majority of Iraqis loved Saddam?
Uh, ok then.


Who said that?

Just because they didn't like Saddam doesn't mean they loved the USA, does it?



Originally posted by NuclearPaul


It is important to remember the west were never invited there. The vast majority of the Iraqis didn't want us there. They never wanted our "democracy" or our "freedom".



So, who should have done this?



posted on Dec, 19 2011 @ 11:00 AM
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6 Months and everybody will long for the good old days of Sadam. Oh well a lot of rich Americans made a bunch of wor money




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